A8-5545 or i3-4200u better for gaming? (with integrated graphics)

Okay, I know both are a joke. I (thankfully) have a Geforce GTX 680m in my best notebook, but need something for the kitchen...but even still, I'd like it to run games as well as possible, just in case I need to use it...

I *think* the Haswell i3 is better? But I'm not sure... They're both ULV CPUs, the Intel has 20 of their cores, the AMD 384 at a low clock speed. Technically the GPUs are HD 4400 vs. Radeon 8510G.

Any idea?

EDIT: I accidentally was using the i5 model number. I'm actually looking at the Haswell ULV i3.

 

AMD by about 20-25% better performance. But in general either will play simpler games at 720p and likely low to medium details at best. Don't expect BF4 or CoD or Splinter Cell or anything.

 

Oh wow, the AMD chip would actually be that much better?!? Even though it's also a ULV too? I was honestly thinking it would be the other way around if anything.

Thanks! I don't mind supporting AMD when I can anyway!

And thanks for the warning too. I'm not expecting much, but still, 20-25% ain't nothing to sneeze at!

 

Yes, Intel CPU is faster, AMD GPU is faster, take your pick...

Which laptops are you considering?

 

Two Dells around the $500 mark. Ruled out most everything else for a variety of reasons.

I'm seeing A10 Richland blowing away the HD 4400, but the ULV A8-5545 can really beat it too? (for games?) Sorry, I'm just so surprised...going to pull the trigger soon lol

 

I don't think is is a i3-4200u. Are you talking about the i5-4200u?

Going by the Notebookcheck benchmarks for the Intel HD4400 and AMD 7600G (they don't have any benchmarks for the 8510G in the A8-5545), the i5 should be faster for gaming. Note that the A8-5545 will be up to ~31% faster in GPU limited scenarios and 12.5% faster in CPU limited scenarios than the 7600G benchmarked, but when adjusted for the clock speed differences, it is still slower than the i5-4200u.

 

Whoops, sorry, I'm talking about the i3-4010u, not that i5. I'd looked at a notebook with that too and got the numbers mixed up.

It would be the A8-5545m, or the i3-4010u.

And good catch finding the last gen version of that A8! The only difference with the new one is it can hit slightly higher clocks, I guess.

Yeah, that's showing the 4400 as 9% faster. I'm not sure what hardware they're comparing exactly, but it's showing the 4400 as much as 50% faster than the 7600. This new chip's probably a bit faster, but...I guess this means a Haswell i3 beats it for games?

 

Well, the i5 has ~50% more CPU performance than the i3, and I suspect the reason why the i5 is faster than the A8 in many games is because of the faster CPU. So I dunno. ¯\_(ツ _/¯

 

LOL, yeah, I'm baffled. Well, maybe I'll just go with the i3 as I'd rather have the 17.3" screen that notebook uses versus the 15.6 in the other one.

I really appreciate you guys' help and thoughts on this! I know it's kind of silly thinking this through this much on a low end system, but hey.

 

No, all valid questions. Good luck, hope it works out for you! I was also looking at the 7600G results, same part pretty much.

The HD 4600 is actually a decent GPU, but 4400 is a bit underwhelming IMHO.

 

I'm curious what the HD 4400's clocks can do on an i3 versus an i5/i7. Occurs to me that if they're really targeting the same power usage on all three, but the i3 can't overclock the CPU portion, the GPU portion should stay at higher clocks more often...but maybe they don't really let it do that.

It would be fun to do a comparison of like all Intel and AMD's integrated parts, see how they really compare, and see what they can actually run!

Someone on Youtube was actually running Skyrim on an i5 HD 4400 part! Low settings and medium resolution I guess, but at least on Youtube it looked pretty good.

 

I did that a couple times, but I guess time for a refresher I guess:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ghtweights-amd-7660g-vs-intel-hd4000-igp.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...9-amd-e-350-e-450-intel-i3-2367-compared.html