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    AMD Radeon HD 8000 Series Appears

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ObserverJLin, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    It seems AMD's latest beta drivers have an interesting surprise, they contain device IDs we haven't seen yet. Namely 16 new device IDs make an appearance, 4x "Venus", 3x "Oland" and finally 9x "Mars", which will form the AMD Radeon 8000 series.
    Due in part to the LE, Pro, XT and XTX suffixes, a guess can be made that "Venus" will end up forming the 8900 series.
    A wise guess looking at past releases from AMD would make a late 2012, 2013 launch feasible :D

    Also First Sign of AMD’s Radeon HD 8000 Series Found in Catalyst Drivers | VideoCardz.com confirm the intel.
     
  2. nissangtr786

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    The people who commented on there are so off the mark it was quite funny.

    This comment:
    'With nothing but my gut telling me more, I forsee power reduction and die shrinks but nothing much more.'

    was so funny. Thats what most people wait for and he makes it sound like thats bad. I reckon the 7000 series was rushed and obviously there are 40nm parks in the 7000m series so lets hope all the 8000m series are 28nm and lets say are 20% better.
     
  3. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah some quite naive. 7970m is already an awesome card. Imagine the performance of 8970m. Dreamy eyes staring into the distance. Drool.
     
  4. awakeN

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    The 8900M series is probably just going to patch up any problems with the 7900M series, probably a better enduro feature and yeah, die shrinks and reduced power usage, but most likely not the same performance jump from 6970M -> 7970M.
     
  5. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    The 8000 series must be in internal testing stage for it's device ID's to appear in their latest driver. XO exciting!
    @awakeN. Seeing performance jump from 6970m -> 7970m might be too optimistic yeah since it'll still be manufactured in 28nm but 20% performance increase over 7970m must be a minimum since it's a refresh series right?
     
  6. fantabulicius

    fantabulicius Notebook Consultant

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    Well from the 5000 to the 6000 series (mobile versios) how big was the jump ?
     
  7. R3d

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    What are the 40nm parts in the 7000 series?
     
  8. Peon

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    Do we count the rebadged parts or not?
     
  9. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    Since most of us only care for the best model we should just look at 5970m (or was it 5870m) to 6970m performance boost %.
     
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    fantabulicius Notebook Consultant

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    shouldn't it be 6990m then.
     
  11. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Funny considering they haven't even released proper drivers for the 7970M yet. Aren't they getting ahead of themselves?
     
  12. ObserverJLin

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    Not at all. Companies always have something else better they are working on when they've released something "new".

    Just like Intel already had Haswell CPU when they released Ivy Bridge.
     
  13. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Yeah no doubt. I meant on the drivers front... to start including 8000M series cards with no official 7970M driver released yet is pathetic.
     
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    Ironic, I'd say. :)
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Well, the HD7000 series launched like half a year ago, and normally between half a year to a year is what it takes for new gen cards to come out.

    This gen was slow particularly because nvidia was late, again, and hardly introduced products.

    In some months we should see the HD8000 series coming out. Ironing out the defects of the HD7000 series and improving the new GCN architecture.
     
  16. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    we should expect the 8000 series on Q4 2012 as per usual.

    sincerely the jump from the 5870m to the 6970m was just superb, and now we have the 6970m jump to 7970m, also astounding
     
  17. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    the jump from 5870m to 6970m is not the same as 5870m used 50watts and 6970m used 75-100 watts.
     
  18. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    the 6000 was a redesign from the 5000 series using the same size tech. the jump was small.

    the 7000 series uses smaller better technology, and a new architecture, it's a giant leap.

    probably the 8000 series will be a redesign on the same process size as the 7000 series, smaller gains. just a guess. depends on when it gets released.
     
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    if the scenario in which the 8970M is out before proper driver fix and Enduro usage has been archieved, ill start to buy nVidia 100% careless of price difference, cause caring of customers is a priority and this scenario doesn t seem to be very fair to customers who spend thousand dollars/euros.....my 2 cents.
     
  20. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    50w of tdp is ludicrous. however there was an increase on the tdp to achieve the jump in performance, the 5770 compared to the 6850 lags behind by a good amount
     
  21. long2905

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    Good driver is already out aka 12.7 beta. Though i have no idea about Enduro.
     
  22. james_het

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    12.7 aren t official, and btw there is nothing about Enduro there.....
     
  23. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    12.7 are officiar beta mate.
    Amd release both 12.6 (including hotfixes, more like a "service pack") and official 12.7 beta along with Cap 1 12.7, both available on amd site as well.
    Enduro is giving some headache to Clevo owners afaik, not all of them anyway.
     
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    sorry i meant official WHQL, i know 12.7 are official Beta, but still Enduro is giving problems to most/all Clevo EM users, and they don t seem to know/care it too much, not even an official note telling us they will take this into more deep consideration, and this makes me a bit sad :(
     
  25. King of Interns

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    I agree with james het. I think it is high time for a official whql driver. Official beta's just are not real drivers.

    At the moment I cannot run gpuz properly or get the card to run full speed when I want it every time nor fold with the GPU.

    This GPU just isn't supported yet...
     
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    I'm betting on a ~15% improvement.
     
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    Interesting naming conventions.

    Venus, Mars and...Olan? :confused:

    Olan Johnson?
     
  28. ObserverJLin

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    Offical 12.7 will be out July 2012 so no need to jump to conclusions just yet. 7970m only came out less than a month ago guys. Give it some time to be fine tuned out. That's the price new tech buyers will face if history has taught us anything.
     
  29. SkittlesXD

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    7970M has been out for two months - Announced on April 24th, shipped with release of the Alienware M17x-R4 starting on April 30th.
     
  30. SlickDude80

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    the amd refresh will come in the sept timeframe

    Sent from my SGH-T989D using Tapatalk 2
     
  31. ObserverJLin

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    Yeah that's like in a blink of an eye.