8800M GTX will be MXM-II

I just called Alienware tech support to ask if the new 8800M GTX will be
MXM-II or MXM-III (lol) And he immediately said MXM-II, he said the new laptops won't be released til next YEAR LOL, i asked him about the november 19th release date, he said that when they get the new video cards in they have to test things to get it right make sure theres' no problems etc. etc.

But anyways, he did sound like he knew what he was talking about, and I'm so glad to hear that it's MXM-II, as that means my ACER 5920 Will already be able to take one of these babies in... CANT WAIT!

 

that would mean my M570U is also capable of using that gpu??

 

NO! It means absolutely nothing. This GPU might require a mainboard revision,one which would be costly.Also, I don't buy that alienware BS. I am waiting till the 19th to see the full story.

 

MXM-II? Thats actually bad to hear. I would prefer MXM-III and then in a 17" DTR.

 

mxmII...wow, that is hard to believe but i guess we'll have to wait and see. by 'next year' im guessing jan-early feb....

 

oh yeah forgot to add, i asked if the 17" laptops will also be MXM-II , he said yes.

 

Everyone will find out if it's false information or not next Monday. I personally think the rep is really good at sounding convincing, I agree with eleron and think the new cards might not fit an old format with their new design.

 

I agreee with Harleyquin07. Although the card may fit within the MXM-II specs, the actual interface itself might be altered in such a way as to preclude usage of an 8800m in an MXM-II slot. Then again, maybe it will. It would definately help adoption of the interface.

 

C90 Ftw!!!!

 

Does that mean that it's significantly better than the 7950?

Like what's the performance boost % to be expected?

 

Why on earth would they go through the trouble to make it MXM-II if it were not going to be able to be used by MXM-II slots?

 

as long as it performs better than 7950sli im gettin it...

 

I Agree. Now I only need gentech to ship it back to me

 

If there were a limiting factor to the interface, this might occur. Then again, I'm not sure MXM standards involve throughput specifications and I assume they all are based on 16X PCI-E connections, so I doubt there will be compatibility issues. I was just considering the possibility.

 

i think that there are way to many people who would rather upgrade rather than buy an entire system, and obviously nvidia would want to make the most money so it probably will be able to fit in current mxm-II.

 

Please give us the tech support number you called. The best thing to do here is to call multiple times and try to get some consistency on the answers. I need the exact number you called and the numbers you used to get patched through to the dept/area you did. If we get enough of the same answer that gives a much better picture of the truth.

Also, I think its a good idea to make the card MXM-II. I feel that with the constant shrinking of dies on both CPU parts and GPU parts, that using the SAME slot/socket for parts is good. In other words, shrink the parts that go into the slots and DONT keep coming up with new slots. I great example of this is the Intel socket 775. Its been around for a good long time and brought forth many good cpus. Another example is PCI-E. By doing this you dont cause the consumer to continue to upgrade everytime the next chip/gpu comes out. By using the MXM-II slot for newer gpus it makes it easier for notebook manufacturers to build their systems around a certain core of sockets/slots. It also ensures to not alienate early adopters of new breeds of notebooks (C90S customizeable notebook). Personally, I would have felt very betrayed by Nvidia if they didnt come out with more MXM-II cards.

Bottom line: Why create new sockets/slots when you can just make the parts that go into those sockets/slots more effecient? Over the last 2 years efficency has been the force behind many current products and or projects. I like the way its going in the technology world as well as the automotive scene. The world seems to be getting away from the "bigger and better" ideology and moving toward the "smaller and better".

One question however....when will the enthusiast category desktop gpus become smaller? I though the technology scene was going to rip nvidia a new one when I saw the dimensions on the 8800 GTX last year. ATi has some large cards as well though....

 

Maybe Alienware wait until santarosa refreash

 

I agree. Intel has already released details that their next lines of Dual Core CPU's (what was the code name again? I think it started with a "N" if I'm not mistaken) will still utilize the current Core 2 Duo sockets, which means that in time, I'll be able to upgrade my lappy (assuming I even want to... I'm pretty sure the 8600M GT would be a piece of crap by then) to the newer CPU's.

It's a freakin' shame Dell won't adopt the MXM standards (well, they do... but they modify it to suite their proprietary needs...).

 

No comment about MXM-II, but how much will it cost? Roughly?

Will it be any chance cheaper than 8600M GT? (Like when 8800GT release, the price is surprisingly lower than even GTS which is relatively weak.)

 

If it is MXM-II, then it's stupid why they are only releasing that and not any bigger MXM-III or IV brother. I bought a 17" for a reason, y'know. I don't see the point in it anymore if the fastest video card to date as of next Monday is going to be able to fit in small laptops. Take advantage of that extra space for us and make it faster... at least OC it and make more room for cooling or something.

 

Ballpark estimate puts it around 500-600 bucks. It costs 400 to upgrade from a SLI 8600M GT on the Alienware M15X to a 8800GTX... So do the math .

