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    AMD Radeon HD 5870 *Benchmarks*

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by xleonid, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. xleonid

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    I just thought people might be interested to see how it stacks up against other cards.

    It showered great level of improvement.
     
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    Damn, this is an amazing card. Almost on par with a gtx 295 for a fraction of the cost. I wonder what kind of damage the 5870x2 will do.
     
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    I was quite surprised to see such improvement from a Single-GPU card. 5870 X2 will be very similar to 5870 Cross-fired. Now, 5870 X2 Cross-Fired will definitely let you run crysis at its max, I suppose... [​IMG]
     
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    I never thought the words crysis and maxed out would ever be used in the same sentence up until now.
     
  5. ViciousXUSMC

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    desktopreview.com

    Yes its dead but thats where this thread goes.

    When I do my review I'll post it up over there, my review is going to focus on the new eyefinity technology.
     
  6. carlosisme

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    It seems that it easily overpowers the last generation most powerful single core GPU's.
    And it matches the power of the 295gtx.
    Not bad at all. I wonder how powerful the mobile model will be...
     
  7. xleonid

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    Eyefinity is indeed a very nice feature of the ATI's 5800 series.
     
  8. lidowxx

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    damn, these beastly desktop cards make our laptop GPUs look like worthless trash. P17396 vantage score and 16044 for GPU, it beats the hell outta a GTX 280M.
     
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    The mobile version of the 5870 should be at least faster than a desktop GTX 260... which is about as fast as sli 280Ms. We're in for a treat
     
  11. naticus

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    Wow this is a nice card. Might think about getting this in crossfire when i buid my desktop next yr.
     
  12. MexicanSnake

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    Pretty interesting I would like to have one now :D. The bad thing is that it looks pricey.
     
  13. tianxia

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    wonderful, a 5870 has 1600 shader. i wonder how many would midrange cards like 5600/5700 have. i really want a 4850 level card with no external power.
     
  14. sgogeta4

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    For the mobile line, there are 3 enthusiant level 58xx (xx = 70, 50, 30), 2 performance level 57xx (70, 50, 30), 1 mainstream level 56xx (50), and 3 entry level 54xx (70, 50, 30).
     
  15. Rahul

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    It would be nice if we could hook these up externally to a laptop, only problem is the bandwidth offered by the Expresscard slot, maybe wait until Expresscard 2.0 then.
     
  16. Blazin23

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    On overclockers.co.uk you can preorder a 1GB 5870 for just under £300 or a 1GB 5850 for just under £200 (still much much much cheaper than nvidia). In comparison.. a 1GB 4870 is now £150ish.

    Blazin
     
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    I was actually surprised at how cheap it is.

    The again ATI has always been good in that regard
     
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    Probably helps that they used a 40nm process too. If you're lucky though, you can find a HD 4850 1GB GDDR5 card for $100, which would be enough for most budget conscious users.
     
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    Wow, that's really impressive. Thank goodness ATI is still bothering to innovate, unlike nVidia who will probably release a "new" rebranded g80 variant.

    I've been a long time nVidia fan, but they haven't done anything new in so long, it's time for someone else to get my business. Looks like I'll be getting an ATI card for my next upgrade.
     
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    The GTX 295 is still slightly better it seems..
     
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    Because it's a dual-GPU card. The HD 5870 is only single GPU and can match up with the GTX 295 very well.
    And when the 5870x2 comes out, there will be no contest.
     
  24. NAS Ghost

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    Only in current games. The HD 5870 is better in games that support DX10.1 and games that will support DX11. What more is, the HD 5870 has added features, and since its a single GPU, it doesnt have the inconsistency that many games have with SLI/xfire.

    Oh, and the HD 5870 is cheaper.

    @ Above - You mean "if" the 5870x2 comes out. The TDP on that was like 300W+ which is ridiculous, so Im not set on ATI releasing them, at least, not anytime soon.
     
  25. Felix7227

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    Would like to note on that benchmark, it says the 295 is overclocked, doesent say the ATI is, so is it really a fair comparison?
     
  26. Han Bao Quan

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    How do you know?
     
  27. ViciousXUSMC

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    I have my monitors on the way, I am waiting for one of the $380 5870's with free dirt2 game to come in stock and it will be on the way.

    I got 2x Dell 2407WFP and 1x Dell 2408WFP monitors to run with this card in a triple monitor setup because the new eyefinity technology this card has lets you merge multiple monitors into a single virtual monitor for windows. In other words a free matrox triplehead2go unit :D

    Ultra wide FOV gaming is possible and its a whole new world of gaming, esp racing games and others like that.

    World of Warcraft is also very popular, I may have to play on a private server some to try it out.

    Matrox was limited to 3x1680x1050 MAX @ 57HZ due to bandwidth issues as it was just a adapter that used a single dual link dvi connection, however with the HD 5870 using dedicated connections for each monitor its possible to run 3x 30" panels for a single 7680x1600 monitor!!

    I'll be running 24" so my monitor resolution will be 5760x1200, older games should run pretty good but I am a tad worried about some newer games, I may have to cut down settings or see how it looks if I reduce the resolution and let it scale.

    A few videos to show you how it enhances gameplay:
    -Please note that a video is nothing compared to the actual effect of being surrounded by 3 monitors, the 2 outside monitors take up your outside vision causing you to be "in" the game.-

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  28. SeanDude05

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    Until GTX300 is released by Nvidia. Ati will still be playing catchup. And no, Im not an Nvidia fanboy either, I have crossfire 4670s in my Desktop.
     
