8800M GTX versus 8800 GTX

What will be the difference between the new 8800M GTX and the 8800 GTX besides the fact that the 8800M GTX is for notebooks. I know they should be nearly identical but would there be some performance hit by making the 8800 GTX available for notebooks? I would like to know if reading current benchmarks for the 8800 GTX would accurately depict what the 8800M GTX is going to perform like.

Thanks

 

8800M GTX is based on G92 (like 8800GT) but with less stream processors (96 vs 112), so it's the same performance as a 8800 GTS (G80 based)

 

the desktop cards are always more powerful than their notebook counterparts

 

The 8800M-GTX is not going to be nearly as powerful as the desktop version. As noted it should have similar performance to the current 8800GTS.

 

Man that blows. I read that there was a big difference between the 8800 GTX and the 8800 GTS. I guess it will be the same between the 8800M GTX and the 8800 GTX. As long as it can completely outperform the 7950 GTX then I am happy since I just canceled my NP9261 with a single 7950 GTX so that I could get the NP9262 with the 8800 GTX

 

You're setting your standards too high . . . this is a laptop computer, not a desktop. It is extremely impressive that Nvidia was able to fit something that powerful in a laptop in the first place. If you call Crysis at 1600x1200 with high settings disappointing then . . . *shrug*

 

Yeah it will outperform it , and its futureproof...

 

No I will still be satisfied with 8800m GTX but yeah I did set my standards a little too high. I've never personally seen crysis being played at all aside from low quality video clips so i should still be easily impressed. I'm upgrading from a 4 year old desktop with a radeon 9800 pro and 512 mb of ram to Sager NP9262. Should be a big pretty big difference.

I never called crysis disappointing at 1600x1200. If you do a search you find that nowhere did a mention anything about crysis aside from right now.

Anyways, thanks for the help guys

 

Futureproof for about one or two months

 

The 8800GTX has 128 stream processors. It is the 8800 GT that has 112 stream processors. As said the 8800M GTX is essentially a desktop 8800GTS but with a 256 bit bus instead of a 320 bit bus and the desktop 8800GTX uses a 384 bit bus.

Now don´t expect to play Crysis with this laptop card in all High in Vista at 1600x1200.

 

Big difference but still a very powerful card. Laptop counterparts are always weaker.

8800M GTX has a 256bit bus with 512MB DDR3 memory and 96 stream processors. Based on Nvidia's benchmarks, it's very comparable to one of the desktop 8800 GTSs. Don't worry though, it will rip through most games currently out now.

 

Okay let me lay it out there for the new gaming notebook folks:

It has been recent since high-end gaming cards have hit the mobile market.

So the desktop VS mobile card question has appeared many times.

Rule of Thumb for performance difference:
... a GTX mobile card is near/equivalent to the desktop version GT...

Examples:
- 7800 Go GTX ~ 7800 GT
- 7900 Go GTX ~ 7900 GT
- 7950 Go GTX ~ 7950 GT
- 8800M GTX ~ 8800 GT

.... get the picture?

 

Yeah it is a very powerful card and it will rip through current games really nicely at 1920x1200 But I agree it would have been nice to see it at least have 112 stream processors

My 8800GTX desktop is such a powerful card, I mean it is amazing how powerful it is and I think laptop gamers will be amazed at how powerful the 8800m GTX will be too. I am both a laptop gamer and a desktop gamer by the way

Gophn you should correct the 8800M GTX -> 8800GT that isn´t true. The 8800GT has 112 stream processors and higher clocks. As I said the 8800M GTX is a 8800 GTS desktop.

 

I don't think even an 8800M GTX in SLI will 'rip through' Crysis. (At least not on high, those shadows are killer on my 7950's)

 

The 8800m gtx is slower than the 8800GT because it have fewer shaders than the desktop, also i think the 8800gt should be called 8850gt or 8900gt. Also previous desktop cards didn't have a gts version. So the 8800m gtx is equivalent to the g80 8800gts.

 

The performance is almost the same, but the 8800m gtx runs cooler as it has a 65nm core.

 

Poor 8700 GT. Shortest life-span eva?

 

Haha :laugh:

 

@RobHague
It's not funny! I'm upgrading without a second thought. Theses 8700m's have been the biggest dissapointment of the whole system. And they should have been the core of it. Still hope to see a breakthrough in the "soon to be released" Dell drivers... But uh, I'm not holding my breath!

 

I said "near" equivalent... in both specs and architecture.

The desktop 8800GT and mobile 8800M GTX has the 65nm die-shrink & using G92.

The desktop 8800GTS is using an older G80.

 

Not anymore - the G92 GTS is now out, and it can keep up with the 8800Ultra for the most part, until you turn on AA.

 

I've noticed in many different areas that the rough magical number for comparing notebook to desktop power is 2/3. That is, notebook components are about 2/3 as powerful as their respectively named desktop components.

This is a rough number, and there are many exceptions, but it does give you a general idea of where things stand.

 

In this case, I doubt it (until the G92 version of the desktop GTX comes out, at least) since the G92 core is such a vast improvement over G80. I am anticipating that the 8800M GTX will end up beating the G80 GTS, and actually come fairly close to the G80 GTX.

 

That is wishful thinking. Judging from what I`ve seen on a 640 GTS and benchmarks on the Rock with the 8800M GTX, I`d say they are brothers in performance.
But yes,the 8800M GTX will run cooler and quieter,provided there is a strong enough fan for in the laptop. I know the clevo m570(1)RU has a pretty powerful fan, so my statemen should be accurate.
As for the title comparisson, I`d say a rough 80% of the desktop 8800 GTX...

 

Fairly close, still the core doesn´t do much, but shaders does. Desktop 8800GTX and Ultra has 32 more shader processors than the 8800M GTX and a 384 bit compared to the 256 bit bus that is quite a difference.

 

Yeah but look at the new revision of the gt. It has a 256 bit bus and it performs very close to the gtx.

 

Oh man this is getting confusing. The reason I am wondering is because I am trying to get an idea of how the 8800m GTX will perform on games like oblivion. It's the most recent game I have and after this purchase I won't have any more money left to buy a more recent game. I was just trying to look at current benchmarks for the 8800 GTS to see if that is a pretty good representation of how my 8800m GTX will perform. So my only concern is whether this should give me a good idea or not.

Thanks again guys

 

So the 2/3 rule applies to most laptop hardware (in this case the 8800m GTX) but what about the sager NP9262's other hardware components? I think I read that it was a desktop processor and it has desktop ram so does that mean my dual 3.0 GHz processors I ordered along with the 2 gigs 800 MHz ram is going to be slightly crappier than than a desktop processor and RAM or is this really a desktop CPU and RAM in the NP0262? Getting a little worried now.

 

well why dont we wait till it comes out....these speculation threads are useless and spread false info.

 

No your other components are fine. I've seen the PCMark and Sysmark for a similarly equipped D901C vs a desktop with the same components and for the most part they are on par. Notebook GFX cards are always behind their desktop counterparts.

The 8800M GTX will still be the MOST POWERFUL LAPTOP GFX card. (For a while anyhow) If the life cycle is the same as the 7950GTX, it will be a good stretch.