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    8800MGTX or 8700MGT ???

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by NIXZ, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. NIXZ

    NIXZ Notebook Enthusiast

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    I 've seen a lot of benchmarks about the 8800MGTX and the 8700MGT
    but never seen comments from people who have one.

    An 8700MGT is 25% faster than an 8600MGT, the Diagram goes like this:

    • Performance
    • 1[---->_____]
    • 2[----->____]
    • 3[---------->]
      (1=8600MGT, 2=8700MGT, 3=8800MGTX)
    Anyone who has an 8700MGT or an 8800MGTX plz post their actual performance
    in Crysis or any other game...
     
  2. lunateck

    lunateck Bananaed

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    You dun even need to see the benchies to know the difference of a 8700M and the 8800M.

    8700M is just an overclocked 8600M.
    and the 8800M is totally a different beast.

    I think you better go to the gaming forum.
     
  3. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Look at the many 8800M GTX reviews, there are comparisons in there for benchmarks.
     
  4. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Crysis;
    8700m GT: Medium
    8800m GTX: High

    Medium to high is a *huge* step up in crysis
     
  5. Zee_Ukrainian

    Zee_Ukrainian Notebook Evangelist

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    I have an 8700M GT and it's a good card, but get the 8800M GTX with no questons asked.

    Crysis on 8700M GT with my specs:

    Medium settings @ 1680 X 1050 res. = 15 fps. Fun, but Crysis is nothing fancy w/o high settings.
     
  6. Tippey764

    Tippey764 Notebook Deity

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    id go for the 8800m gtx even a 8800m gts is better by far then the 8700m gt
     
  7. NIXZ

    NIXZ Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ιsn't that much +500$ to get the 8800MGTX ???
    I mean for 15fps i dont know how an 8800MGTX will perform in crysis
    well if i finally buy the 8700MGT and run Crysis in High details
    no AA 1400x900 what will be the frame rate???
     
  8. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    in crysis, i had 30+fps during heavy gun fight.
    1680x1050, all high, 2xAA
     
  9. littledonny

    littledonny Notebook Guru

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    does not compute
     
  10. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    what? -----------
     
  11. Zee_Ukrainian

    Zee_Ukrainian Notebook Evangelist

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    I didn't have a problem running Crysis on high using 1200 res no AA, but at 1400, it's still going to be low in FPS. If you can afford an 8800, I highly suggest getting it.
     
  12. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    The 8800M GTX is better than ever 8700M GT SLI , that says it all.
     
  13. kind3r

    kind3r Notebook Consultant

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    I had a Toshiba X200 with a 8700 and I had to sell it because I was very disappointed. I bought instead a Rock (Clevo M570RU) with a 8800GTX. I am very pleased with its power ... so don't even hesitate and go and buy a 8800.
     
  14. NULL

    NULL Notebook Consultant

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    if small marginal gain in FPS is not worth the money then save yourself a fortune by going w/ 15" 8600M GT. the 8700M is a weak product.
     
  15. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    who cares about crysis, honestly, why does it always have to be the main discussion when comparing gfx cards? really someone tell me why...


    the 8800m GTX is atleast twice as powerful as the 8700m GT in games the GTS is about twice as powerful, a little less. Try for the 8800m GTS if you can in the Gateway FX series, very cheap and great gaming performance.
     
  16. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

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    Be cause its the most game that stresses your GPU, if you could play @ high settings with your native res, then Technically, your GFX card will last you 2 years or so with all eye candy on, which Farcry proves my point, People who could play it decently still can play any currunt game with great eye candy at resonable FPS. thats why everyone cares about it.
     
  17. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    actually i think its so they're e-peen looks bigger, but your point works too.
     
  18. lord_shar

    lord_shar Notebook Consultant

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    I agree with the votes for the 8800m-GTX... much more powerful card compared to the 8700's. My benchmark is UT3, and I'm now able to max out all settings and hit 45-60fps no prob :)

    However, if you can wait a few months, the 9000m mobile series GPU's should offer more portability with hybrid SLI (you won't be anchored to an AC-outlet quite as much).
     
  19. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Better to have Crysis as a benchmark. UT3 doesn´t demand much at all from the GPU. Crysis is what´s counts now in the gaming benchmark. UT3 runs easily at 60 fps without a hitch. At least on 8800m GTX, probably 8800m GTS too.
     