 

hmm according to this site, it'll be mxm-III
http://www.gadgetizer.com/2007/10/29/geforce-8800m-gtx-video-card/

 

Hmm... not sure. Very dated article compared to all the recent buzz.

 

That is a LOT. Don't think i will be able to afford it...

 

This does seem to be accurate, but then again this is Alienware.

I'm crossing my fingers in hoping that it's more like 400-500.

 

could the dell vostro 8600m gt be upgraded with this card?

 

Only if Dell offer it as a spare part upgrade. Chances of that happening are close to zero though. Dell uses a proprietary format so no alternatives other than to hope they release a version compatible with Vostros and Inspirons.

 

I'm pretty sure it's going to be MXM III. The TDP is 35 W, after doing all the reading, exactly as the 8700M GT. Which is MXM III, as we all know.

It seems unbelieveble to me that it runs 10 W less than the 7950GTX and way better, according to specs. Room for OCing,definitely

 

I imagine there will be a lower end version of the 8800m thats MXM-II, fit down into the 25w limit of MXM II, maybe called the GT, or GS, or whatnot, but indeed, we got specs at one point that are probobly correct saying the 8800m GTX is 35w, which would require MXM-III... Quite literaly. Although prehaps theyll do something akin to the armia special. *Shrugs* the 19th shal reveal some, and the following days probobly more.

 

CALLED 1-866-287-6727, first, chose option 4, then chose option 5 (technical support), then chose option 2 (notebooks).

Just called again today to see if I'd get the same info, he made me wait about 5 minutes on the line, spoke with Kevin, he didn't know... First time spoke with TOM he told me it was MXM-II, if anyone else wants to give it a shot and post what they find, it'd definately be helpful.

 

version of what compatible with the vostros? bios ? or the vid card? im getting the idea imma fuxed on this t.t

 

I really do doubt this card will be MXM-II, but I hope it is or atleast they release a GT version which is able to be put into MXM-II PC's like my C90s

 

alienware has already said this will be mxm-II and c90 is a very popular barebone for many manufacturers so i'm sure you'll be able to upgrade. The might actually have a mxm-III as well for the 17 notebooks...we'll just have to wait until next week i think.

 

They make the 8800m a MXM type 2 and I'd be fitting it in my Acer 5920 once Asus or whoever starts producing it. Retailers in my country don't sell MXM cards, so I'd have to ship it over here, but meh, It's going to be worth it

But that's assuming they do make it into a MXM type 2, which is seemingly strange to do so

 

Just so everyone knows, you can put any lower mxm card in a higher version (Clevo's strange MXMIV excepted).
So the people with 17in MXMIII lappys needent worry about not being able to use it even if it is II (although it may require some minor heatsink modifications to get everything to jive right, but you normally have to do that anyway since some capacitor or other sticks up too high)
For more info read up http://www.mxm-upgrade.com here

 

now...they need to make an MXM-Adapter card for PC's so all those C90 8600gt's don't go to waste...and while were at it, release a Intel 950 or 3100 MXM so we can squeeze 30min more out of a C90 when on the road...

 

Well I don't think you are going to be going on the road at all with an 8800, with conroe the battery life will really evaporate

 

The card slot version to be exact. It's not the bios, it's a hardware issue since Dell uses a different design of slot for its notebook video cards. Don't get your hopes up.

 

There's no way the 8800M-GTX whose specs have been leaked is MXM-II, it's simply not happening. For one thing, if it was, then there would be no reason to make an MXM-III 15.4" notebook (the 15x).

 

the 8800m gtx is 35w so it's not possible that it's mxm 2. it's mxm 3. end of story.

 

WoooW great news

I will upgrade mine as soon as it is released

By the way

Do you think a used 8600m-GT can be sold??!!

 

Can you upgrade your videocard??
(In that acer of your's ?)

 

What do you mean??!

Mine is MXM2

WTF

OOps some site said it is an MXM type 3

 

I got a 8600M GT DDR3 (In my Asus G1S) so if 8800M is MXMII i can upgrade to it?

 

I dont believe G1s use MXMII. I know Compal IFL90 do though.

 

Not a chance. Only the C90 models have upgradeable graphics cards if I remember correctly.

 

Harleyquin is correct, sorry.

 

I'm almost certain that the 8800M GTX is going to be MXM-III, based on the 35W TDP. If it really was MXM-II, you'd think a lot more manufacturers (Acer, Compal, Asus) would have jumped on it and put into their respective MXM-II notebooks......

 

can more people please call Alienware Tech Support and ask if it will be MXM-II and post results here:
CALL 1-866-287-6727, first, chose option 4, then chose option 5 (technical support), then chose option 2 (notebooks). Then ask if 8800m-GTX will be MXM-II. I've spoken with Tom (said it was MXM-II) and Kevin (didn't know.)

 

seriously, stop posting this. it's false. it's not mxm 2. you hopefulls are getting your hopes up for nothing. it's already been stated why it's mxm 3 and this had been known for some time now.

case closed.