93c to hot for a 9800M GS while gaming?

I used the stock OC'ing on my asus notebook and after 4 hours of gaming on cpuid my video card read 199F/93c

 

when as the last time you cleaned out the vents and fans?

if never, then that could be why.

 

I've only had the notebook a few months.

cpu never went above 58/59c
hdd 45c max

 

your supposed to clean them out once a month.

 

ask clutch he knows alot about the X5

 

I get nervous one mine goes over 70C.

 

93 degrees? Your laptop will break very soon my friend. I would strongly suggest cleaning out the fans quickly (or just buy a lappy with an ATI card )

 

The last 2 I purchased has 9600 nvidia cards and both were bad. This is my 3rd. I'm beginning to think I'm cursed with video cards.

 

serious;y doubt it

Mine has been going that high for a long time without me noticing it
But it will break eventually
It depends what types of games you are playing also. My gpu with fallout 3 on ultra high settings get to 91 degrees c and I just cleaned the dust out a couple weeks ago

but playing like cs:S it is like at 70 degrees c i think

 

I'm into bioshock right now

 

dangit

I just ht 92 c when playing fallout 3

I have an ASUS g50vt a1

Im getting a bit scared that something bad is going to happen.......

I JUST CLEANED IT OMFG

what should be the temp of the 9800 GS? (make sure if your answering this that you have a 9800 gs)

HOW DO I MAKE IT COLDER

(I heard that there is a way to make the fan run faster? and would turning off vista themes and rocketdock cool the temps down while gaming?)

 

LOL He didnt even mention what notebook he had in the thread? SO is it? lol

Anyways read the thread. Taking higher end G50VT's for example with a T9400 the GPU runs a few degrees hotter than P7450/P8400. I hit 85C in crysis regularly with the P7450 and then 90C with the T9600 though games like GRiD can push it higher.

The thermal max of the card is 110C the point in which it downclocks to save itself, but pushing 90 makes me uncomfortable, being in the mid 80's to 90 is unfortunately reality for this laptop.

I game more then i run around with myne so like some other people with the zalman I just take the bottom panel off and it runs 15C cooler. I only get to 75C or so with it like that. It is NOT recommended to run the laptop without the bottom panel without a cooler.

 

ok i have an asus g50vt A1. now my max is 92 c when playing fallout 3 on ultra high settings

Now I think it has been doing this for a while becuase since i have gotten it last christmas, I was a noob and never even thought about checking its temps until a couple of weeks ago.

Will running it in this temp zone kill the laptop before 2 years?

will the zalman decrease this temp (with th back panel on because idw to take it off all the time)

 

Im no expert on graphics cards, i wonder this myself but you also have to note that on the P cpu models mid 80's is normal and T series upwards and possibly a little over 90 happens. There is only so much that can be done about it.

The Zalman lines up with the G50VT better then something like the more powerful NZXT Cryo LX, this makes the zalman more ideal. Though if you read my zalman review its only good for about 5C on each thing.

Undervolting the CPU and reducing its heat will actually help reduce the heat of the GPU as well. If your GPU's voltage is 1.11 you might be able to edit the bios and bring it down to 1.07 like i did. Exostensa's 9800M GS was 1.07 stock. Not a huge difference and i cant measure it but if it runs stable at the voltage its a good thing anyways.

 

Im not sure I want to undervolt. I don't want to lose performance

What will happen when the gpu breaks though? Will it just stop working? btw if something bad does happen will asus warrenty fix it?

 

Undervolting not Underclocking. Reducing the voltage will not reduce the performance, unless your looking it at an electrical engineers stand point that a slower voltage opens and closes a solid state switch slower were talking on an inmeasurable scale.

I of course as a sceptic have benched the cpu and gpu undervolts to find out if this was true, and the benches did not show any decrease in performance.

The only thing I could guess you might mean is if your cpu has a half multiplier then rmclock doesnt support it, rm clock isnt the only undervolting solution.

I am actually undervolting the gpu while overclocking to GTS Speeds btw.

 

I have a g50vt a1

Running it with the bottom cover off will drop it 15c? That's a huge difference. Mine mainly just sits on my desk. I have a netbook to move around now so that isn't a problem.

