9600M GT Performance

How much of an improvement is there with the 9600M GT GDDR2 found in newer HP laptops over the popular 8600M GT GDDR3 present in the XPS M1530s?

Also does anyone know if the 9600M GT chips are affected by the recent nVidia chip problem circulating around the internet? Im under the the impression that the 9600M GT is a G96 chip unlike the G92/G94 chips.

thanx in advance

 

No improvement. Both will give similar performance.

AFAIK, the 9600M GT (G96) is not affected by the nvidia solder bump problem, etc.

 

I beg to differ but I'm sure that 9600M GT is faster than 8600M GT, even though 9600M GT is DDR2 and 8600M GT is DDR3. This is because 9600M GT has higher clock. From what I read it is about 15-20% faster than 8600M GT

 

It is faster than the 8600M GT but not significantly. And yeah, it is a G96 so it should be ok.

 

I thought i read it was about as fast as a 8800GT roughly (but might of been the GDDR3 version I was reading about)

I'd say they both play games about as well as each other but you could get a few more Frames Per Second out of the 9600GT DDR2 over the 8600M GT GDDR3. Wouldn't try playing in DX10 mode with either of them if possible thoug lol. Stick to DX9.

 

Slightly faster, overclocks better

 

I've seen user tests for the 9600M GT DDR2/GDDR3 (3DM06 4.5k/5.4k) and the 8600M GT GDDR3 (3DM06 4.5k), with almost the same notebook configs.

 

Basically the answer is get the 9600M GT if the option is there as it is the newer and faster card But don't pay a fortune.

 

That's the Desktop 9600 GT. The 9600M GT is way different. Go NVIDIA naming scheme.

 

You're not going to see a noticeable difference between an 8600M-GT GDDR3 and a 9600M-GT DDR2. A full analysis of the 9600M-GT 512MB DDR2 in the HP dv5t can be found here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=286033

 

Hmm Nvida should name their notebook chips differently instead of just putting the M after it, so as not to make the 9600M GT and 9600 GT sound similar/the same in performance lol.

 

the 9600m gt ddr2 is slightly slower. 3950 vs 4200 in 3dmark scores.

 

When I looked through the reviews, the 4200 scored by the m1530 was at a 1200x800 resolution whereas in Chaz's review of the 9600m GT resulted in a 3950 at 1280x1024.

Usually there is roughly a 10% decrease from the added resolution, putting the 8600m GT (GDDR3) score at roughly 3800 for the test at 1280x1024. This is consistent with the slight performance increase of the 9600m GT over the 8600m GT being reported.

 

My 9600M GT scores around 4060 at 1280x1024.

 

im 100% sure that 9500GS = 8600m GT they are both near the 4,000 3Dmark i dont even have to check.

 

How does crysis perform on the dell xps m1530?? It runs alright on the 9600M GT. ( HP dv5t )
I'm trying to decide between these two laptops. At first I was going to buy a MSI GX620. But out of stock. So, between these two laptops which one will perform better in gaming?

 

HP dv5t for sure. Why would you go with an older GPU when you can get a very similar machine with a better GPU?

 

u cant judge a gpu just by its 3d06 score or in game fps,
the video quality, color reproduction matters too.
and 9 always> 8>7 so forth.

9600m gt scoreed 4000 3d06 exact on hp dv7t with 2.53 t9400.

 

i know, but i know for sure that the 9500gs is pushing about 3800 in 3dmark06

 

Take a look at the benchmarks. The 9600m gt ddr2 is definately faster than any 8600. But just slightly faster.
The 9600m gt ddr3 is much faster in contrast. You should go for that one.

Here are some benches. Unfortunately the text is in German.
http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/618_hp_pavilion_dv5_1040eg/6

 

I was thinking abt going for a dv5t. But when I heard that dv5t goes up to 91 celcius, I wasn't sure for myself. Thats why I was considering a XPS M1530.
I'm a serious gamer. Not all that modern games. Here are some of the games I normally play :

NFS Most Wanted
NFS Carbon
FIFA08 ( hopefully I will buy FIFA09 when it comes out )
COD4
GTA San Andreas ( GTA4 when it comes out )
Unreal Tournament 2004 ( UT3 too )
Assassins Creed
C&C Generals ( Zero Hour )
C&C Red Alert 2 ( C&C Red Alert 3 )
Crysis

Note : I play classics a modern games too.

