8800m gtx or 9800m gts

I have a sager np5793 and it's 4 months out of warranty. Recently the display will start to flicker and shortly there after a blue screen with memory parity error pops up. The odd thing is that if the ac adaptor is plugged in it does it within 10 minutes and if it's on battery it takes up to an hour.

If I run a vid card stability/benchmark test it crashes within a couple minutes making me think that it's definitely the vid card.

Any thoughts there?

For a 8800m gtx sager wants $745 and for a 9800m gts they want $430.

Is there anywhere else I can buy a card cheaper and install it myself? I'm desperate to save some money.

Thank you

 

the 8800m gtx is alot faster then the 9800m gts. but go to eurucom or rjtech and you should be able to get the 280m gtx for you system for about 500.

 

Hi jaredmccoy. There is a 9800M GTS going for a good price in the marketplace right now. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=394261

You can also go with the GTX 280M as dondadah88 suggested.

 

So what would be the comparison between the 8800m gtx 9800m gts and gtx 280m? Sorry I'm sure it's a basic quetion but I don't know much about cards or understand how to read benchmark tests.

 

in order from fast to slow
280m then 8800m gtx then 9800m gts

 

The difference between GTS and GTX isnt that big. Certainly not worth $300 premium imo.

 

The 9800M GTS can get crazy high clocks with a higher voltage rating. The 880M GTX (essentially a 9800M GT), has 32 more shaders, but it won't reach the same clocks. Increasing shader count doesn't necessarily increase performance linearly either.

 

Sager says that the gtx 280M will not fit in my 5793. The 8800m gtx seems to be discontinued.

I guess my only option is the 9800m GTS

In the real world is there really that big of a difference or is the difference just on FPS and benchmark tests?

 

Not really. If you run shader heavy applications such as Crysis, then yes. But the 9800M GTS still has plenty of kick in it.

 

I've realized that if my GPU temp hits 40 or 41 degrees C it starts to mess up and give me my hardware error. If I get it cooler than that it is ok. What would cause my vid card to crap out at such a low temp?

 

Card simply went bad. Internal malfunction.

cheers ...

 

I noticed that on the GPU processor the artic 5 thermal compound is like almost gone. Right where the heat sink attaches. Could this cause the problem?

Gonna try to put new compound on tomorrow as one last try before finding a new card. If that fails I dono what else to do other than get a new card.

 

I dont think its the compound because if it were the compound it would of overheated bringing your temps way higher, but try and replace the compound.

 

yea stick eith what you got, temps are fine

 

You'd think so just because of the shader clocks but actually the difference is minimal, close to insignificant. The GT 1-2 FPS better in some games and barely a difference, if any in others.

The 280M is alot faster than either.

 

this is like comparing a 8800m GTS to 8800m GTX. the GTX is only about 10% at most faster then the GTS. and since the 9800m GTS runs at 600 on the core vs 500 on the 8800M GTS, it makes up that little difference. i would go with the 9800m GTS.

 

honestly i would go for the 280m brand new if you can afford it. if not then i would go for the 9800m gts in the marketplace.

 

Sager says the 280M will not fit in my laptop

 

have you called rjtech or eurucom. that the same thing they said about a q9650 fitting into my clevo d901c

 

Ya RJ Tech said it's out of stock and Eurocom said it's $605. Eurocom said they weren't certain it'd work with my 5793. From pictures it looks like the 280 has the same shape factor as the 8800. Would I need a different heat sink or is it incompatible with my mobo?

 

it will come with a heatsink with it. but you can take off your heatsink and use that on it.

 

Does it need a certain type of mother board or anything? Other than the heatsink it doesn't matter?

 

Physically it should fit, but it might just not be recognized in terms of BIOS support.

 

Anything I could do to fix that?

 

Not really. It's up to the notebook company to determine what GPUs (and CPUs) they will support. Similarly, why you can't just throw in a quad core into any PM/GM45 chipset (even if it fits and there is enough power supply and cooling ability).

 

go in the sager forum and ask how many people have done this and comfirm if it works.

 

I noticed that the thermal compound on the GPU had spread EVERYWHERE. I cleaned it all up with some alcohol and then reapplied artic silver 5. The first time I've ever done that and it wasn't perfect but I think I got a thin and fairly neat layer.

