9600M release date?

Anybody know when we can expect to see the 9600M? Hoping to upgrade from 8600M w/256MB 1GB Turbocache DDR2.

 

What's your notebook? The Dell? You can't upgrade it.


It should be coming by summer

 

actually you should be able to. you probably have to disassemble the whole case... if you can even find an individual 9600m for sale.

the first place to look would be here
http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/

and if it's even worth it.

 

The 8 series just came out, it won't be out until the end of summer. The desktop version isn't even out.

 

Except that Dell doesn't use standard MXM

 

actually the desktop 9600 is out.

 

Yeah, it was released like, today.

It's strange they are releasing the 9500M, 9600GT & the 9300M should come shortly. Stange pattern

 

Good luck getting that into your laptop.

 

My guess is it will come sometime towards the end of this year. I mean they just released the 8800m and since 9600m will be on par with that its not realistic to think they will release it any time soon.

 

Well, they just released the 8800GS, which is under the 9600GT.

ATI also released the HD 3650, which is slower than the HD 2600XT & the HD 3690 which is equal to the 8600GTS

 

They released the GF8800GS last year, it was just primarily Asia and Europe that had them though.

The first part depends alot on the memory, because a GDDR3 3650 can be as fast as the slow XT-GDDR3.

As for the second part of that I think you're confusing the HD3690 which is much more performant than the GF8600GTS with he HD3870 which is closer to the GF8600GTS winning and losing depending on the title, with the HD3870 excelling in the shader heavy titles like Oblivion and Crysis.

Look at this review with the HD3650 GDDR3 and the HD3690 along with the GF8800GS and GF8600GT/GTS, and the GTS may get close on occasion but it's definitely far from the HD3690's equal;
http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=2365&pageid=2350

Link starts at bungholiomarks, but look at the titles for the greater variability, unfortunately no Oblivion benchmark.

 

Stupid me. I should have posted what brand of laptop I have. I have the Acer 5920G best buy model which is MXM-II compatible. Supposedly the
9600M is MXM-II as well. Gamespot has a comparison of desktop GPUs. The 9600 GT is about the same quality as the 8800 GTS. Definitely better than 8600 GT.
Here's the link:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6186345/index.html?tag=result;title;0

Wonder what are the chances are of mobile GPUs following the same pattern?

Just wish I could find a release date though

 

Chances are we'll start seeing better mid-range mobile cards once Nvidia gets some competition. The Mobility HD3870 might just be it.

 

Nvidia did it to put something on the market to compete with ATI in the sub-$200 range. Until now if that was your budget your only option was ATI (realistically.. can you imagine buying an 8600GT(S) over a 3870? Hah).

 

The 9600 GT is out for desktop.
But the as for the 9 series for notebook that is going to be a wait for those higher number.
The 9300M GS/9500M GS are out for notebooks but they aren't any good.
You get some info from my like in my sig about this.
Man why don't just sticky my or some sort of about the 9 series.

 

oh, the benchmark I saw put the 8600GTS higher than, with 7.5k at 3dmark

 

Probably due to CPU, 3DMk06 is too CPU dependent, 3DMk05&03 less so. I think if you had those tests run with a CoreQuad running at 3+ghz you would've seen the scores closer to that you're expecting. And this shortfall may be reflected in CPU-bound games, but that should work both ways and if anything simply reduce the expressed differences more than favour one or the other card(s).

The thing is to compare games overall, since especially different 3D marks play better to different cards/properties even within an IHV/Mfr own lines, and especially for the GF8600 and HD2600 series, Bungholiomarks made those cards look far better than they turned out to be in actual gameplay.

I think 3Dmark is a great examination tool, but a terrible evaluation tool for comparing products.

 

even if it does come off, the mobo probably won't support it.

 

lol, in canada the 9600GT costs more than the 8800GT (which can be had for ~160-170) which easily smokes the 9600GT.

 

i cant see the 9600m released for laptop anytime soon, seeing as it is almost on parr with the 8800m, and the 8800 hasnt been out long, and costs a bomb, they will probably wait till 8800's stop selling as much.

 

the 9600GT is basically just a weaker version of the 8800GT. its all based on the g92 if i am correct...

i think they might have added some video feature that no one will use or notice to the 9 series also. but it doesn't support dx10.1!!!!

seeing as dx10 has any value at all anyway. im still on windows xp (dx9), as is the rest of the technically inclined.

 

The 9600 gt is based on other chip(g94), it has 64 shaders and a 256bit memory interface.
The dx10.1 seems to be a good thing, specially with antialiasing, it allows antialiasing with one less renderer pass than the dx10.0.

There is a 9650gs, which seems to be basically a renomed 8700m gt, since its a gs 9600 we can expect a good gt one, but probably slower than the desktop 9600gt and the 8800m gts.

 

I doubt I'll be upgrading my 8800m GTX for some time

 

To the Xth TIME, NVIDIA DOES NOT INCORPORATE DX10.1 INTO THE 9 SERIES! they do "only" run with dx 10. ATI is the ONLY (well, there are only two manufacturers so ) ones that fabricate grafic chips that are DX 10.1 Compatible!

 

Nobody said the 9 series support dx10.1

 

I'm using Vista, so I guess I'm...inclined toward what then? Hot women? Ok yeah, I like that. I use Vista because I'm inclined toward hot women.

Matrox, Intel, and VIA also make video cards (though Intel and VIA are IGP).

I think the next Intel IGP (x4500?) will support DX10.1, but it might just be DX10.

 

That's like saying the Ford Pinto supports the quarter mile.

 

erm i dont think the 9600m will be anything near 8800m seriously

 

The 9650m GT = 8700m GT so the 9600m GT != 8800m GT(S)(X)

 

That isn't necessarily true. Consider the fact that an 8800GT is more powerful in most cases than an 8800GTS (original) and also sometimes even the 8800GTX.

Are you basing your info off the card statistics or actual benchmarks or what? If the 9600m follows the same method as the desktop 9600, it should edge up into 8800m GTX territory in a few benchmarks. But then again, I haven't seen any actual data, so I'm just drawing parallels between mobile and desktop, which doesn't count anyway. So....nevermind.

 

I'm just going by the pure fact that nVidia isn't stupid enough to give more power to a lesser numbered card than a higher one. It's one thing to mess with the suffix (GT v. GTS) where naive customers won't know any better, it's a whole other to make the 9600 > 9650.

 

The desktop 9600 GT and 9800 GTX has been out for a while now.

Where have you been?

 

In all honesty it has only been about a month, and it was a VERY quiet launch because there wasn't all that much performance improvement.

 

People... seriously we are talking about an heavily OVERCLOCKED desktop 9600gt.. thats why its somewhere near the 8800gt, but when it comes to mobile generation i dont think you could overclock it enough to get to the 8800m performance