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    9600 GT specs out - how long til the 9800M GTX is available?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by MrFong, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. MrFong

    MrFong Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, it seems that leaked 9600 GT benchmarks can now be found at numerous sites online - http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=6340 is one example.

    How long do you fellas reckon it'll be til the 9800 GTX is available? And how long from then til the 9800M GTX?
     
  2. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    I'd like to know myself... :p
     
  3. NULL

    NULL Notebook Consultant

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    just FYI: i don't believe there is anyone here that can predict the future :cool:
     
  4. kind3r

    kind3r Notebook Consultant

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    You can compare the time they took to release 8800 gtx after the initial release of 8800 for desktops..... so I imagine it will be like 2009 (maybe :D )
     
  5. Veggie

    Veggie Notebook Consultant

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    You no the 9*** series is basically the 8*** series rebanded right?Much like the 7800GTX>7900GTX.

    It will run cooler and prob be clocked a bit higher but thats ALL!

    Not worth waiting for IMO.
     
  6. Desertf0x9

    Desertf0x9 Notebook Evangelist

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    Those benchmarks look very impressive, but I don't know how much we can trust them. If they're right I may just wait for the 9600 gts for 15.4 inch laptops and smaller.
     
  7. silentnite2608

    silentnite2608 Notebook Evangelist

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    By the way these are for desktop.
    The highest so far for notebook is 9500M GS which = 8600m GT
     
  8. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    So the 8800M GTX still reigns supreme ? :D
     
  9. silentnite2608

    silentnite2608 Notebook Evangelist

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    Most likely for while.
    If you click on All info for 9xxx series there are number of posts point that the lastest 9 series is = 8600GT DDR2
     
  10. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    yes and it will be supreme for a long time if the 3870 dont bet it which i doubt
     
  11. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    ATI ? I wouldn't get ATI anyway. Never have, always prefer nVidia..
     
  12. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    yes its ATI so i doubt it will be as good as the GTX. The desktop version of the 3870 is weaker than GTX. The 3870X2 is however stronger
     
  13. TheGreatGrapeApe

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    Musta sucked to be you in 2006 and during the whole FX era.

    Being brand loyal makes little sense, IMO, always buy the best.
     
  14. wilsonywx

    wilsonywx Notebook Evangelist

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    considering that the high end desktop versions of the 9 series cards haven't came out yet, and that the 9600 gt is not much different hardware wise from g92 cards, I'd say at least a couple months (just think about how long it took the 8800m to come out)
     
  15. jamesmoon2

    jamesmoon2 Notebook Guru

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    The 9800 will come out on December 3 2008. so you decide if its worth waiting for... the clocks will be higher and there will be a 1 gig memory option card.
     
  16. NULL

    NULL Notebook Consultant

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    only a fool would be loyal to certain brands. clearly companies are not customer loyal. they don't care about you. but your friend Benjamin on the other hand..
     
  17. Snowsurfer

    Snowsurfer Rocky Mtn High

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    Meemat Notebook Evangelist

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    Where'd you get this info?
     
  19. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    ...brand loyalty is so dumb, go with the best. Anyhow I think the 4670 which is rumoured will be compared to the 9600GT. Don't think the 3670 will be able to compete since its only 128-bit.
     
  20. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    i dunno. i believe one of the gpu creators for nvidia stated that the high end 9 series will be the first to achieve the 1teraflop mark which would put one 9800gtx at about the same performance as 3 8800Ultra.....so the notebook version of the 9800m should be around the same as 8800ULtra SLi. Of course all this is speculation so we'll have to wait probably til next summer to see, but then they'll be announcing the 10 series by then....i'll never get a laptop.
     
  21. TheGreatGrapeApe

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    No, you need to look into that a little deeper.
    1 Teraflop is the heoretical max for the then G9x solution they were talking about, and it was said to be 'just under 1 teraflop' , and the theoretical max of the GF8800GTX was 518GFlops (which is best case scenario not even accesible at first), with a launch accesible amount of about 346Glops. After driver updates using the 'missing MUL' more effectively by better queuing they were able to get actual to around 460Gflops which is similar to the HD2900XT's 472, the Ultra pushed it to 48x something with the latest drivers for GPGPU work. So the 3X was 3 times actual, and the statement was theoretical max, which would mean that it's just under 2 times as powerful (in SPU power only) as a GTX not Ultra. Reviewers converted that 1 teraflop into 1/346 = ~3 times faster, which of course is wrong.