Then I ran a benchmark to heat the vid card up. This time no flickering. I got it up to 59 deg C and it just locked up. But an improvement over 40-42 deg and a blue screen harware error.

I rebooted a few times and it twice it flickered some and then locked up.

Going to reinstall the drivers.

It's still not stable but much handling higher temps than before. What else should I try???

 

Check that...now it once again blue screen of deaths at 41 C. Hmmm...if I apply thermal compound does it need to break in before getting hot?

 

no it will be ok. you maybe blue screen cause your card is alreadly in bad condition.

 

Well was just trying to repair before trying to find one to buy. Wonder why as soon as I applied new thermal compound it would work to a higher temp 1 time. Aggravating!

 

unless you have a bad memory chip on your gpu, i think it's your ram. pull one stock out and try it then repeat for the other. then if you have a spare hdd, reinstall windows to see if your hdd is bad. because 41 is to low for something like that to happen unless you have a bad mem chip.

 

I've run memtest86 and it came up fine. I've run several HD tests and they've come out fine and I've not had and HD problems anyway.

I'll try the RAM modules one at a time. Don't have a spare 2.5" hdd.

 

The 8800M GTX (9800M GT) is slightly faster than the 9800M GTS.

 

i heard it was apercent but why get something that's weaker when you had a champ.

i don't think it is. as a close margain as some people are say. i know it basically 64SP vs 98SP. but i think it makes a different. i know the 8600m gs vs the 9800m gt make one.

 

True that the jump between those two cards (8600M and 9800M) is noticable but it's not quite on the same field as choosing between the GT and GTS.

While the GT has 50% more SP, the GTS has higher clock speeds that nearly make up the speed. Both OC very well as already stated so let's not do a silly, "well, if you OC the GT..." statement.

If you have a choice and the costs for both the GT and GTS are similar then go for the GT. If the GTS is considerable cheaper, like this and you're trying not too spend much go for the GTS - you're not missing out on much.

 

When first released, the M860TU mainly came with either a 9800M GT (8800M GTX) or a 9800M GTS. There were many comparisons, however when benchmarked the 9800M GT only seemed slightly more powerful. If they're priced closely, go for the 8800M GTX; if the 9800M GTS is much cheaper, go for that.

 

I've used 1 RAM module at a time and am getting the same results. I don't have a spare HDD to reinstall windows into.

I'm pretty sure it's the vid card. I'm about tempted to try the oven bake fix I've been reading about. Don't know if my symptoms would even be fixed by reflowing solder but worth a shot I guess lol.

A local computer repair guy said that maybe there's a bios setting that tells the card to cut off at a certain temp to protect it. He said that maybe it got set at too low of a temp. I looked into the bios and didn't find a setting for anything like that. Plus I don't see why it would flicker the display and blue screen instead of just cut off.

I realize the 8800 is a better card and it does SUCK to think of getting a sweet custom made laptop and now downgrading it...but the only 8800 I can find is from sager for $745 plus shipping of PC. That's crazy!!!

So I guess I'll go without a pc except on battery power with fans on full blast until I can find a 8800 or 9800 used here on the forums.

 

The 8800m GTX's are few and far between. Having trouble finding one that's not marked up big time. I've found a 9800m GT on ebay. What would I need to do to make it compatible with my 5793? If it's the same essentially as the 8800 and my laptop supports a 9800m GTS why wouldn't it work?

 

All you need to remove the heatsink from your 8800M GTX and mount it onto the 9800M GTS and it's ready to go.

Do you have the link to the eBay page?

 

you have a flash drive? you could boot windows off that.

 

These are 9800m GT not a GTS...that's why I'm curious if I need to do anything else as Sager doesn't say that it supports the GT, only the GTS. But I've been told that I could from some people on forums.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-GeForce-9800M-GT-MXM-lll-512MB-DDR3-G92-985-A2_W0QQitemZ380140365218QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item588221a5a2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A2123|293%3A1|294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.com/NVidia-GeForce-9800M-GT-Laptop-MXM-III-512MB-Video-Card_W0QQitemZ330344501550QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item4cea11112e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A2123|293%3A1|294%3A50