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    8800m GTS Benchmarks

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by narsnail, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    Ok so I picked up the Gateway FX laptop at BB yesterday for $1199 open box :) works great and I want people to see what it is capable of with a pretty crappy processor.

    All of the following are at native res, 1440x900( Except Crysis :\ ) on 32 bit vista, T5450 1.67GHZ, 3GB DDR2 667, 512MB 8800m GTS, 250GB 5400RPM HDD

    Edit! Adding XP for all of the games, there will be an "Edit: Xp" below the descriptions for all of the games, Call of duty 4 is only in XP btw.

    Crysis, 1024x768, DX10, All Settings On High, No AA

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    This game was suprisingly smooth, and is the best visually I have ever seen, this was not even on the highest settings. Fell to around 23 or 24 in fire fights, but was very smooth game play. Even if I set this on 1440x900, the frames dropped to around 15-20FPS, so it is the processor limitation again. Very happy with the performance though. I will add a DX9 screen later to see if the results are better, which I am hoping they are.

    World In Conflict, everything on high, physics on medium, DX9, 2AA

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    For World in Conflict it did not matter what the settings were on I got the same result, so the processor is clearly the bottleneck in this game, but it plays smoothly and only when there is 1 trillion plus explosions it gets unplayable. Not a problem though.

    Edit:XP The game ran much smoother, on Vista when running the integrated bench mark, at the nuke it dropped to 8FPS, in XP it dropped to 18. Thats a large improvement for this game.

    Bioshock, DX10, Everything maxed, all settings on

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    This game extremely smooth and looked great. The water and effects are the best I have seen yet. It dropped to 29 once when I was being shot at by about 4 splicers, but other than that it stayed around 60 inside, and dropped to about 45 when walking through the tunnels.

    Unreal Tournament 3, all sliders to 5, Intense post processing, Vsync

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    This was the smoothest game I have played yet, and very scaleable. It looked awesome, ran smooth, and is a ton of run. There was alot of tearing so I turned V Sync on, which solved the problem.

    F.E.A.R., absolute highest settings on everything, 4AA

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    Again i feel at times it is held back by the processor, but it never dropped below 30fps.


    Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, Highest settings possible, forced 2AA.

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    This game was very limited with the processor, it is not utilized for more than one core, and being an RTS it requires the processing power for all of the units on screen, etc. The lowest it dropped was to 20, which is is extremely playable on this game, even 15 is, it sat at 60 most of the time and only dropped to 20 when there were like 100 units on the screen and lots of deaths and explosions.


    Company of Heroes, Highest settings possible, 2AA, model detail bar to highest

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    This game, AGAIN, was bottlenecked by the proccesor, to be expected though. This game never faltered or stuttered, was as smooth as butter. On my quad core desktop with an equal GPU, never dropped below 45 FPS so there is alot more to pull out of this GPU.


    The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, allsliders to higest values, all options on high, large textures, HDR, no AA

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    The game was pretty smooth, but the only reason that I can think of that why the indoor FPS were lower than the outdoor FPS, was that the outdoor areas are much more GPU bound and the indoor areas are CPU bound.


    Battle for Middle Earth II: Rise of the Witch King, Ultra High Settings, forced 2AA

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    The game is capped at 30FPS, im trying to change the max to 60, havent tried yet though. Was smooth 96% of the time, small stuttering problems, and I had to crack the crap out of this game to get it to run on Vista, was sort of anoyying. Processor the bottleneck again for sure.

    Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, 8xAA Ultra High Settings

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    This game is mostly dependent on the processor and is capped at 30FPS. I am not sure why it is capped at thirty, becuase it can cause choppy game play sometimes, I witnessed this on my old P4/X700 system. This game is smooth to about 18fps, and this never dropped below 24, so it w as smooth as silk....also the 8xAA is un nessecary and im sure if I dropped it to 4xAA it would stay at 30.

    Half Life Two: Episode 2

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    This game was no problem on higest settings. Mostly the processor limitation kept the frames lower outside, with the physics and maintaining charecters and profiles for trees, etc. Was 60+ FPS inside and never dropped below about 28 FPS outside when lots of things were happening.


    Call of Duty 4, XP, 4AA, 16AF,maxed settings

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    This game was very smooth, was inside the boat it hovered around 45-70FPS, never dropped during fire fights. It also looks awesome, and i reccomend everyone to get it, best online play ever.

