AMD 7970m vs GTX 680m

Quoting me there made me realize I didn`t write everything I was thinking making it come across wrong by writing :

when I meant

 

Maybe you should go and revisit their homepage again? Here I`ll show you the way

Articles : Introducing The GeForce GTX 680M Mobile GPU - GeForce

No worries

Sorry, but that guy have been posting stuff without anything to back it up for a long time now and I just had to vent out. All cooled down now

I DO know that for many the 680M price is too much, especially considering the 7970M is a behemoth on its own and sufficient for a lot of people. I also know that some people prefer Nvidia and is willing to pay for it. I just tried to balance it out with what I wrote but came off pretty angry. Sorry.

 

Cloudfire, the way i see it is mugs buy a gtx 675m or 670m over a 7970m they will buy the 680m at whatever cost lol as the 7970m was over double those gpu's performance per watt and still people went for nvidia despite those gpu's having no power for 3d gaming lol.

I am impressed by the 7970m.

 

Yeah I know. I think they thought about upgrading when the 700M/8000M series comes along since the 675M isn`t that bad of a performer. Not everyone had the time to wait for the 7970M to get shipped out again or the 680M to be released. To each of its own

 

Wasn't Anandtech suppose to post his 680m review after the Nvidia's announcement today ?

 

Nope, they were waiting to release the article describing the 680M details, clocks, memory clocks, etc since Nvidia told them to wait for a certain deadline.

Its kinda of a review, but read it with a truckload of salt since they results is from Nvidia`s own testing

Notebookcheck is suppose to recieve a sample this week btw. God knows if that is correct but we really need real review to debunk or confirm what Nvidia have been telling us

AnandTech - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M: Kepler GK104 Goes Mobile

 

680m seems powerful but what if the 7970m gets their proper drivers? Will this be on par with the 680m?

 

Hopefully so... One can only assume both GPUs will improve over time with maturing drivers.

 

Anandtech`s Jarred thinks the 680M will be 10% faster than 7970M
I`m saying 15%. Thats my final word about 680M. Now I will await the reviews

 

30% in BF3 seriously hurts team red. That's the main reason I bought this laptop.

 

+1. I'm really eager to see better driver support from AMD to rectify this.

 

10%-15% average is not worth 300 dolars to me.
If you are an extreme enthusiast you can buy 2 7970m in crossfire for the price of one 680m (certain resellers have that option).

Ps: i don't know how much the 7970m costs stand alone.

 

betven 500 and 600 hundred

 

plus just look the the ability of the 7970m, look at my sig its a killer! The OC potential is insane

 

that is as a kit with heatzink

 

I mean if 7970m develops all kinds of problems along the way of my ownership I would rather pay the £300 premium and go for 680m. (That's if 680m is 100% more reliable/longer lasting than 7970m)

p.s How do I make my specs visible under my posts like many of you do. Do you Copy&Paste it everytime or is it set in settings?

 

I am going to avoid wild speculation at this point lol.

Yes it will have turbo boost and yes you can bet Nvidia used it in their tests, no it is not cheating and yes its a valuable feature..... Just not for an enthusiast who clocks their own stuff.

Also Observer where do you buy your crystal balls? How on earth can you make a prediction like that?

 

I don't want it to happen either man. It's just that everyone I spoke to at the Live Chat of custom laptop companies said.

 

How can anyone know what will happen? Seriously. If they are talking about the clevo cards that was an external component that's been found and fixed lol.

Sounds like you have been listening to people talking out of their rear ends.

Oh and Cloud, I look forward to pitting your 680M vs my 7970M, it will be an interesting comparison. I hope you are going to get one ASAP.

 

Okay man. What would you recommend? 7970m or 680m?

 

If budget is an issue, stick with the 7970M and put the money to work in other areas of the system.

 

So in this current stage of technology, AMD or Nvidia are same in terms of stability?

 

Pretty much IMO having run both. I've had minor issues with both of them but nothing world shattering. I'm comparing my 5870 mobility experience with my 560M and 570M experience.

There is a reason I laugh in the face of anyone who calls me a fanboy.

 

Still trying to figure out which laptop to get
Alienware, Sager or MSI. Not easy

 

If this is the case, the 680m could already be showing its OC limits.. and that's in a biased benchmark..

ok I'll stop speculate now and wait for more neutral benchmarks

 

For a 15" notebook, get the Sager NP9150. For a 17" laptop with excessive gimmicks, get the Alienware or the Sager for a professional look, the MSI for the mid-ground aesthetic appeal.