  29. Loki[D.d.G]

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    And the GTX300 high end cards that will prove to outdo the HD5800 series will also cost a bomb. :D

    ATI has almost always offered quite good price to performance value ratios, IMHO.
     
  30. ViciousXUSMC

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    Yeah I am very amazed at the HD 5870 its the top end highest card and it just came out with a launch price of $380, and it comes with free dirt 2 games and stuff with certian brands.

    Considering it has the power of a 4870X2 and then some its like a free upgrade + gaining DX11, Eyefinity, new AA mode, and other goodies.

    I'll be selling off my two 4850's for $100 each or so and upgrading. I wont get a huge boost in performance but the great thing is all those games that didnt work or didnt work well with crossfire will see the full benifit of the card now since its a single gpu solution.

    Nobody likes crossfire/sli it always has issues its just a work around we take because we HAVE TOO for some high end gaming, but now this card makes it possible to not have too and it doesnt cost a whole lot in gpu world terms.
     
  31. Han Bao Quan

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    For now, the one who is playing catchup is Nvidia, not ATI. It has been that way since the release of the HD 4000 series. ATI was always ahead of the game, and their new lineup is actually new, innovative and features riched. The price that goes with their products is already enough to give Nvidia a good run.
    Now I'm not too much interested in Nvidia upcoming GPUs, considering their lame re-naming game.
     
  32. Loki[D.d.G]

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    True. But strictly performance wise, Nvidia has been holding the upper hand for a long time. Their top end cards always seem to manage to outperform ATI's products on a regular basis, though the premium price they come at doesn't match the performance gain, IMHO.
     
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    Isnt one of the main reasons for nvidia cards being so expensive is because they have such a poor yield when producing the cards?

    Blazin
     
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    It seems like ATI keep fitting and fitting more hardware on though, i think NVIDIA will get overtaken soon enough, ATI are definately more then capable of it.

    The tesselation hardware seems awesome.
     
  35. NAS Ghost

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    If you mean the TDP, fudzilla has the story.

    Edit - It seems it will be released anyway. Fudzilla again.
     
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    How is Ati playing catchup when they have a brand new flagship DX11 card released while NV is no where in sight?
     
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    People expect Nvidia to come up big with the GT300 by precedent.
     
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    By precedent people should also expect the Nvidia mobile cards to be nothing like their desktop versions. ;)
     
  39. tianxia

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    I expect the exact same result as the last matchup, ATI out the door first with a good product, and Nvidia to come late with a ever so slightly better product but at a higher cost.

    ATI will have the best budget card the 5860, and the 2nd best high end card the 5870 that will cost enough less than the top Nvidia card to make it the better purchase per $$$.

    Nvidia will at some point cut prices to compete, but then soon after ATI will cut prices too. Most of the Nvidia sales will probably be in prefab computers and brand loyalst.

    DX11 I wont rave over until its put into effect, just like DX10.1 because it never really got used and even DX10 is not that big of a deal IMO.

    ATI did make a great addition with eyefinity everybody see's me talking about, thats a really cool thing to add and is like magic in a bottle for a small sect of computer enthusiast. If your a member of widescreengamingforum.com you would know what all the jazz is about.
     
  41. NAS Ghost

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    I believe the last match up was Nvidia stepping out first with good cards at ridiculous prices and ATI showing them up a week later by offering competitive cards at about half the price. :D

    This time around Nvidia will not do what ATI did, but I think the advent of the GT300 will cause ATI to drop their prices.
     
  42. tianxia

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    that was the 8800gt.
     
  43. Han Bao Quan

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    On top of that is the mobile world in which ATI does give some great product, unlike Nvidia who just scales down their desktop cards and plays around with their names ("oh it was 8000, just re-name it 9000 and people will buy it...!)

    But of course, we - consumers - do need them to compete! Because that benefits us.
     
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    GT300 is just too freaking huge to put in a notebook, it'll have to be GT200 derivatives at best.
     
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    Behold the HD 5870 X2 !!!!
    http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15692/65/


    don't you feel silly ;)
     
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    Unless nvidia can come up with new GPU technology they are going to be the underdogs for years to come lol , all they seem to do is make massive cards that need their own powerplant to power them just so they can perform 5% better than ATI's best cards at twice the cost and cooling haha

    edit tha ATI card is massive! Lol
     
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    Well the GT200 core is also too big to put in any notebook. The nvidia laptop mobiles suffers performance consideraly compared to their desktop counterparts. I like Nvidia though and think their driver support is excellent. ATI I have thought of buying, however I don´t need any new GPU now since I recently bought a GTX 260 which runs all my games excellently. Looking forward to the GT300 core and see what kind of performance it yields.

    I have no problem with paying a little more, I have always run with Nvidia GPU´s except when I had the ATI X800 XT a long time ago.

    However I didn´t make any huge upgrade GPU wise from my desktop XFX 8800GTX which even today is an excellent GPU. I had that 8800GTX for over 3 years and it still ran games excellent even today, even better with 8800GTX in SLI of course, but I only got one.

    Nvidia was really successful with the 8800GTX and 8800 ULTRA GPU´s considering how long they last even today. Sure they were expensive, but I mean today they are as cheap as they are almost free to get. And two 8800 Ultra in SLI still kicks today.
     
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    You're correct sir. Don't be mislead by some of the people here. They don't know their GPU history.

    The release of the 4800 series cards forced Nvidia to drop their ridiculously high prices.
     
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