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    9700m GT or higher cards' specs are back on nVidia site

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Dreidel, Jul 5, 2008.

  1. Dreidel

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    I dunno, I'm a little worried about nV's designs.

    I know they've had recent issues with heat and greater than normal failure rates due to production problems according to their latest guidance, but is that big HSF really necessary?

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9800m_gt.html

    That's gonna be a heck of a big Notebook/Laptop to accommodate that !! :eek: ;)

    Just in case the link disappear here's the screen cap;

    http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1721/gf9800mgtte6.jpg

    On a serious note, nice to see 112 SPUs on the GTX so a nice little boost from the 8800.
     
  3. eleron911

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    So finally, the 9800M GTX is revealed with 112 SPs...
     
  4. Cheeseman

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    Hers your Geforce 9800 M GTX:
    [​IMG]
    Big indeed. The Toshiba Qosmio x305 gives the "portable notebook" a new name.
     
  5. brainer

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    whats the %&#$ point of 9800gt and 9800gts seriously? ...

    LOL at the desktop card image shown as 9800m gt ! ROFL

    EDIT: Crap.. it seems that the 9800GTX is a slight upgrade over the 8800GTX, the rest.. 8800GTS is still an equal :D , well that means we'll be playing some games on max for more time ^^
     
  6. zfactor

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    i still doubt the 9800gtx will blow away the 8800gtx by any means
     
  7. brainer

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    it wont. unless there is a game the 8800GTX cant PLAY then the 9800GTX will be able to RUN it
     
  8. Magnus72

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    Well the 9800m GTX will perform a little better in games like Crysis, Lost Planet that utilizes shaders, though we will see no wonder in terms of performance over a 8800m GTX. Surely there should be higher clocks. Though if the 9800m GTX is the same core as 8800m GTX it will probably run hotter due to more SP´s, thereby the 8800m GTX is probably the best overclocker between those too. Just a theory :)
     
  9. brainer

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    the differnce will be near nothing for the performance difference.. 2-4 FPS in each game? who really needs that.
     
  10. JCMS

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    The 9800M GT & 9800M GTS are the mobile 9600GT (and the 9700M GTS too, although it only has 48 shaders). What I find strange is that the 9800M GT ha 360Gflops and the 9800M GTS only 240. The 9800M GTX is only gonna be in big laptops like the Qosmio while the 9800M GT will be standard 17'' and be way cheaper.
    I look forward to see the 9800M GT compared to the 8800M GTS, as the G94 is more efficient shader to shader than the G92.
     
  11. eleron911

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    Well, 8800M GTX SLI plays Crysis on WUXGA at 25-30fps, so I`m good for a long time :D
     
  12. brainer

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    for very long time actually, till the GTX series drops to laptops, your SLI setup will be an equalative to the high end card.
     
  13. JCMS

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    Yup, and I doubt that's gonna happen until 45nm revision are there, maybe 55nm ones in big 17'' laptops. The Radeon 48xx could be good ones, but the 38xx for laptops aren't even on the market yet lol
     
  14. Magnus72

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    eleron 8800m GTX is still a high end card and especially SLI. A single 9800m GTX doesn´t stand a chance against 8800m GTX SLI. I am very interested to see how much heat these generate and if they overclock really good. I mean I can get my core up to 700 if I want by just overvolting slightly. Though no need to do that.
     
  15. Ahmed_p800

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    WoW, Nice!!

    I bet you all that the new 9800m-GTX is much better than the 8800m-GTX

    But you dont want to admit it (maybe you just bought a new lappy with 8800)

    Anyway....LOGIC

    Why the hell is 8800 much better than the 7950 and the 9800 is not better than the 8800??....ist because you said so??....then think again!

    Also WTF....the image for the 9800mGT looks like a desktop card!!!

    Dont you think so?!
     
  16. eleron911

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    IT WILL BE BETTER, it has 112SPs. But it will be better than the 8800M GTX as the 8800MGTX was compared to the GTS, or maybe a bit more.But that`s about it.
     
