8800m gtx and gts the same card hardware wise?

Hey everyone, I just picked up a new gateway P-16831fx and it has the 8800m gts as everyone knows.

I was thinking, is the 8800m gtx and gts the same card, just the 8800m gts has some stream shaders shut off with firmware? It seems like it would make more sense for nvidia to make just one card and then shut off some stream shaders in the lower end models to save money.

If that is true would it be possible to flash the bios of a 8800m gts to a gtx and possibly get those stream shaders turned on?

I know its a long shot, but I remember with certain ati cards it would work.

Im curious to see other people's thoughts on this. Im sure a lot of people know more about it then me.

 

i was thinking that same thing, but they probably cut the pipelines witha laser or something to make sure smart people like us didint figure it out.

 

hmm do you think if you flashed a gtx bios onto this card if it didnt work properly you could still get into dos to flash it back?

 

i was thinking of trying it....i would need to be walked thought it though cuzz i dont know how lol.

 

I don`t think so. They should be different from manufacturing,because otherwise the 8800M GTS would be a waste of a good GTX.
Then again,marketing suggests their the same thing with crippled SPs...so might be software-wise possible to unlock the other SPs. If so, nvidia would get a kick in the nuts

Anyone wanna play guinee pig by flashing the bios ?

 

I would be game lol I just helped my friend flash his ATI 3850 last night to up the voltage, its not really that hard.

I just hope that if it doesnt work properly i can still get into dos to relfash the old bios

What is your thoughts on it still working if not the proper bios? I have never seen anyone flash a card with the wrong bios so I dont know what generaly happens if its wrong? does it not work at all? or is it crashes and such?

 

I think ATI & Nvidia just cut the extra shaders after what happened with the first GF6200.

In case you want to know, a 8800M GTS G92M would be a defective G92M where all the 96SPs aren't working. You gotta be extremly lucky to get a card that has all the SP/Multiplier (CPU) working.

 

Well, since it`s a laptop, who`s to say? In a desktop WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO you would change the mainboard.
But then again, reflashing the BIOS should be just as easy as flashing it,and again,you should be convered by warranty ...or not

 

Not in case of bios flashing lol. Except maybe if you bought it off the store and go exange it on the first 15days money back warranty

 

Which is exactly what I was thinking

 

so is this gunna f**k up my laptop if i flash the bios over?

 

Quite possibly lol, but it could also give you a top of the line video card for dirt cheap lol

 

So does anyone know what normally happens if you flash your bios with the wrong bios ?

 

Well, they`re not that far priced one from another...so I wouldn`t call it dirt cheap.

And imho the risk is not justified.

 

I flashed my EVGA 8800GT SC, with KO/SSC bios back and forth to find good timing for the clock/shader/memory so I don't have to run rivatuner to OC it.

In the end, its flashed back to SC bio because I need rivatuner regardless to OC it to higher timings.

Now, where can we find a 8800mGTX bios?

 

The manufacturer webpage should have it, since there are no cracked bios versions out there anyways

 

I agree with said statement

 

me 2....i have no dea what could happen, im quite pleased with it now anyways

 

If you are still within your "no questions asked, 15 day return policy" or whatever, then flash it! if it breaks, meh you get a new one. If it works zoooooooooom

 

ive only had it a week, but i like it and couldnt imagine hurting it lol..

plus it was a pain in my hairy wookie a$$ installing everything and getting it the way I wanted, so eff that lol.

 

If i was you i would try it I remember i flashed the bios of my old Radeon 9800 pro to get a 9800 XT worked very well

 

If this works BB will be soon raided by gamers

8800m gts will become the best gpu ever and its price will shoot up

And 8800m gts will be crowned the best mistake of the year

 

Anyone try this yet? If so I might do it too

 

I don't think it would break it. it would just need re flash back with the original bios so just make a back up. the only problem i could see is not having a display output to navigate threw the flashing process to flash back to original. I suppose you could right down the steps but it would be sketchy at best. But i say do it. The world has to know!!

 

Flashing the bios is not hard at all. That being said flashing the bios for the purposes of overclocking seems pretty useless to me, but its great to increase the voltage and such. Theres no real threat as long as you remember to keep a backup of your old bios.