    I think alot of this has been done before, but I think it will help show the true potential of this laptop. Get a better processor if you can(for gaming), it is perfectly adequate for normal use but gaming its the bottleneck.
     
  2. JCMS

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    Good, We can easy see that the CPU bottlenecks, especially in World in Conflict/Oblivion.

    You got indoor FPS lower inside for Oblivion? Really strange. On my Sempron 3100+ / 8600GT 1280x1024 I'm always 20+ inside, while 10-25 outside. All the characters are really heavy on the CPU so the T5xxx has a hard time.

    You got unplayable time in WiC? Hmm, I always play it at 10-15FPS.... (Medium-high, DX10, 2xAA, 1680x1050). The only map I have problems is the grand canyon-like map, where the UI and the animations have a 5 second delay lol.
     
  3. Tommo53

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    Could you possibly bench COD4 aswell? Im interested in this Gateway, and its performance for COD4 would be very helpful, thanks.
     
  4. narsnail

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    yeah i have no idea what that was at all with oblivion, im guessing the processor cant handle all the charecters?

    for WIC i ran the built in bench mark and it only became unplayable when the nuke went off. I know when you actually play the game that drop in FPS would never be that significant, and it is perfectly fine when playing normally, that bench mark is the most stressful the game could possibly get i think.
     
  5. narsnail

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    i have it for PS3 so I will not be doing it, but I can promise you it will run on the higest settings fluently, its was said in the larger Gateway FX thread in the gaming section, not sure where but if you look throught that thread you can find the benchmarks.
     
  6. Snowsurfer

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    I have the Gateway FX and installed the T9300, World in Conflict 1440x900, High settings, High physics, DX9.
    • No overclocking avg fps 36, lowest fps 14, highest fps 77
    • Overclocked GPU avg fps 40, lowest fps 14, highest fps 92
    So the Cpu is holding back the GPU, alot of people say the CPU won't effect game play, I think this proves them wrong. Nice work narsnail, glad you got an FX, that thread was getting boring.
     
  7. narsnail

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    thanks! :) me glad too......

    yeha in this case the CPU is the complete bottleneck, especially in WIC and DOW: DC, the results bascially double with that processor upgrade.

    how much was the upgrade? where did you order from and is it noticeably faster in general activies as well as games?
     
  8. maksin01

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    Nice benchmarks narsnail! :) I notice the Shader Quality setting in Company of Heroes is set on High. I thought there should be a "Direct3 10" setting which makes it uses DX10? :rolleyes: Did you try those settings in-game? Last time I use the benchmark in CoH it gives me some nice results but when I play the missions and skirmishes I got worse results (lower average fps).
     
  9. narsnail

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    no i forgot about the DX10 :rolleyes:

    ill try it, but DX10 looks like no different in WIC and i doubt at all in this game...we will see.
     
  10. narsnail

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    edit: added battle for middle earth II, KOTOR II and HALF LIFE 2: EPISODE II coming soon.
     
  11. hydra

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    I give up. I cannot bench Crysis in Vista with out "cannot find the specified file" error at the end of the island bench. I have installed twice and removed the game folders not to read only.

    I'm using the retail game, NO problems in XP ;)
     
  12. Snowsurfer

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    $346 bought it from Xotic pc, bwhxeon had one for sell, new in the box, maybe you can make a deal with him. Here are some benchmarks http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=6
     
  13. narsnail

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    thanks, i think im going to wait till spring or summer to upgrade cuase by then prices wil have gone down or maybe something new will be out, this CPU is OK for now, but its not the fastest thing ever.
     
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    I've played it on max settings without any problems but I don't recall what the fps was.
     
  15. narsnail

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    updated, added a few more screens and added HL2: Episode 2
     
  16. maksin01

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    Any luck with DX10 Company of Heroes yet? :rolleyes: ;)
     
  17. link1313

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    oh wow ive never seen the steam engine look so good. Playing HL2:ep2 must be awesome!
     
  18. narsnail

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    I keep forgetting, but I will add a screen shot probably tomorrow, busy tonight. :)

    Yeah it really looks great doesnt it :) still havent played episode 1 yet though so I need to that first!
     
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    got mine up to 9800 now with t9300, kinda thinking i should have went t8300 and save the $ but the t9300 will help resale$ later. anyone think that the T9500 has any gains here or do you think the memory bus is the bottleneck now?

    doesn't the T9500 have unlocked multi's too, like the X9000?
     
