A Quick Trip To Any Store Shows That PC Gaming Is Dying...

$5,000 - $10,000?! thats too much

 

^ you can spend $1000 and have the same grpahics as a PS3, NOT $5000, you are sorely mis informed.

and did you jus completely disregard my post? that game does not run at 1080P, it runs at 720P and can be upscaled.

 

If I sit in front my LCD I see every detail so I need to play in 2560 X 1600 with 16xAA so no $1000 computer will do that with crysis and most of the games. If I sit 10 meters away from a 65' 1080p LED, it gives me the same graphics to my eyes and It only costs me $400. It doesnt matter if up scales or not, My eyes are cheated and it works, u cant do that with a pc

 

Actually I bet you could, and I bet it would look better. My $1400 laptop could do that.

 

$5,000-$10,000? Where have you been buying your computers? Apple? A buddy of mine bought a desktop for $650 with an 8800 GT just the other day =/ Might want to think about what you're typing before just making random stuff up.

 

I dont think u understand what I m saying. u can buy a $650 pc but ti will suck. Unless a 8800Gt is a good card to u. I said it before. If I sit in front of my LCD and I play a PC game its really easy to pick up the detail differences. Even if u have a 65' LED, u have to sit far away and even then it will look amazing, and thats on a console. The point is. If u have a pc, u need to play on high details for the ultimate experience. With a console u can do that much cheaper and it will look just as good. Crysis is still not playable at 60fps at 2560x1600 with 16xAA and thats with an exterme quad overclocked to 4Ghz and a triple 280GTX.

 

A $650 pc will not suck..... It can actually be very good. A 8800gt is a better card than is in the 360 or PS3....

 

You can play on high details at about $1000, i dont think you understand. A GTX 260 or a HD 4870 will max pretty much everything at high resolutions. You could build a $1000 desktop with either or included. The 7800GTX which is a three generation old dekstop card was what the PS3 was based off of, and mid range modern GPU will outclass it.

 

1) Yes, an 8800 can max out Crysis in DX9 at least
2) Isn't the average FPS for PS3 games 30fps? Pretty sure it is... so that's moot.
3) Consoles can't even REACH the resolution you JUST mentioned.
4) You can hook up a PC to a TV as well.....
5) Can consoles even do any AA? Let alone 16xAA?

 

yes but if u sit far away from your screen u can really pick up the differance between 30fps and 60 that much. 8800GT will max out crysis in only 1280x800 with the average 60fps and high details. U cant do DX10 in xp without tweaks so it can do that only in high. Moreover even a small 20' lcd nowadays have a higher res then 1280x800 so there is a big lost in the quality department. Consoles can reach 1080p, sometimes upscaled, sometimes not. But if u have a proper screen and sit far away which u would, there is very little difference. U can hook up a pc to your tv for gaming but why? consoles can over so much and more for half the cost, and your electric bill will be lower

 

But to be fair PCs are capable of A LOT more than consoles are at the moment. So in this case, for $150 more, you'll be able to play the games at 30+ FPS with better visual results than a console, use any kind of controller you want, use a TV if you want, run any application you want, set up servers if you want, use mods if you want, and the thousands of other random things you can do with a PC that you can't do with a console... for $150.

But really if we want to nit pick with the price... let's just add the price of that TV with the price of the console... now which is cheaper?

 

Yeah I m not arguing that a console is a better machine than a pc. the point is that people love a closed environments. Pc can tell u the time, but you dont buy a pc for the purpose of it being a clock. U buy a separate clock. The same will happen to video games in the future. u wont be buying a pc to game but a console. People are stupid and just want something compact and easy. Thats were console come in. PC can offer a much better gaming experience but thats costs and most people wont even use 1/10 of the pc power except when they game. So they buy a $400 console and have that experience for much less. + u dont have to upgrade a console, that $650 pc will be way outdated in half a year, when new resource hogs titles show up, cause developers dont care about optimization cause u can now buy a quad or triple SLI.

 

I dont see why people try to kid themselves that PC games are not slowing at all.
And I also dont see why people are saying you have to add a 50" HDTV to the console price.

I game on a 19" monitor and sit closer to it, as if it were a PC, the pixels per inch is a hell of a lot better than almost all HDTVs out there, and the total price should be no more that $600 and that setup should last me ~4 years.

If I wanted decent gaming on a PC I would need to spend around $1000 every couple of years I think.

So I now have the option to have gaming availiability for $600 for console or $2000 for PC, oh, real tough choice there.

Thats my super mini rant thats barley account for one.
If you ask me anything I probably wont reply because I'm definantly not visiting this thread again. Goodbye.

 

How do you know this when Crysis Warhead hasnt even launched yet? According to the previews and the devs, it will look better and run on older hardware much better than the already released crysis

 

BTW, to everyone saying that you need $3k-$5k rigs to run games on PC, if you want to max out practically every game, all you need to spend is $1k. A PC is something you need these days, so getting a better one for the price of a console that'll run most games maxed and be faster for regular stuff is a pretty good deal. If anyone's wondering, I spent $1650 for the desktop in my sig around 7 months ago.

 

sp you bought a 19" especially....that adds $200 to your $400 console. your already 3/4 of the way to buying a superior pc.

so you get heaps of racing games....heaps of sports games.....and a bunch of advanture and rpg games.........so your 14 and play little kiddy games right?

and you just said its 1k every couple of years then you try convince your self its 2k for a new pc.........

and for the record how much did you spend on a desktop? coz i am pretty sure you own one of those.

but your not going to reply......hmmmmm maybe i am wasting my time on you.

 

Assassin´s Creed at 1080p yes native right? When can people realize that there is very few games that both consoles can actually output 1980x1080 native res in games.

Many people complain about bad performance. Well how about optimizing "your system". My XPS M1730 runs games great, same with my desktop. You know why I have done optimizations to windows and keep my drivers up to date all the time. This alone can yield a large performance increase.

And who needs 16xAA at 2560x1600 when you doesn´t even need at 1920x1200. Little details? Oh so those little details isn´t visible at 1280x1024 for example? The game still outputs every single detail at any res you play.

 

I definately wasnt gonna read every post, so if this has been said, sry.


PC gaming isnt going anywhere anytime soon. Why? MMO's


Lets see your console connect to a game like EVE online and play with over 30,000 people on one dedicated server. Bet it can't.

Not dissing consoles tho, not at all. I'm a PC gamer, but also own a Wii and a PS3 (only reason I dont own a 360 is because most 360 titles are already out for PS3 as well, and if they arent, they are out for PC)

They all really have their own purposes, but to say PC gaming is dying because of these newer, better next gen. consoles coming out with amazing graphics just shows how subjective you are to the entire topic. It doesnt matter how good a new consoles graphics are, or how cheap the console is, because garunteed by the time that console hits the market, the computer is already capable of performance and graphics 10 times better than that console, thats jsut the way it works. And that makes people want to dish out the 2-3 thousand dollars (U.S.) it may cost to build a super rig. In the end, you can always upgrade the pc, you cant upgrade a console (as of now, at least GPU wise)

bottom line, computer gaming isnt going anywhere, its here to stay.


~poseign

 

Final Fantasy XI: Online... PS2 and XBox 360.

Played it on my PS2 for 4 years... hated it when I had to switch to PC because I really liked the gamepad + keyboard setup I had on it.