AMD Radeon 5650m vs NVidia Geforce GT 555m

How do these card compare in speed overall @ 1600x900 resolution gaming?

 

short answer, 555M>>5650M. Don't know exactly how much faster 555M is, but the difference is quite huge.

 

555 should be comparable to a 5870M. I had a 5650, it was ok. I could play world of warcraft at 1366x768 and almost all settings on high with good fps 30-60fps. I however always felt i needed more power then a 5650.

If i were you i would try to get one more step up. 6670 or a geforce 555. My 5650 did overclock pretty well, but i never played games with it overclocked. It also ran very cool in my 15" gateway -- under full load around 60C

 

Well for one you are wrong the GT 555m tries to achieve what the 5850m DDR3 equipped could (and that is tries, it cant reach it, the good 5850m is equipped with GDDR5 and that one is miles ahead)

The GT555m is still the better card for a considerable amount, as you said, the difference is something around 15-30%

The 6670m doesnt exist. its 6630m<6650m<6730m<6750m<6770m

and the 6770m can beat the GT 555m by what amount we dont yet, but guesstimation is something around 10%

 

As what Mr. MM said above, your first statement is totally incorrect. The 555M is a pretty impressive card against the 5650M but it is not way in heck in the league of the 5870M, more or less even in the league of the GTX 460M. It still lacks the ROP's and the use of GDDR3 VRAM that pushes it still behind the pack of the 5870M/460M territory.

 

How do the two cards 6770m/6550m fare against the 555m?

 

The 6770M is on par with the 555M with its better SP efficiency under the new architecture and GDDR 5 VRAM. The 6550M might be lacking from the 555M due to being a rebadged 5650M.

 

Alright, I was asking because I was wondering about the performance of the new Llano APU's which are said to perform as well as a 6770m.

It'll be very interesting when they are released to see some benchmarks, we desperately need some more competition in mid/high-end segment!

Edit: Seems like I've mixed up the desktop APUs with the mobile version.

edit2: After reading some more it seems like the IGP will be 6620m which is comparable to a 5650m.

 

Specifically, the 6770M and 555M will beat the 6550M/5650M by 40 to 50 percent.

 

I never had a geforce 555, i did have a 5650 and it was weak.

As quoted from notebookcheck:

"GPU Performance

The GeForce GT 555M's graphics performance should satisfy most users. It can't quite reach the rival model from AMD, the Radeon HD 6850M (5232 points, Acer Aspire 7750G) with 4999 points, but in return, the very popular GeForce GT 540M is surpassed by 41% (3551 points, Schenker XMG A501). Now we'll take a look at the 3DMark 11 (1280x720) GPU score, where the GeForce GT 555M clearly places itself in front of the GT 540M (897 points) with 1146 points. At the same time is positions itself behind the Radeon HD 6850M (1480 points). Unigine Heaven 2.1 Benchmark (1280x1024, high, normal tessellation) opposingly favors the Nvidia graphics card. While the GeForce GT 540M reaches 13.3 fps and the Radeon 6850M reaches 14.9 fps, the GeForce GT 555M achieves 17.3 fps."

An ATI 5870M has 800 stream processors, DDR5 128bit memory.
Geforce 555M has 144 cuda cores, 192bit memory ddr3.

Its my understanding that 1 nvidia cuda core = about 8 ati stream processors

Again, i never said the geforce was faster, i simply said they were COMPARABLE. plz get off my back , k ? unless you post benchmarks of identical systems with different video cards showing 5870 beating a geforce 555M by over 25% Then i feel my original post is still valid.

OP asked about 5650 vs 555, i simply wanted to make it clear that the 555M or an AMD/ATI greater then 5650 should be the obvious choice here.

 

The thing is it isn't. The 460M is the nVidia equivalent to the 5870M. The 555M is weaker than the 460M. If you want benchmarks, I can whip up some results of an ASUS G73JH and an Alienware m14x off the forums to get your point. Please note that 3DMark11 has a GPU Score as well and both are running with the P Standard.

