AMD magneto 4GB

When I configured the latest Alienware laptop:
Under graphics they had AMD Magneto 4GB
It costs about 150 dollars more than Nvidia 970m but is cheaper than 980m


Magneto = codename for Mobile Fiji?

 

Interesting find.

 

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I wonder why they left out Professor Xavier and the other X-Men? This is GPU discrimination being done by AMD!
LOL.

 

It's priced similarly to the M395X. It might just be the M395X.

 

Do we know the specs of M395X?

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Very similar to the r9 m295x. Only thing that is unknown is the core speed (maybe bandwidth and memory clock speed as well, but very doubtful).
Sadly it may not be until late next month that we get any specs of the r9 m395x (probably what the AMD Magneto is referring to, like ssj92 said). The r9 m295x in the 15 R1 was told a couple months after its shipping. I expect the same for the m395x unless someone does a benchmark early on.

 

Disappointing. Wasn't the M390 already a rebrand of M295X? I hope this 'magneto' will come out as Fury Nano for mobile.

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More so, the m390(x) is a renaming of the m295x. They're the same GPU, like the m290x was the same as the HD 8970m.
The m395x, though, is a rebrand with some improvements, much like the HD 8970m was to the HD 7970m. This much is indicated in the Dell AMD drivers.

 

The only improvement from 7970M to 8970M is 50 MHz . So we can expect more of the same from M395X?

 

I wouldn't know. Yes, no, maybe...
I'm just dreading the "hunt for the m395x benchmark" next month. That's all I'm thinking about.

 

Very interesting find mate.
Why call it "Magneto" instead of M3xxX if it was that?

 

No Magneto here though

 

AW website is like the ultimate troll. First they bring back the AW18 and let you select desktop LGA1150 CPUs for it, now it's AMD "Magneto".

 

Yeah lol. They even wrote unlocked Haswell CPU @4.4GHz on facebook that matched the stock settings of the 4790K they listed on the webshop. Man was I dissappointed when I saw it was the 4940MX that was overclocked

 

alien marketing trolls ud think they got better stuff to do, like anal probing and cow abductions

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I messed around configuring the new 17 inch alienware on alienware.se.
Only the cheapest model had that you could change graphics card and there the Magneto card was selectable. 395X seems to be more realistic.

I have no idea what Magneto 4GB meant. Maybe just a placeholder name in the system.


http://www.dell.com/se/p/alienware-17-r3/pd.aspx

Its the article to the left where you can change graphics = Magneto 4GB.

 

That's odd. The 17 R3 doesn't have an AMD option anywhere else.
However, you cannot buy the 17 R3 with an AMD GPU. The configurator will complain that you need to get the 240w PSU for it (and the GTX 980m) and the right CPU which isn't in the configurator by ID.

 

Lol so true

LOL wth are you saying Jaybee watch it

 

All this said, it is the only option to not say 4 GB of GDDR5 VRAM. It just says 4 GB. So either it's a listing error (most likely) or another unintentional leak (less likely, but in the 17 R3's support driver page, the R9 m395x/AMD driver is listed under graphics drivers, but such driver does not mention AMD Magneto).

 

Or.. it might be the R9 Nano in a 100W envelope?
4GB at least seems to be in line with HBM 1... since there is no information on the TYPE of memory used... but the likelihood of this being a mobile HBM product is slim at best (considering we haven't had a peep from AMD about mobile HBM at all - which might also be a 'surprise product', but again, I don't necessarily think it may be).

 

mobile nano would be the best thing ams could possibly do right now...would kick nvidia in the balls so hard they wouldnt know what hit them. with a 100W nano u could probably easily beat a 200W 980

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Um wut? A 175W nano is only 5% faster than a 165W 980 at 1080p/1440p and 10% faster at 4K.

 

more like 15-20% faster at 4k, depending on how u set the power target. but yeah, ure right, damn i had higher difference numbers in mind...still, would be an awesome card to have in a laptop! and with some nice binning they could bring the nano from 175 to 120W easily and still get the same performance (thus beating a 200w 980 even if only by 5-20% depending on res and power target ) afaik they didnt bin the fury nano compared to the full fury x, they just restricted power target, temp, and core clocks, thats it!

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That or do a 175w mobile nano

 

Since new Alienwares are soldered and obviously AMD has issues with MXM modules (I have a guess on this, but it's another story) it could very well be HBM chip. We'll see soon.

 

I don't expect anything great from AMD in mobile but let's wait and see, no point passing judgement yet on it... yet...

 

The L980 may have permanently smashed the ceiling and 150-200w GPUs is the new normal for laptops, so why not?

 

This gives me an idea.
AMD apparently managed to bring down the power requirements through not too complex measures of power target restriction, core clocks, etc. on the Nano while sacrificing only a small portion of performance vs the Fury X flagship.
If they can repeat the process and shed a little bit more performance (because, the Nano didn't lose THAT much vs the flagship) while bringing down the TDP a lot, then I don't see a problem.

Although, to be honest, if OEM's are redesigning cooling to accommodate a DESKTOP 980 of up to 200W in a laptop, the process could be similar to accommodate the R9 Nano which has a lower TDP - though, Nvidia did some fancy binning on 980 to bring down the TDP... R9 Nano is already by design on a lower level, and its size is there too.

 

thats what im sayin! imagine how much energy savings they could have by actually doing some binning on the fury x chips if they do that, they might even apply higher clocks than in the nano whike staying inside a 200W TDP envelope to be used in the new 980 compatible skylake laptops

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I wonder how the Batman is going to be able to take the desktop 980... Is it going to be the 180W version or the 120W MXM version?

 

depends which batman youre referring to if its the original ZM, then its gonna be the 100-120W model, since the 180W board is that new L-shaped MXM format that shares the same dimensions as the 200W monster. as for DM series, P750DM and P770DM would be the same as ZM, whereas P775DM is capable of holding the 180W board due to rearranged internals (= more space)

this is purely from a dimensions-perspective though. talking about power and heat / TDP, ALL batman models can easily handle 120W cards OCed to 180+ W, as shown by owners already I can make my 980M draw around 170-180W before it trips due to lack of installed power phases, but at temperatures that reach 75C max on a hot summer day

 

The P870DM can already cool a full blown Fury Nano in it's 175W TDP state

 

What "Magneto" is, one can only guess. However, the R9 M395X is scarily close to the R9 M295X. Its specs are available on AMD Website.

http://products.amd.com/en-us/searc...adeon™-R9-M300-Series/AMD-Radeon™-R9-M395X/56

P.S. I have made a post on AMD's lack of capable mobile GPUs previously.

 

Probably still has some juice left.

Will dual Fury (non-X) in Nano's power management fit?

 

My money is on this "AMD Magneto" being a placeholder for the R9 M395X aka slightly overclocked R9 M295X. But, here's to hoping its actually a Fury Nano

 

As well, some European regions (France, Germany, etc.) have AMD Magento listed for the 17 R3. Still unable to buy, but still.

 

It would be interesting if Magneto turned out to be R9 Nano.
Nvidia is after all putting a desktop 980 into laptops... the R9 Nano should be more than doable.

 

instead of focussing on the nano, AMD decides to bring out "new" MXM gpus for EMBEDDED SYSTEMS! *rofl*

https://translate.google.com/transl...-mit-voller-tonga-gpu-bei-95-watt/&edit-text=

 

The chip has too large a footprint for current MXM. The desktop 980 still has the proper holes for mounting, its just a larger board.

 

What's so surprising about a new embedded GPU? They have been in this field for years.

 

the news itself is not surprising, just the timing with Nvidia´s 980 release