A few questions on X1300 and hyper memory

First time poster here, I've spent the past few days looking through the threads on here trying to find some answers to my questions about the x1300 but no joy.

I am looking at getting a new laptop, the Acer 1652ZWLMI, which has a X1300 512MB graphics. The little that I have been able to find on the net (why is it so hard to get info on these cards!) is that it has 128MB dedicated memory, and the rest is made up by the hyper memory. However a few things still puzzle me about the card.

1. With hyper memory, can it be switched off? Is it possible just to let the graphics card use its dedicated memory only, as I don't really want the graphcis card eating into my system memory.
2. Does anyone know for sure the clocks on this card, I looked in one of Meaker's posts and he said 450 on the core, but is this right? Seems very high, wouldn't that put it above the X600 card in terms of performace seeing as they both have 4pixel/2vertex setup?


Any help in this matter is much appreciated, I just want somethign that is a slightly better option for gaming than my current Acer 3613 with Intel 915GM graphics.

Thanks guys.

 

New processes, new tweaked cores, the x600 was nothing new just a 9600 with pci express bolted on instead of AGP. The mr9700 had a clock of 450, of course these clocks I am not sure on, but it should be around x600 performance. As for turning off hypermem I do not know but constantly stealing nearly 400mb of ram for a card that wont even use any of that 400mb seems an utter waste and stupid marketing trick. Hopefully its a bios option. If it is set it 0. In fact all people with hypermemory should set it to 0 since it should only take what it needs anyway.

 

I hope this is the case, as if the X1300 is around the X600 performance then I may well have to get myself a new laptop Of course if HyperMemory cannot be switched off, then its a major negative in my buying decision. I don't see the point of tacking on hyper memory if you have dedicated memory for the graphics card, as you say its a stupid maketing trick.

 

how do you switch the memory allocation?

 

Well I guess the place to check would be the bios hopefully its an option there, if not then you would have to resort to vid card bios flashing or something but to be honest I would not go there.

I have never had anything that fed off the system mem all the time (agp appature was the same, it only used what it needed, the size you set was a maximum). So I don't know where the option is, call your system help line if your really stuck.

 

If you ran Graphics intensive games would the hyper memory almost nothing

 

If you're playing a game where it uses a lot of texture memory, HyperMemory can come in handy - normally, the system would store the excess textures on the hard disc and then swap them in when needed, and that is very slow. However, with HM, it is stored in the main memory, and accessing that is far faster than accessing the hard drive. So, it can smoothen out gameplay, not a bad thing at all.

 

Thanks a ton and do you happen to know if the x1400 has hypermemory. if so do you know how high it goes?

 

All ATI PCI-express video cards can have HM. Normally, if you see a card advertised with HM, for ex: "256MB ATI X1400 HyperMemory", then it is (most of the time) 1/2 dedicated and 1/2 shared, in this case, 128MB + 128MB.

Chaz

 

thanks for the clearup!

 

Normally its just allocated when needed which is why having any set static amount makes no sense.

 

How do you find your X600 for gaming Meaker (if you game that is)? What games and res/detail level do u normally play at?

 

I find it quite good, depends on the game, I can run counterstrike source/UT with 2xaa 4xaf, later games are usually at medium details 1024x768 (BF2).

 

That's pretty decent. I installed Q3 and Jedi Knight 2 on my laptop yesterday to see how bad the graphics performance on this laptop was. I was actually quite suprised, it ran both games at 1024x768 detail levels on high. Obviously most gamers would laugh at that, but it was more than enough for me. If I can get a laptop that lets me play HL2/Source games at 1024x768 at medium detail then I'm more than happy to be honest.

Too much emphasis on graphics these days, a game doesn't have to have 1280x1024 with AA and AF to be good. There use to be such a thing as an immersive storyline!!

A guy over at notebookforums has a Dell E1505 with an X1300, he is going to get back to me later over the clock speeds and hypermemory issue. Will post back here when he does.


edit: oops, seems my old sig was over the forum limits. My apologies Mr Moderators, it has now been resized to forum guidelines.

 

Right, guy from the other forum got back to me with quite a bit of infomation for me, so i'll share it all on here for you, since there is little info on the card. Remember though this is a Dell machine, and they have a nice/nasty habit of altering their ATI GPUs for their notebooks, but this should be a guide to go by.

Clocks are Core 389 and Memory 342

3DMark06 - 547
3DMark05 - 1259

This particular card has 64MB dedicated, and 64MB shared apparently, so the 128MB dedicated version should be a bit faster right?

 

In 06 hell yeah, the minimum recommended is 256mb, its going to get an artifically high score in 06 compared to the x600 since it gets points from the SM3 tests, which to be honest I cant see the x1300 being able to use. The x1600 on the other hand is definatly a big step up from the x600.

 

I get just under 1000 (986) in 3DMark06 with my overclocked X700 256MB dedicated GDDR2. With my new drivers I should be able to surpass 1k.

The X1400 is designed to replace the X600, and I think that it does very well . . anyone know what sort of 3DMark06 scores it gets? The X1300 isn't doing bad, but as said it does get higher scores than it normally would thanks to SM 3.0 support.

 

Since its a slightly oced x1300 not much different.