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    AMD entering tablet market, running actual real games, not tablet/phone games.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Zymphad, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. Zymphad

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    AMD Z series APU for a Windows 8 tablet. This may be interesting, not sure if there is already a thread for it, it is a few days old tech. I personally have zero plans for gaming on anything other than PC and Wii U, I have no desire to game on a tablet or phone. But if AMD can provide this type of power, cool running and low power, maybe this will help stop AMD's slipping stocks and revenue.

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  2. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

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    Could be cool, I look forward to seeing more information and an actual product.
     
  3. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    Not too excited about the z-60 (just a lower clocked e series, iirc), but the next gen Jaguar based APUs seem really promising, especially if they can fit that kind of power into a smartphone.
     
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    maybe they should get their drivers for PCs fixed first before going smaller
     
  5. Zymphad

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    What is this BS? Enduro does work, and AMD got it working first time around. So what's your problem? For almost a decade ATI/AMD released drivers every month that were for 99% of people installed no problems and were stable. For years, AMD drivers overall were more stable than Nvidia. There are more disaster stories for drivers from Nvidia than AMD. If you want perfect drivers everytime, then stop buying hardware. Even Apple can't provide that.

    AMD has to work with a direct competitor to get the utilization correct, Nvidia is not a direct competitor to Intel anymore. Stop spreading fud. AMD has nearly 50% of the market on high end gaming, nearly the same market share as Nvidia, so would seem only the very few hardcore Nvidia fanboys still want to spam forums with AMD drivers suck propaganda campaign.

    Anyway, I think it's good AMD is making this move, they need to survive, their earnings have dropped on PC, they need a boost. And we need AMD to continue to give Nvidia and Intel and ARM competition or we are just looking at a monopoly on each of their markets.

    /rant, tired of AMD drivers sucks with no evidence to prove their drivers are worse than their competitors.
     
  6. Silverfern

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    ?????????????????????????? you are saying enduro works? how about the 60% utilization in bf3?
     
  7. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Never had any driver issues with my ATI Mobility Radeon X600 / X1600 / X1800 or the AMD Radeon HD 6970m.
    Same can be said with the Nvidia Geforce Go 7600 &amp; GTX 680m as well.

    Sure the first gen Enduro have seen its share of problems but cant say first gen Optimus was perfect either.

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    think enduro only affects the 7000 series, not 6000
     
  9. failwheeldrive

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    He was giving examples of successful hardware/drivers. Dude, sometimes new tech has issues. Nvidia went through that when introducing Optimus. I think it bothers some people when a guy with an nvidia gpu bashes amd for its drivers. they might view that guy as an nvidia fanboy. especially considering that even with enduro, 7970>675m. no offense.
     
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    i had an order of 7970m, but after seeing so much problem with enduro, i changed to 675m. i plan to switch to 7970m if they fix the problem fully. i know with enduro fixed, 7970m is aruond 60% better than 675m
     
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    I originally ordered a 675m too. I switched to the amd because I knew it would be more expensive to buy another gpu later. Plus, like I said, even with the under utilization the 7970 still out-performs the 675 in most games. There are a few exceptions, but not all that many. I'm happy with my "crippled" gpu so far, and will be even more satisfied once it's fixed. I can understand those who are sick of waiting for the fix, but I can also sympathize with people who are sick of people bashing amd and the 7970 for the rough start.
     
  12. Zymphad

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    That's not Enduro. Enduro is switchable graphics, seamless with zero core. And that works awesome. It switches to dGPU and back to iGPU with zero % utilization, zero core tech. That works. The issue is utilization which again, is not an AMD hardware issue. That's an issue with communication between INTEL CPU and AMD's GCN. So get your facts straight. Considering for the same price as a 675M/675MX, it's quite impressive the 7970M performs much better. So in then end, AMD is still a win for me, even with the utilization issue.
     
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    if that is so, that would mean AMD would NOT be able to fix the problem is that correct? but AMD IS fixing the issue, that it is an AMD driver problem
     
  14. be77solo

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    well this thread went off on a tangent... still excited about a legit powerful tablet.
     
  15. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    It doesn't matter if it can run existing PC games. Existing PC games are not designed for a touchscreen-only user interface. At the end of the day, you're still going to need to run tablet-oriented games on a tablet, regardless of the processing power. So the most an owner could hope for was a really, really good looking Infinity Blade III (a game which, let's face it, gets real boring real quick).

    I'm just not sold on the idea of AAA games on a tablet for reasons besides processor power.
     
  16. be77solo

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    I get that point, but there are some rather good games out there that I do play regularly when on the go, and to an even bigger extent, I'd love to be able to load up my PC games and play them with a wireless controller. For work I always have my tablet with me, and usually have a 360 pad in the bag as well... I like to play this setup on my Xoom now, but it would sure be great to tap into my PC games collection.

    The G73 simply isn't portable enough to carry on many shorter trips, and I've stopped taking the M11x along as the tablet takes care of the majority of what I need on most trips. Some real gaming would be a welcome addition!
     
  17. misterhobbs

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    What PC games are we talking about here? Don't a lot of them require a keyboard and mouse? I don't own a tablet so I don't know how easy it is to play PC games on them, so forgive me if I sound like I'm trying to argue against this. I simply don't know.

    Either way, I want AMD to survive and thrive, and if this helps them, it's all good.
     
  18. Mitlov

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    Some do, but many PC games are console ports that should be completely playable with a wireless controller. be77solo raised a good point there.

    I think AMD's strategy of striking a balance between Clover Trail (great battery life, but very iffy performance) and Ivy Bridge (fantastic performance for a tablet, but only 5ish hours battery life) is a good idea. We'll see how the execution is though.