    As for the first to reach that, technically the HD3870X2 already broke that barrier with each RV670 doing 528Gflops for a combined 1.05 Teraflops.

    Remember too that SPU power isn't everything, if they double the SU count but leave everything else rather similar it will have much more shader power but not much more texture power or ROP numbers for AA resolve, so it could end up less powerful than a GF880U in SLi in some situations depending on how it's designed.
     
  22. JCMS

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    The G80 was not mobileable, the G92 & G94 are so it might take less time. I'm setting the 9600M GT for this spring-early summer

    The 3650 is between the 2600PRO and 2600XT, the 3690 is a tiny bit stronger than the 8600GTS.
     
  23. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

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    Delete this post please....
     
  24. MrFong

    MrFong Notebook Evangelist

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    After reading the info on the 9600 benches, I started feeling buyer's remorse - and this is before I've even so much as ordered my 8-series powered laptop. Problem is that by the time the 9-series hits laptops, I'll have started my university term and will already need a new laptop.

    I guess it's time to hope that the 10-series comes out compatible with MXMIV.
     
  25. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    Buying a laptop for school? If you want it to be a Crysis machine and 15.4 inches I'd suggest going for something like the Alienware 15x.

    There is no reason to be fretting about getting the 8 series compared to the 9 series right now. It'll be a little while before we see 9 mobile anyway. Chances are you will either see it late summer or late winter, so you'll get a chance to buy it possibly.

    Heck, I was in a similar situation, waiting for an 8800m GTX I ended just getting a MacBook Pro with an 8600m GT...and it runs ALL of my games JUST FINE. It doesn't do Crysis at native res and medium, but who cares, I just lower the rest and tweak the settings a little.
     
  26. Heathkidd

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    the only new Nvidia chip to have more performance than the 8series is going to be the GT200 and apparently its one of the hottest chips they have ever made... it may never make it to note book.

    i think it will be like how the geforceGO7950 was the top for ages.. i think we will see every other mobile gpu beside the 8800 replace and a year + time frame.

    company's like Alienware are not stupid... if they knew that the new 4core mobile cpus and 9series GPu's and DDR3 where worth it for gaming they would not have released the M15x and waited 3 months.. they want their products to last 18months+ at least with only slight changes in configuration.
     
  27. MrFong

    MrFong Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm probably going for 1920x1200, because I figure that 1440x900 just won't cut it in a couple of years' time. And because I'm getting 1920x1200, I think I may be opting for the m17x instead of m15x, for that extra real estate.

    MacBook seems pretty overpriced for what it's got in it. Well, who'm I to say anything, I guess, after pretty much deciding on the m15x/m17x :p Just gotta wait for that black Ripley to come out...
     
  28. jujube

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    Maybe he/she wasn't there during those bad nvidia days where the fx was gimping along ati's dust trails. Now it's the reverse but given ATI's continued spiral downwards Nvidia is assuredly in front for the foreseeable future. But brand loyalty and sacrifice price for performance is not a wise decision.
     
  29. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    No. I'm not loyal to ANY brand. It's just that coincidentally it so happens that apparently I HAVEN'T tried any ATI card before, partly because they weren't popular/available in my area.
    Now that I'm buying a new laptop, I could have very well got an ATI, but what beats a 8800M GTX, eh ?
     
  30. TheGreatGrapeApe

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    Nothing currently beats a GF8800M GTX, but if something were to come out and do so from the AMD camp, then the 'Why get ATi, never have, aklways prefer nVidia' would lead someone to believe you'd overlook it just because of the name badge.

    If your experience is limited, then the 'never have, always prefer nVidia' seems kind of a strange way to put it. It implies a great deal of experience and options, and always choosing nV for some reason.

    Anywhoo, I use and have used both for a very long time, and still Nothing beats a good old NeoMagic. :D
     
  31. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah I guess so. But I'm happy with nVidia still. Somehow I feel phobic towards even trying ATI, I know that's not very justified a thing to do. Bite me.
     
  32. eleron911

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    For the price some people upgraded from the 8600M GT to the 7950GTX , a friend bought a HD 2900 Pro, scored as much as a 8800M GTX in 3d mark06,plays crysis on high at 1280x800 and still has money to buy a second computer, in the same money in which I bought my laptop.
    Isn`t lappy world grand? :D