I heard that XPS M1530 handels UT3 and Assassins Creed just fine. Crysis, maybe not. I'd buy it if I had know that XPS M1530 would handel FIFA09 and GTA4, even if at low settings. Help!! NEED A LAPTOP VERY SOON!! LOL

And by the way, is there any laptop that features 9600M GT DDR3?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=239827
5258 3DMarks with 8600M GT GDDR3 @ 1280x1024, 169.04 drivers

I pretty sure there's almost no difference between the cards at the same clock speed.

 

This laptop does:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4628
I benchmarked a few of those games on my dv5t:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=286033
9600M-GT DDR2 = 8600M-GT DDR3.

I agree with that statement.

 

hotpursuit, if you are a serious gamer, go for a 9700m or a 9800m, or even an 8800m. If you're playing a lot of games it's definitely worth it as I'm sure you'll spending a lot more time gaming than lugging around a few extra pounds.

Pick up a Qosmio or something. The XPS m1530 is great and its a small form factor for a 15.4" but my brother has an XPS m1530 with intel graphics onboard and it's noticeably lighter than my 1530 with the 8600m gt. So weight wise, adding a few more pounds wouldn't break your back in exchange for the pleasure of a more powerful card.

 

Hey, I saw this the other day on BestBuy site.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8906133&type=product&id=1213046768588

Looks like a pretty good laptop. But the processor is really bad!

 

I was impressed, especially with the price. That 9700M GT is the most powerful midrange gpu available.

1. The 2.0ghz core 2 duo & 9700M GT will outperform any of the dv5t's 9600MGT's or dell 8600M GT's with 2.5ghz, 6mbcahe....
2. The CPU is always upgradable if that is a must, It could bottleneck your gpu in some new RTS's at higher resolutions, but that is more than sufficient.

Have you checked out:
- The NP5793 firesale? (256bit)
- Toshiba F55 (256bit)

 

Great deal! Nothing wrong with the processor..
Just a bit heavy, but Asus has great build quality AFAIK.

 

Great!! I think I will go for the G50Vm-X1!! Cool looks too! Thanks for all the advice you guys have given me in choosing a laptop! And also, is this laptop a montvenia platform? And can I upgrade the processor to a T9600? (that is the best processor for a laptop, as I know - I may be wrong )

Yes, I have checked those two laptops. As for the NP5793, I want a mainstream laptop. And for the Toshiba Qosmio F55, too heavy. 6.37 lbs. ( as on amazon.com )

Thanks again for the advices!! I'll post some pics and some benchmarks on some of the games I mentioned before. Thank you all!

 

Umm... There are other reasons NOT to get the G50V-X1. One reason is the much MUCH worse screen (difficult to change), lack of accessories (like a pretty darn good MX518 mouse and asus backpack, slower ram, slower proc (another 200 dollars for a good cpu). Personally, the screen alone is worth the extra money.

This is compared to the G50V-A1 of course. It costs 1600ish dollars and well worth the extra money.

The Qosmio may be a better buy. Really, the difference in weight is negligible (a pound difference AT MOST). Its gfx are roughly 20%~30% better.

 

I could upgrade the processor later on. And as for the screen, I dont think its that worse. Even if it has a higher resolution screen, I dont think the 9700M GT would be able to handel modern games at those resolution. So I think that the current screen is the best for it. Also what do you mean by lack of accessories?? RAM is DDR2 800MHz right?

 

The screen quality is also better in the A1 along with the gorgeous res. Sure you won't be playing most modern or future games at native (assassin's creed is quite fine) so just turn the in-game res down. Doesn't look THAT bad. Plus when you're not actually gaming, the extra screen real estate is priceless.

The ram is slower (667 vs 800) too and the hdd capacity is less if a bit faster (200gb 7200rpm vs 2 250gb 5400 rpm).

THe accessories include the MX518 gaming mouse, a very well-known and very good mouse and a backpack which is of pretty decent quality.

Oh and the last thing, the far better Asus warranty. It's international, 2 years by default (can upgrade to 3) with 1 year accidental warranty.

 

Thats pretty good, but I want to keep my purchase under $1350. I saw the Asus G50-A1 last week. At Xoticpc. But it was a little over my budget. Thats why I went for a dv5t or an M1530. But I found G50Vm-X1. Which I liked very much as it looked just like an A1. ( or si it the same with different specs? )

Got a few questions before purchasing. I was hoping you guys could help me :
- Is it centrino 2?
- Can I change the RAM to 800Mhz RAM?
- To which processor can I upgrade?