 

I will seriosuly try this if someone can lead me to an 8800m GTX BIOS, becuase I cannot find one, and then show me a guide on how to do it or run me thorugh it.

 

Heres a link to the 8800m gtx bios.
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...acturer=&model=8800M+GTX&interface=&memSize=0

But i don't think it will work i have herd of people trying to flash a 8800gt to a 8800gts 512 and it for the most part stop working they flashed it back and it worked fine. If you can get a new one from best buy i would try it.

Heres some good guilds
http://www.mvktech.net/content/category/4/67/37/

 

ok going to try it, just dont have a pen drive, only have a memory card reader usb drive and it wont read it...what else could I use.

Also there is no way this will wreck anything....im not changing clock speeds at all just opening up some stream processors...and if they have been cut no worries.

 

Ya it will not wreak it the problem i see is just trying to flash it back to origanal bios. you will not get any video display if it doesn't work. Maybe you can load this software on to a memory card
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/34/5
the "HP USB Stick format tool."

 

never mind, just borrowed a friends, and thanks for the Bios Jay +rep

 

And the verdict is... ?

 

He disappearing isn't a good news

laptopvideo2go has whole wack of bios on their front page. I am very tempted to try this myself... hope he comes back soon...

 

will not read my pen drive, I used this guide to copy my original BIOS, and it claims every time that i have an invalid command or the drive does not exist...I cannot figure it out and its pissing me off.

I haveit formatted to FAT, the 98 boot files are on, and I extracted the Nvflash files to my drive...anyone might know whats up?

 

Should work that way. Typing the right command? WHat does it say exactly? invaild command?

 

yes invalid command, and if you just take a glance at that guide, it says you type in nvflash(space)-b(space)OLDBIOS.ROM.

it will just have the C:\> and then I type in that command it says invalid command.

when I type in C:\> h: (which is the pen drive) and then the command it says invalid directory.

is C:\> allready the pen drive?

 

Good Luck with that guys, but I am reasonably sure I've read that they laser cut the pipelines to prevent what happened with that 6-series card.

 

no the command is nvflash NEWBIOS.ROM
nvflash OLDBIOS.ROM

No -b in it.

To check what the drive is, plug it in normally and see whats its named.

 

What happened to the 6th series cards? don`t know the story about that one

 

thanks, plus rep, will try and report back ASAP

 

Make sure you made you usb drive the first boot device that way it will default to c: and then just run nvflash command to check to see if you even can access the file on the jump. Make sure that you didn't put any files into folders. just makes it complicated. And it needs to be formatted with the hp tool. I have cwsdpmi.exe nvflash.exe and my rom files from old and new bios and a wmpinfo.xml on my jump drive. O ya and it helps to make the rom names short like newbios.rom oldbios.rom . and space mess it up for me sometimes so try to keep the file names short and sweet good luck.

 

My head! pls use punctuation O_O

 

ok I figured out the problem I think....I did not have those two files in the flash drive so I will add them and re try it. Thanks for everyones help, I would love to see this work!

 

..hmm I hope the Wook does not have to do a blind flash. Lots of 7900GS owners have learned that trick

 

ok I got NV Flash to work finally!

the line Forerunner gave me flashes a new BIOS i think.

The one with the "-b" in it grabs my old one, but ti claimed I do not have an Nvidia display adapted...so I am going to find an 8800m GTS bios, flash it, and when thats stable I will flash a 8800m GTX BIOS......wish me luck

 

We got a whole pile of REPS for you Good Luck!!

 

I have to head to class :S just remember the process so you can flash back to the origanal if it doesnt work because you will not have a display Good luck.

 

ok so! I cannot obtain my BIOS because it says there is no Nvidia display adapter.

I couldnt not find an 8800m GTS one so I just went ahead and tried to flash the 8800m GTX BIOS, but again it said no Nvidia display adpater could be found.

I think the BIOS is locked, I cant really get around that.

 

Good luck nars! Though I doubt this will work. You can try overvolting that beast of a card though!

 

thanks! I have a Phoenix BIOS editor right now, just need to figure out how to get the BIOS so I can unlock it. this still might work!

 

You should be able to back up your 8800m gts bios to the jump.
I think you will have to wait for nvflash to be updated so it supports 8800m