  20. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    I can see why you guys would use it as a benchmark, but it is completely ahead of everything else ATM, and throws off what a card can really do if your just basing it on what settings it can run crysis on.
     
  21. ARom

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    I think Chaz runs Crysis @ 1280*1024 will all of the settings on high but 3 with no AA, and got a minimum of 14fps. So I think 1400*900 is pushing it.

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4060

    But personally, I wouldn't spend $500 for a GPU... But that's just me, I would rather put together a desktop with an ATi 3870/8800GT and carry it around :rolleyes:
     
  22. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    there are few things crysis had delivered to me.
    1) beautiful scenes.
    2) frustration of my 8800m.
    3) endless headspin.
     
  23. otaku

    otaku Notebook Deity

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    I have the 8700 and I would have to also agree that if you can afford it an 8800 would be worth it, seems to be twice as fast as the 8700. I couldn't afford one though hell I pushed my budget getting what I did. I run crysis on medium and am fine with that. As long as I can play (and its still pretty) I do wish I had an 8800 though.
     
  24. Blemish

    Blemish Notebook Consultant

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    I have the 8700m GT and think it is a really good card that serves my purposes. That said , the 8800m is far superior. Though I wouldnt go out of my way to get it unless you're a hardcore gamer. The 8700m GT is good for casual gaming and does just about everything except run the newest games on high settings.
     
  25. Zee_Ukrainian

    Zee_Ukrainian Notebook Evangelist

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    Ooh, you better be careful with that comment. 8800 is superior, but 8700 sports a lot of games at medium-high settings at high resolutions.

    Because Crysis is ahead of its time. If you can run Crysis at high, you can practically run anything.



    Well put. :)
     
  26. spexc31

    spexc31 Notebook Evangelist

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    nirvana, why frustration from your 8800m and endless headspin?

    i was really looking forward to playing crysis on high settings at a reasonable resolution with my upcoming 8800m =\
     
  27. brainer

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    it gives desktop 8800GTX a headspin dude., well you can play it well on the 8800GTX, but you cant excpect it to be perfect.
     
  28. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Actually runs great on my desktop 8800GTX, though I only have 1440x900 as the maximum res even at stock speeds. Though I usually keep my desktop 8800GTX at 8800 Ultra + speeds.
     
  29. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    The 8700m GT actually is quite good and does a fine job in pretty much everything you toss at it.

    Those that claim its just "an overclocked 8600" are quite frankly silly.
    Maybe an "insanely overclocked 8600m GT".

    Think of it this way... the 8700m GT is basically a DESKTOP 8600 GTS in a laptop with power saving features tacked on. Why? because the 8700m will get pretty darned close to the desktop 8600 GTS clocks and still run at 69C.
    (the overclocked 8600s will be in the 80-90C+ range at a clock rate 15-20% below where the 8700m will reach EASILY)

    I am still laughing all the way to the bank with this 8700m GT and I don't have a car payment for it.

    The 8800m GTX is about 2x the raw power... but not as much so at 1440x900 or 1280x1024 and below. Keep in mind this is a laptop, and if you want to run games like crysis at insane resolutions... perhaps a desktop is a better plan.

    Is the 8800m GTX worth $500 extra?

    Not for me.


    That being said, if I were to be purchasing right this minute I'd be going for the Gateways with the 8800m GTS. They can be acquired for roughly the same price as the machines with 8700m's in them and they represent a solid step over the 8700m GT.

    As much as I like my 8700m, I don't think I'd buy one with the 8800m GTS's so low.
     
  30. brainer

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    very true about the 8700gt.. Other than that, its an OC monster really..
     
  31. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah I had two 8700m GT´s SLI in my former laptop. They overclocked like crazy :) Though the 8800m GTX overclocks really well too 125 MHz on the Core and 150MHz overclock on the Memory without any voltage modifications :)
     
  32. nhat2991

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    Well correct me if I'm wrong, Only nVIDIA chipset will have Hybrid-SLI and there aren't any for laptop atm.

    @NIXZ: The 8700M GT should be enough if you don't plan to game on high-res. However, If you have enough to go for the 8800m GTX then why not? It's more future-proof.
     
  33. lord_shar

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    The 9000m series are NVidia GPU's. Hybrid-SLI is actually present in Alienware m15x's now, but it's official name is "binary graphics."
     
  34. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    I thought they said Hybrid SLi will only work with the new 9100m IGP, and 9300GS/9400GS.