 

I'm getting the m17x ;D

Sent From My Rooted EVO 3D

 

Hmz, if I was looking at a 17" machine, the alienware with the 120hz panel would be my choice.

 

Would the difference between the standard 60Hz panel and the 120Hz even be noticeable? If so, then in what way?

 

Well in 2d you are getting up to twice the fps displayed which in games like first person shooters makes for a more fluid experience.

The display can only show as many FPS as the refresh rate.

 

Before I got my M18x, I had a M17x R3 with the 120Hz display. I found it to be brighter and more vivid. Not to mention what Meaker pointed out.

 

I'm aware of that. But given the limitations of the human eye, any "fluid experience" would be a mere illusion over 60FPS anyway...

 

First of all it's better for your eyes health. More hertz you have, less screen flickering you get, because it represents complete reconstruction of the screen image more quickly. And second is that any animation on your screen is slightly smoother. That's why many pro gamers are using old school CRT monitors which supports high refresh rate. Especially players who are playing most of all online shooters like counter-strike, to get accurate and smooth mouse movements. But now there are plenty of LCD monitors with 120 hertz, so CRT is almost useless these days.

 

False. Seriously.

You can do side by side comparisons if you like (which I have done before).

 

Yeah 120 Hz screen sounds very tempting.
I don`t like the alienware keyboard though, but perhaps it is something to get used to. Sager looks very good in my opinion but I also heard good things about Alienware. MSI only have 1 fan, I want two, so I think I may rule that brand out

 

not to mention the 120HZ screen is brighter something really important for a lot of people like me

 

The main advantage besides 3D is its 2D use when watching films. Movies nowadays are shot in 24fps (23.98/23.976) and when viewed on a 60Hz screen, the frames have to have a 3:2 pulldown applied to it ie first frame thrice, second frame twice, third three times, fourth twice giving an uneven refresh of the frames resulting in a small amount of stutter. On a 120Hz screen, each frame is even distributed @5 refreshes per frame allowing a smoother flow. In the cinema, films are shown an a 24Hz projector so watching it on something that distributes the frames evenly is how the film should be watched.

 

Surely the fluidity of scenes is dependant on the frame rates relationship to the screens refresh rate? i.e. whole number fractions of the screens refresh rate are smoother than anywhere inbetween.

Or are you comparing 60 fps on a 60 hz screen to 60 fps on a 120 hz screen?

 

Well, I guess it's just one of those things that I'd have to see it to believe it...

 

Well 120Hz is out of the picture for me when I thought about it since I can`t use the IGP or Optimus with it. Optimus is a must for me

 

The eye is not a digital device, there is no fixed frame rate, but at the extreme pilots in a dark room can identify what plane is shown to them even if the image is shown for 1/10000th of a second.

 

update, just broke 6900 in 3dmark with my 7970m, someone already beat me to 7k, cant wait to see how easy the 680m can do this

 

Which bring me to the obvious question: Would every pilot be capable of the same? Should that minuscule difference really mean anything at all?

 

Ya 120hz screens are worth the money if the hardware can full use it.

I have a 120hz LED tv and if I pop in a blu-ray, its pure bliss. On my older LCD tv (60hz), it still looks amazing, but the colors and picture are just that much clearer on a 120hz screen.

BUT (and a big but), on a PC, let a lone a laptop where battery power is a concern a 120hz screen is not worth it in my opinion. The small stature of the screen doesn't do it justice at all.

 

What is optimus as I'm looking St getting the 3d screen

Sent From My Rooted EVO 3D

 

Actually that's not entirely true.

If you play back a movie reel @ say 12 frames per second it will look like the picture is stuttering. If you play the same movie @ 50 fps, it will look blurry.

Try it.

 

The ability to switch between dedicated GPU (higher performance) and integrated GPU (longer battery life).

 

What I was referring to was the fact that 24 fps does not divide into 60Hz evenly but divides into 120Hz nicely meaning that every frame gets shown for equally as long.

I'm not going to go into the eye framerate debate. The example I give is the benefit of the 120Hz display in an everyday scenario.

 

A computer with Optimus shuts down the GPU when you are doing light stuff, like watching movies, surfing the web, doing office work, thus saving power and you get a lot longer battery time plus the most important feature, you get a quieter notebook.

With Optimus everything goes through the IGP and the IGP displays stuff on the screen. Notebooks with 120Hz screen, the IGP is not connected to the screen therefor Optimus will not work

 

Look ill lay it down. Movies use motion blur to hide their low fps, you can still see it with a panning shot though. With fast paced fps games though the images are 100% crisp and there are lots of rapid moves. Therefore for these types of games a high refresh rate helps. Done.