Thanx

 

If you're sure then by all means go ahead and get it. To answer your questions,

- Yes and therefore
- Yes
- Any montevina (and I think santa rosa. not sure abt this) processor . I reckon it'll even take the quad core one. The temps are excellent. You probably won't need to upgrade anyway as Asus will allow you a 15% OC with their inbuilt utility or you can use setFSB to raise you clocks.

 

OH MY GOODDD!!! I'M A REALLY LUCKY GUY!!

I just happened to open a post in notebookreview forum just before ordering G50VM-X1, and know what the thread contained?? It was abt the G50V. A G50-A1 owner said that bestbuy's product was horrible. And somewhere I read that the screen sometimes stays black, even when the system is runnin. A UK guy I think it was. So I'm staying away from G50VM-X1. But thanx for all that answers.

I'm going back with dell. Speaking abt dell, I heared that they are going to upgrade to montvenia platform. Two new laptops too.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/26/dell-studio-xps-13-and-16-leak-out-due-in-november/

 

uhh . . . . sorry abt messing up the post. This post was abt 9600M GT performance, not abt me buying a laptop. Sorry abt that.

And to all intrested in 9600M GT, theres an acer laptop which features 9600M GT DDR3. Pretty cool looking too.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=306119

 

Is the Quadro FX 770M the same as the 9600 except optimized for business applications?

 

This might help you.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-FX-770M.11707.0.html

 

They're basically the same thing. Just swap the drivers

 

How much better the the 9650M GT than the 9600M GT in real world performance?

 

If my memory serves me well, it is a somewhat noticeable difference in performance, but general consensus is that it isn't really worth the money to upgrade it from a 9600MGT. If you're going to upgrade, go for the higher ends such as 9700M GT, a 9800M GTS or higher since those will really be worth the buck.

 

I don't think the 9700M GT provides a noticable improvement either, since it only has 32 SPs and a 128 bit memory bus. The 9700M GTS on the other hand...

 

Yeah true. Well the point was that a 9650 upgrade wasn't really worth the money. If I were to upgrade personally I'd just get the bigger upgrade rather than a smaller one because what they charge on GPU upgrades is quite noticeable in budget.

I have a question, is the 9600M GT DDR2 a decent gaming card for light gaming? I read that it is a decent card, but now I'm starting to think we were talking about the GDDR3 version and the GDDR2 version is more or less a 8600M GT GDDR3.

Also if possible, could anyone equate it's performance in terms of desktop GPUs(the GDDR2 or the GDDR3 version). I'm not very well familiar with laptop GPUs but I'm more knowledgeable in desktop GPUs so a performance comparison would help me place it in my mind.

 

Either 9600m GT will be fine for light gaming. The DDR2 version would probably equate to a desktop 8600GT DDR2 whereas the DDR3 version would be closer to the 8600GT DDR3. Regardless, the 9600m GT DDR2 will play any game fairly smoothly at decent settings including Crysis at medium-low at 1280x800.

Btw, your sig says you've got an Athlon 3700+ at 3.66ghz?! And 6x25gb 5400rpm HDDs?! You sure those specs are right?

 

Okies, that helps me equate it better. So if I would want the equivalent of my desktop GPU, I would have to check the 9700 or something of the like? I'm jsut trying to weigh since the "laptop to desktop" conversion is still iffy for me lol. I know I can compare clock speeds and such but external factors ina laptop seem to influence overall performance9such as the actual size of the GPU versus a full sized card).

And yes, my sig is correct. I do have a 3700+ which is set at 2.2GHz but clocks at 3.66GHz equivalently for an intel CPU of the same generation. And technically speaking, I have 2x75Gb physical HDDs, but 6 virtual ones of 25Gb each so I could list either, just sounds cooler saying I have 6 lol XD

 

How does a 9600M GT perform in 3DMark06? I tested the FX770M and it scored 6023.

 

The 9600M GT (DDR2) got 3910 on 1280X1024.

 

Any GDDR3 benchmarks?

 

Thanks for the screenshot! Was wondering if FX770M was equal to 9600M as most people told me.

 

I just posted some videos on youtube using the 9600m gt ddr2. This is on the dv5t.

http://www.youtube.com/user/bolt4life619