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    AMD vs. Nvidia dGPU market share 2003-2014

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by octiceps, Apr 18, 2015.

  1. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    We are talking month to a couple of months here before 390X hits the market. I think beating AMD to the market with a more reasonable priced GPU is a good strategy. The 980Ti will saturate the market pretty quickly if it cost $700 and is alone for 1-2 months. They should be able to move a lot of units at that price. Myself may pick 2 in SLI :)

    Did you read the recent leak btw? They are moving to plastic as well as metal with 980Ti, even a water cooled 980Ti may come in September. I like that they allow more designs than that metal chassis
     
  2. karasahin

    karasahin Notebook Consultant

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    Of course. See, taken from 7670M's driver (13.8 Beta):
    http://i.imgur.com/pZAiO9o.png
    http://i.imgur.com/xxCsFoP.png
    http://i.imgur.com/TsNTcQW.png
    http://i.imgur.com/DIgX8I2.png

    Obviously he needs to reinstall the drivers. AMD's Enduro has certainly more detailed settings for switchable graphics.
     
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  3. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Nvidia cheaping out on that great stock blower is a good thing??? Next thing you know, we'll be back to the Fermi era plastic shrouds with no vapor chamber and sounding like a jet turbine at full load. :rolleyes:

    Thanks for the confirmation. I figured it was PEBKAC. :p
     
  4. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    octiceps, Intel options are there, they're somewhat limited compared to Nvidia, and it's impossible to adjust color temperature for internal display there. Switchable Graphics menu is working, of course - but it has nothing to do with the described problems.
     
  5. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Except the danger here is you're going in blind since you don't know how the 390X performs exactly. If the 980 Ti really is just a 6GB Titan X, then one has to ask: what is nVidia gonna do when the 390X comes out and beats the Titan X? Because by default that would mean it'll beat the 980 Ti as well. They'd then have to release something like the 980 Ti OC edition to reclaim the performance crown, because nVidia has never been known to compete on price/perf, except for the abomination known as the 3.5GB 970 which was clearly meant to kill 290 and 290X sales.

    Yes I read the link, almost seems like they simply took what SWEClockers said out of context and tried to spin it off as their own news.

    Either way, I maintain there will be no 980 Ti until the 390X launches, and we can just agree to disagree on that, no biggie. :)
     
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  6. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Uhm MSI`s GTX 980 for example runs cooler and more quieter than reference 980.
    There are more models than that too beating reference in cooling

    :)

    GTX 980Ti will run higher clock than Titan X according to the leak. That could be required to beat/match 390X. I`m sure Nvidia know a thing or two about the card anyway. Remember the leak a month ago? Pretty sure its legit too
     
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  7. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    They're not in the Nvidia Control Panel either on Optimus notebooks. The Intel driver is more limited, but that's par for the course whether you're talking Nvidia or AMD switchable graphics. Get a non-Enduro/Optimus dGPU notebook if you want those options.

    Ofc. It uses their Twin Frozr open air cooler. I'm talking about reference cards, which Nvidia only ever uses blowers on. The all-metal one they've had on their flagships since GTX 690 is the best blower by a substantial margin, especially if it comes with the vapor chamber. Cheaping out on that is a huge sin, particularly for people who need a good blower, whether it be for SLI or mini-ITX builds.
     
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    The point was that they open up for cards like that. GTX Titan X is locked to reference.
    More options and they don`t cost that much more
     
  9. octiceps

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    My point is, I'd be pissed if Nvidia cheaps out on its stock cooler while continuing to charge typical Nvidia prices
     
  10. Cloudfire

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    Nobody forcing you to buy reference :p
    They will have what they call Metal Enhanced version as well according to the leak. But I bet it will cost a pretty penny. Isnt that semi ok? I mean metal cost to make as well right?
     
  11. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    I read the original Baidu link, it says absolutely nothing about the 980 Ti's clockspeeds, only that IF the 980 Ti was to launch as early as the leak claims, they would all be reference cards, and custom cards won't be seen until September. That they pinpointed September is what makes me really suspicious that they simply ripped off SWEClockers and spun their own story.
     
  12. octiceps

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    Right, but like I said, some people want/need reference cards for whatever reason, and Nvidia's superior stock cooler is a major selling point for these people over, say, a reference AMD card.

    So now it's OK for Nvidia to take away a previously standard feature on its flagships (the metal cooler) and charge extra for it? That's a funny justification. This is what monopoly does: The market goes to hell. :mad:
     
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    They pinpointed launch window dude. May 16th-26th somewhere. Sweclockers didnt do that. :)

    Who said they havent made adjustment to the price for the plastic 980Ti to accommodate a more expensive metal version with cooling you find on Titan X? Wait and see before going all DOOOM-NVIDIA :p
     
  14. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Well you have to add your own speculation into the mix to make it less apparent that you ripped someone else's story. :p

    But seriously I trust SWEClockers more than any random dude on Chiphell, or even worse, Baidu.
     
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    We shall see n=1, we shall see.
    I read your title btw. So now you know :p
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    ha suckered one person at least :p
     
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    Well, their Battlefield: Hardline benchmark only included the 8650G, and that's an APU. The only other mobile AMD GPU they tested was the R7 m270, which ran BF:H after the benchmark.
    So the trend started some time ago for dedicated AMD GPUs.
    Out the laptops I listed a while ago (excluding those that I did not consider), only two of them released this year, and one of them was reviewed under its Nvidia variant. So we aren't going to expect much AMD from notebookcheck for a while.
     
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    http://wccftech.com/amd-launching-fiji-based-graphics-cards-june/
    Well, at least they have something Nvidia won't have soon. A dual GPU card on the latest series.
    Nothing yet for mobile, though. I expect by August there would be something about high-end mobile GPUs.
    But let me bring up one point. Bitcoin mining caused a surge for AMD GPUs. Will VR do the same? I may have to do more research, but I haven't heard much on Nvidia and VR. only since GDC.
    EDIT: Scratch the previous edit.
     
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  20. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Pretty sure WCCF ripped that from Fudzilla.

    Also, let me just say I'll eat my shorts keyboard if 395X2 launches simultaneously with the 390X.
     
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    Well they did cite them...
    I'll hold you onto that keyboard consumption, though.
     
  22. Mr.Koala

    Mr.Koala Notebook Virtuoso

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    As soon as I saw the 990 Ti name, I knew it was bogus. That name makes no logical sense. Neither does the 24GB VRAM.
     
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    /facepalm

    I'm illiterate. You got me. :mad:
     
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