Why do I need a cooler to run with the bottom panel off?

 

As i said before with that T9400 (or any T series really) the extra cpu heat in comparison to my original P series does cause the gpu to not cool as well. The GPU is cooled by air that has already cooled the cpu a moment prior, the hotter the cpu is the hotter the gpu is. Alot of games make good use of the cpu these days.

Based on the initial temps of my T9600 swap and using AS5 for paste i would say 90C is normal for this laptop. That however doesnt say how the gpu will take it in its lifetime.

Dont worry G51 owners are getting to 97C on their GTX 260M's that are underclocked, they have real problems lol.

 

I have been running GTS speeds for a long while now, and ever since I got mine I get temps near 90 or over 90C and for almost a year nothing has happened, no downclock, not BSOD, not anything.

I will try undervolting though... lets see if I can maintain GTS speeds with less voltage.

To be honest, I am not worried about the temp. Nothing has happened so far, no device is malfunctioning, the laptop itself doesn't even feel hot at all, so I don't really think about it much. Specially since I live in México. with ambien temps of 40C, and my laptop max temp has been 95C in such a hot area, I doubt it will go higher anytime soon

Of course I always keep my machine up to shape, cleaning it regularly and avoiding using it on closed spaces, as I have witnessed Gateway FX crash due to very high temps.

 

Wow I never knew that, I thought the normal temperature for intense games was ~85c. Guess I'll just get a cooler then.

 

My m860tu with 9800GTS has been running around 90-95 for 6 months. No worries

 

I have the same problem as u. My GPU can overheat to 90-95C easily when i play cod4 so i got a simple solution for the problem. Raise your laptop off the ground and blow air underneath it using a big stand fan. It reduced the temperature of my gpu by 20++ and not to mention kept the rest of my computer cool

 

Mine hits 86C on L4D at max settings at 1680x1050 on my Asus G50-X6 and it seems to do fine. How do I clean out the vents?

 

Take a bottle of compressed air and spray it into the vents. What would be better is opening the back up and clean out vents aswell as the fan.

 

Hmm I took the bottom case off to look at the HDD bays but is there a guide for cleaning the X6? or any g50?

 

just take the bottom off and spray all the dust away from your fan and the rest of the parts in there....that's all you need to do.

 

Sounds good I'll try tomorrow.

 

I have been getting alot of mixed messages about the G50VT, but maybe i can get some straight answers here.

i've read over this thread and many other threads like it, but so far i keep two sides to the question of how hot is too hot for the 9800M GS. I usually hit up to about 80C when I play games like cod4 and crysis, but people either say its bad or normal. I have owned laptops that run WAY hotter than this one (such as an MSI that would actually shut down in game due to GPU overheating) but since I just got my G50VT X1 a few weeks ago, I'm kind of a noob with it. I don't overclock, not even with Direct Console. I play Crysis on High-Medium settings (some extra features such as motion blur i have deemed useless for online play) and cod4 on relatively high settings, except for a few features that distract me when I'm destroying other players online. however, both games despite my settings being turned modestly lower cause my GPU temps to rise a little too much for my liking; 75C for cod4, 80C for crysis.

I have purchased a cooler (Cooler Master Notepal X1) that i'm actually pretty happy with, but I'd like to go even colder. I really don't want to have to replace a GPU in the future, nor do I want to void my warranty with Asus by applying my own thermal compound.

Is 80C too hot for the 9800M GS?

Is undervolting a safe option that wont kill my warranty? and is there a program that can make it convenient for me to do?

and is it really true that you can run the laptop 15C cooler without the bottom panel on?

I'm basically looking for ANY means of cooling that roaster of a GPU down. hell, I may even be willing to void the warranty.

 

80C is terrific for any gaming laptop. You don't need to do anything to it.

Undervolting requires a bios flash which can either go very smoothly and you'll be as happy as a clam or go terribly wrong and you'll be shouting expletives for a couple of errors.

 

But wouldn't 80C end up lowering the life of the GPU? at least that is what i have heard about this particular model.