G73JH - Stock Clocks - 5870M: P1945 GPU

Result

Dell XPS 17 Sandy Bridge - Stock Clocks - 555M 1.5 GB- P1346 Combined (Note that Sandy Bridge is dramatically more powerful than any Generation 1 Clarksfield i7 Quad, which can dramatically boost some combined scores and in addition, the Dell XPS 17 uses the SAME card as the Alienware m14x configurations).

http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/566206-overclocking-gt-555m-card.html - First Picture.

So there you go. It is not a shabby card, but it is NOT better than a 5870M. By a long shot... (Assuming stock clocks I mean...)

I think you are confused that the 6850M they are comparing to from the Acer Aspire uses GDDR 3 VRAM, which ALL 5870M and 6870M uses GDDR 5 VRAM. GDDR 3 vs. GDDR 5 VRAM has a huge performance gap. Therefore, I feel personally perplexed that you had to compared it to a 5870M. A better comparison is against the 5830M or the 5850M/6850M with GDDR 3. Furthermore, I didn't say your post is invalid, but your comparison to the 5870M will throw people off believing their 555M is mid-top tier Class 1 mobile GPU, which it isn't at all. I don't want to see the masses confused when comparing performance levels.

 

The gulf between the 555M and 5870M is the same as comparing the 540M and 555M.

540M -> 555M -> 5870M is a step of about 40% each time.

 

Looks like my HD6770M is about 10% faster... at least in 3dmark 11 compared to the 555m.

 

Considering it only has 480 SP and GDDR 5 on top of a revised efficiency architecture, that is really, really good.

 

It's true that people shoulnd't have jumped at you so quickly but they just wanted to eliminate any misinformation I guess.

As for scores, to give you an idea, my HD5870m, not even using my 900/1040 clockspeeds, scores 2400+ in 3dmark11. A standard HD5870m scores over 2k.

And regarding Stream processors vs cuda cores, it used to be an approximation than 5 stream processors = around 1 Cuda core. But those were estimates with previous generation of stream processors and previous generation of cuda cores (Which were actually a bit more powerful in a sense).

 

Yeah and that's a completely shader bound scenario (scores 20% more than my 5730 at the same clocks) In 3dmark vantage I am getting over 7000 GPU marks.

 

I'm a collector of sorts, in that I like to horde benchmarks, in case I am in a later discussion which requires that I have proof.

The request: would you mind running Vantage (GPU only), at your max overclock, and posting or PMing me a screenshot?

 

I like how quickly this derailed from the original question. I used to own an Acer Aspire 7745g with a 1st gen i7 and a 1gb 5650m. I was utterly disappointed by it. If you look at notebookcheck's benchmarks, you will see that the 555m is much better than the 5650.

 

Hi Star Forge would you suggest that 6850ddr3 is more comparable to 555m ? 144core192bit DDR3 ? and how does 6770m perform compared to those three? I assume 6770m>6850m>555m (finally) am I right? regardles OC results. but anyway they should fit similary when OC'ed as well i suppose.

 

Hi, and how does 6850m ddr3 stacks up? at stocks and OC'ed ?
thanks, R.

 

Yes I just wanted to bump this post. How does 6850m compare to the GT 555m and GTX 560m? Is there a chart that accurately ranks cards?

 

The GDDR3 6850M is about equal to the 555M, while the 560M leads both by nearly 40 percent.

 

I own a 5650 myself and I can tell you it's a great little thing, able to max out less demanding games at my native res of 1080p.

555m is the faster card without doubt but I am still very happy with how my relatively inexspensive (now outdated) laptop can still power through the occasional newly released game at full 1080p.

I can't afford a new laptop within the forseeable future (until after uni (2013)) so I'm gonna have to rely on the lil' guy for quite a while longer. Unless I win the lottery...

 

I have a 555 and it seems to be very OC friendly. One caveat hough is that there are way too many variants of it, I happened to get the lower ddr3 version so buying a laptop with one is a minefield.

 

its about 20-30% faster (555m vs 5650) in gaming terms. but depends really some game do favour nvidia as opposed to amd. on medium settings it not that much different. only when you put the settings higher or use advance options, then you really notice the difference imo.....(without measung its frames)