  20. narsnail

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    nope, only the extreme mobile proccesor lineup has the unlocked multipliers, signified by the "X" in their name.

    And i think you made a good choice, IMO, the t8300 would have held back this GPU, not by much though.

    ALSO

    Crysis is installing RIGHT now, so I will have those bench marks up very soon :)
     
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    @ snowsurfer, CPU only matters in RTS games... hell i playCrysis on high settings, 1400X900 ress with a pentuim 4 3.2ghz processor and a 8800GTS with 30 average FPS.
     
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    you sure about the T9500 not being able to change multi's ? coulda swore i read somewhere you could but it was not an advertised feature.
     
  23. narsnail

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    get a core 2 and those frames will go up.

    I play at that res on high at about 20FPS

    the CPU matters more than you think
     
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    Crysis Added :)
     
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    i cant get DX10 company of heroes to work, also does anyone know how to make crysis DX9? just have to a add a line or something into a cfg?
     
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    Very surpising! Seems like the 8800 took charge in those screenshots. Wasn't really expecting to see those kind of fps with the given processor, especially with settings generally high.
     
  27. narsnail

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    while the CPU isnt that important in gaming, it is holding back this GPU in this case....those frames could deffinately be higher.
     
  28. Snowsurfer

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    For Crysis click start menu then games and right click Crysis, both DX9 and DX10 are listed.
     
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    wow that was easy.....embaressing:S.........thanks!
     
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    -dx9 works too.
     
  31. JCMS

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    Well, you get dynamic shadows.
     
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    Thanks for these benchmarks on the 8800GTS. I was really confused whether I was making a mistake by not going for the GTX on the Alienware. But, this has pushed me more onto the Gateway computer. Do you think it would be a mistake by not going for the GTX on the Alienware? I don't really care whether it is a 15" or 17" laptop.
     
  33. narsnail

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    well your going to be spending alot more money....if you bought the alienware that would be enough for this laptop and a pretty good gaming desktop aswell. your choice though.
     
  34. Lethal Lottery

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    theese results are as week as my coffee.
     
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    I dialed Episode 2 settings to 8x AA and AF and the game never stuttered afterwards.

    World in Conflict runs fine Maxed with 2x AA if you drop Physics to low. That is the bottleneck.
     
  36. Snowsurfer

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    Lets see what ya got usedby/alienware. :eek: Coffee? We FX'ers can afford Double buckshots by the gallon with the dough we still have in our bank accounts.
     
  37. scorp40

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    His coffee is probably weak because after buying that Alienware, he can't afford to buy coffee to put in his cup of hot water.
     
  38. Desertf0x9

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    the price of an alienware you can buy the the gateway fx and a beast ass desktop that destroys the alienware.
     
  39. Lethal Lottery

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    lol gateway is trash, they die so fast. and i wont be needing a desktop in 2008. laptops FTW.
     
  40. naticus

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    no matter how much we tell these "slower" kids to stop breeding, they keep doing it....result= alienware/user
     
  41. narsnail

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    cool why dont you put up some benchmarks then....then I will put up my desktop owning your stupid $3000 laptop ones.

    i think your english mark is weaker than anything
     
  42. Desertf0x9

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    If i remember alienware use to have the most problems with failures but ok, Value is lost among the stupid
     
  43. scorp40

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    I've owned Gateways before, and the only issue I ever had with them was that they outlived their usefullness. You are entitled to your opinion, albeit a very expensive one if you ask me.
     
  44. Snowsurfer

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    He's just mad because he is behind on his payments for a lappy our Gateway can toast. Donation jar anyone?:tongue:
     
  45. narsnail

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    ill put in $5 if he shuts up...thats about a days interest right?
     
  46. Snowsurfer

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    OMG, click on this guys avatar (not his user name), then threads started by alienware/user, GREAT MACHINES THOSE ALIENWARES!
     
  47. narsnail

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    lol oh no his M7700 isnt working? thought they were great laptops?

    i reckon he sleeps with his laptop, it keep you nice and toasty at night?


    back on topic lol

    any other games I should try/benchmark other than Call of Duty 4?
     
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    UT3 or Bioshock, ran through Bioshock before I bought this lappy, great game.
     
  49. narsnail

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    ok....never tried those before...thanks.
     
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    I actually saw one of these laptops today, somebody had one in the school cafeteria...its really good looking! :p
     
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