I just took the bottom panel off my X1 a few hours ago.... Hopefully Asus won't be able to find out I did that. I noticed that the 9800M GS is pretty odd shaped compared to other 9800M GS's that I have seen. That would be pretty tough to replace....

Also, how well is the stock thermal compound applied to both the GPU and CPU on the G50VT? I have a fresh tube of AC5 I'm itching to try out...

 

Use it till it dies and then get a new one. It's not a house - if you get 2-3 years of life from it, you have got your monies worth.

By the time it dies there might be netbooks that are faster LOL.

 

My 9800m GS played at 93C all the time. Asus said they would replace the GPU for me and the store I bought my LT from said they can do all the work for free, bu as of yet I'm just too lazy to be without my laptop for a week or so and considering it works fine I'm just forgetting about it.

 

Let me say again, 80C is phenomenal. What are you expecting of it? To run below ambient temperature? To make ice cubes for you?

Every component on a laptop will die at one point, its just when it will die. If your GPU will go out on you in like 8 years, its a moot point since the vast majority of people won't use it that long. Stop worrying, people with much higher temps (like me) aren't and just be happy you got a cool system.

 

Idk, its just one of those things where I get really obsessive over. Also, the lower the temps, the less I get physically burned from heat. Haha. And in my experience, my performance is usually better when I'm running at a decent temperature.

Plus, its a little bit of a past time for me to make my computers run as well as possible. The cooler the better. The faster the better. You get the idea. I'm kind of a performance .

 

Don't worry about it.

My 9800gts have been running around 90-95 for over 8 months now. No problems. It downclocks when it gets to 96. And it only gets this hot in newer games with max settings. COD 4 for example only reaches 80 on max settings. I don't understand the ppl here saying it will break very soon. You're basing that on what?

 

Thats is not a good temp.

are you doing routine cleaning of the vents and fan inside the notebook?

and you should consider re-applying thermal compound for the GPU.

 

You can't open some laptops without voiding the warranty.

 

Mine hovers around 85C when playing GRiD and Fallout 3.

Try some thermal paste like AS5 or ICD7 which can help out a little bit

 

well, but a Cooler Master notepal Infinite
it'll help you a little bit

 

In Orluff's case, he can open up the laptop without voiding the warranty.

On a GPU, the memory is the most sensitive to heat. If Orluff keeps pushing over 90*C for extended periods of time frequently, he will have a dying GPU in the near future. Keep in mind that this is with his laptop clean. When his heatsink starts building up dust, his temps will only get worse. Less than ideal conditions will also drive up the temperature.

I don't feel like repeating myself again, so I'll just link back to the past starting with post #117. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=382162&page=12

 

I just hit 103c yesterday playing DoW 2... time to take it in for service!

 

damn, thats pretty hot.

yeah, i bought a cooler master notepal X1... pretty nice, dropped my temps a bit.
i'm thinking about voiding that warranty by applying some AC5, but idk yet. 75C is nice and all, but I want to make some SERIOUS improvements. I like the feeling of being proud of my laptop. haha.

im penning out some designs for a new cooling setup...
it would require a case mod, but the extra fan would be worth it. I wont actually void anything, since ill be recreating the bottom panel of my G50VT X1 and adding an extra port for a fan over the GPU.
then power it externally, say through a USB cable. include a convenient little fan controller, and voila.

 

Is there a thermal pad between the GPU die and the heatsink, or is the die making direct contact with the heatsink?

 

dude, don't mess with it. like somebody else said, 75 degrees is PERFECT!

 

To be honest, I'm not quite sure, since I haven't found a sneaky way to remove my heatsink without voiding my warranty. I would assume that there isn't a thermal "pad" but in fact a thermal compound, sort of like Arctic Silver 5 but not as good. Stock thermal compounds usually aren't too great, but if your warranty is up I would definitely apply some AC5.

I'm doing the whole "bottom panel expansion" thing because its at absolutely no cost to my warranty since I'm making a new panel instead of altering the one Asus gave me. This will be pretty interesting, and maybe a popular case mod if I manage to pull it off.

 

Dude...you really don't need to mod things at all. It'll be much more likely that you'll mess something up and then be stuck in a RMA mess rather than significantly improving already terrific temps.