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    Em. Because the 9800M GTX seems to actually be based on the same GPU core as the 8800M GTX, namely the G92. Only the 9800M GTX seems to have a few more stream processors enabled. In comparison, the 8800M series is based off a completely new architecture than the 7950M series. The logical conclusion then is that the 7950M to 8800M transition will yield a large performance delta than the 8800M to 9800M transition.
     
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    hmmmmm same core... anyone thinking what i am.. a possible bios flash to the 9800 to enable the extra streams? ahh the days of the old 9800 and the 9800 pro... used to be nice to flash the cheaper card over (on desktops of course)
     
  19. brainer

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    Dear Ahmed.

    we arent trying to be fanboys here or something, 7 series was bases on vertex and pixel shaders. the total of the 7950GTX is 32 SPs, where the 8800GTX is 96. and thats a leap, but SLI 7950GTX can still catch up. and that was 64SP difference between the 2 Generations, now how do you expect an 18 SPs to double the performance on a previous Gen card the STILL USES the same technology? the difference will NOT be noticed in 90% of games

    and @ eleron not quite.. the difference between the 8800GTS and 8800GTX (which is about 10% as i heard by users) is causes by 30SPs. now if we try to Use Ahmed's LOGIC, then lets do some maths, the difference is about 5% between the 8800GTX and 9800GTX caused by the increase of the SPs to 12 more. which is nothing compared to the 30Sps between the 8800GTS and GTX, get my point?

    Chaz has closed previous threads about the 9800GTX because of the misleading information about users stating that the 9800GTX will doubt the 8800GTX's performance. causing people to do the wrong buys. so please dont let him close this one, Thank you.
     
  20. Audigy

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    Bah no way, they are laser cutted, no way of reversing that...

    The only possibility was bricking your card, becoming an 8800M GTX paper weight version :p
     
  21. Magnus72

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    Misleading, well anyone that are more into tech would know that 16 SP´s won´t make any huge difference. What they would have to do is to have the Core set to at least 700 MHz that would make a noticable difference. But you know what our 8800m GTX´s overclocks like crazy, there is no fanboy behind any statement here.
     
  22. cathy

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    Well it's still a boost from the old 8800M GTX anyway.

    Mmm...and it looks like the 8600M GT won't be obsolete as quickly seeing how everything weaker than the 9700M GTS only has 32 stream processors.
     
  23. brainer

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    well as i said. Everyones 8m GPU will lost more than expected :D
     
  24. xxERIKxx

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    so how does the 9700m gt compare to the 8600m gt? i was wondering because best buy is junking my 5920g and the asus g50m x1 is in the same price range im thinking of getting it.
     
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    For 3dmark, a GDDR3 8600m gt scores ~3.8k and the 970m gt 6.2k according to notebookchecks. The 9700M GT should be similar to the desktop 8600GTS
     
  26. brainer

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    it maybe right.. but again dont go to Notebookcheck please :D it posts that a 9800GTS out performs 8800GTX. and with its score on notebookcheck, its almost Identical to SLI 7950GTXs
     
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    if that score is right it sounds like a nice upgrade.
     
  28. KGann

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    I saw that too... something is definitely wrong there...
     
  29. icram

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    Which notebooks have the 9700M GTS (the GTS is better than the GT, right?)
     
  30. sujinge9

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    no, this time nvidia messed up the namings, the gt is better then the gts
     
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    Wrong, only the 9800m gt is better than the 9800m gts. The 9700m gts has 48sp and the 9700m gt has 32 sp. The 9700m gts > 9700m gt
     
  32. eleron911

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    Which makes matters all the more confusing. I think Nvidia CEOs are drunk.
     
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    At least they know how to party?
     
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    i'm curious about how much a notebook with a ATI 3870 gpu will cost, heard it outperforms 8800GTS.
     
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    In terms of the 8 generation, how good is the 9700m GTS? On par with the 8700m or 8800m GTS, or somewhere in between?