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    9800M performance not what it should be.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by _bare, Feb 27, 2010.

  1. _bare

    _bare Notebook Consultant

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    I have an Asus G50VT, specs are in my sig, simular in every way to this guy:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=407835

    He does not say what drivers he using but my 3D Mark06 score is significantly lower than his. I have tried the following drivers and received these results:

    Driver Score
    195.62 8530

    186.82 8376

    186.81 8335


    So far, it seems that the 186.81 gets the best performance in game. I understand that a few marks doesnt make a difference but according to the results of the reviewer in the link above I am around 500 points shy of his score of 8975.


    Anyone have any ideas as to why my score is this much lower?



    Thanks,



    Adam



    EDIT: After doing further research it seems my scores are about right, I dont know what this guy did to achieve those scores, maybe an overlock.
     
  2. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    if u have stock clocks , then ur results are allright... he's using the built in overclocking feature which makes the score higher...
     
  3. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    thats about right as im getting 9490 with the 9800GT
     
  4. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

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    Overclock that thing and you should get a fair bit higher.
     
  5. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Also, not all components are created equal. Some will just simply score better because--all other things being equal--they're blessed with awesome.
     
  6. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    9800m GS stock:
    8140 3dmark06

    hit optimal OC with nvidia system tools (sig clocks):
    9171 3DMarks
     
  7. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

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    Like EIement's G51? :p
     
  8. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Oh, don't bring that up. It was a freak of nature.

    Or die processing.
     
  9. _bare

    _bare Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for all the responses, my clock speeds are at stock settings so that would explain it. I just assumed he would post that he OCed his GPU before stating the benchmarks, oh well....Im now using DOX 185.85 and my benchmarks are about the same but in game performance is where I think it should be so Ill quit obsessing.
     
  10. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    What is this about?
     
  11. Benjamin Wassink

    Benjamin Wassink Notebook Geek

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    Please dont use 3dmark06 to benchmark gpu preformance or drivers, test in game (fps) or with a good stress test demo like Unigine tropics! Check your max gpu temp in gpu-z, better save than sorry.
     
  12. _bare

    _bare Notebook Consultant

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    You can make valid assessments regarding performance using synthetic benchmarks if there is a large net gain or loss, other than that I dont go by them.

    When making conclusive assessments of a drivers performance I use in game comparisons, as I said, and that is why I am using Dox drivers at the moment although Im watching my temps and they seem to jump around a lot with his drivers. My idle goes anywhere from 40C to 55C and that doesn't seem right so Im going to change to Nvidia's 186.81 if this continues.
     
  13. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    Note,if your scores were rediculously lower (say 2000-3000 points) then yah something would be wrong. 500 points is not worth worrying about... processor upgrade/oc or gpu oc will do that.
    Also, make sure the benchmark is run at the same resolution.
    (defaults to 1280x1024, but not all G50VTs have the resolution to do that so some use external screens and other just post the 1280x768 score.)

    3dmark06 is fine for baselines as long as the processor bias is accounted for (200points for each 200MHz rank) and the resolution is the same.

    There are FEW game benchmarks that are standardized... thus for comparison very few of them are valid for anything.
     
  14. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    there's been a powermixer problem with all windows 7 drivers especially in 195 series drivers... to solve the problem , try the fix in the below thread... my idle temps are in high 40s to low 50... .

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=456313

    and this is actually cooler with 195.62 drivers compared to 186.81 drivers... get the 195.62 drivers and this fix...
     
  15. _bare

    _bare Notebook Consultant

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    My idle temps are similar to yours but Im running Vista and as far as I know it doesn't suffer from this.
     
  16. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    download riva tuner and see how ur clocks change... if they keep on going up and down due to hardware acceleration , which u don't need in some cases , powermixer fails... without this fix , for me in windows 7 , the clocks wouldn't stay constant even when there was no hardware acceleration...d
     
  17. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    I know I would get around 7000 in 3dmark06 with my 8800m GTS with a 1.6Ghz Core 2, your right about where you should be. Remember 06 has a fairly large CPU component so upgrading would net you a higher score.

    Wont do too much in real world though.
     
  18. busa

    busa Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey bare will you be overclocking your machine to get faster speeds?
     
  19. _bare

    _bare Notebook Consultant

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    I will not; I received this G50VT after sending my G1S in twice for a GPU/Motherboard replacement, due to overheating and eventually death, so Im a little paranoid about heat as it is; although after seeing some of the nice guides on the forums I did think about it...but briefly.

    Thanks narsnail, I've concluded that it is a decent score but at first I was a little unsure.
     
  20. lidowxx

    lidowxx Notebook Deity

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    8.3-8.5k 3dmark06 is about right for 9800M GS at default clocks when coupled with a mid/low ranged duo core CPU, there is nothing to worry about.

    If you are unsatisfied with its performance and concerned about GPU overheating, you can always OC the CPU quite a bit, with direct console or SETFSB(if you want OC more than direct console can), in many CPU-bound games, you will notice some nice performance jump.