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    ASUS N50VN-B1B 9650M GT question

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by criter, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. criter

    criter Newbie

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    Hey team,

    Does anyone out there know if the 9650M GT that comes in the ASUS N50VN-B1B notebook is DDR2 or DDR3?

    I don't know too much about these things, but would I be correct in assuming that the difference is significant?

    I've checked around with several stores and distributors, and noone actually seems to know what it is that they are selling.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Freakish123

    Freakish123 Notebook Consultant

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    The 9650GT is DDR2. Generally the performance range difference is about 12% difference on games. (AFAIK) However there have been no DDR3 9650GT's thus far to compare directly. Usually overclocking the DDR2 version will give you similar performance to the stock DDR3 model.
     
  3. JohnnyFlash

    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    Messed up how the 9650GT is slower than the 9600GT.
     
  4. criter

    criter Newbie

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    Freakish. Thank you. I've been searching for information on this card for a couple of days now.

    If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the 9650 GT in this specific notebook is DDR2, but there are DDR3 9650 GT's out there somewhere? Any idea if they are common, or what notebooks come stock with them?

    Thanks again
     
  5. Freakish123

    Freakish123 Notebook Consultant

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    The cards themselves support DDR2/DDR3, Asus have chosen a 1Gb DDR2 configuration for all current models using this card. (I think for the price they should have used DDR3.. :)

    I'm not aware of any other manufacturers using the 9650GT as yet. (So no DDR3 models at all so far) You may see the rebadged 9650GT as the GT130 using DDR3 at some stage. But nothing at the moment.

    If you mean slower than a DDR3 version fair enough, but most HPDV5's for example are 9600GT's with 512Mb DDR2, so the Asus has 1Gb or DDR2 @ 55nm which means it should also have more overclocking room than the 9600's @ 65nm. It seems stable overclocks @ around 30% faster than stock clocks with the N50's, would then also beat stock DDR3 versions by a fair amount still.
     
  6. ytrewqxl

    ytrewqxl Notebook Guru

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    Why would that be?. I heard they chose the 65nm structure in 9700m GT because it allows for higher clocks with more energy efficiency. 9600m GT DDR3 is the same chip so it's no surprise some people on this forum could crank it up all the way to 9700m GT levels and hit 3d mark06 scores of 6600-6800. No way that's ever gonna happen on 9650Gt DDR2. I would say if gaming performance is top priority better look for 9600m GT DDR3 notebook. On the other hand I like Asus notebooks and understand there are many reasons to stick with the N50.
     
  7. nklive

    nklive Notebook Evangelist

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    I would have chosen any Acer laptop with 9600M GT which comes with 512MB DDR3 and scores more in 3dmark06 than the 9650M GT DDR2. I think the speed of the memory is a more important factor when it comes to the performance of an nvidia graphic card. The chips themselves shouldn't have any big difference but the type of memory would give a substantial difference
     
  8. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    Zepto was selling 9650m GT GDDR3 versions in their mid-range laptops before the end of 2008.

    I think the 9650m GT was supposed to have been 20% better compared to 9600m GT (both GDDR3 versions) while being on a smaller manufacturing process (55nm for 9650m compared to 65nm for 9600m) which resulted in less heat and smaller power consumption.

    A note: If your 9650m GT comes with 1GB Vram, then it's likely DDR2.
    A GDDR3 would have been a better option, but DDR2 cards are evidently cheaper solutions.
    I still don't get a very idiotic approach from computer companies that have grossly exaggerated prices between CPU's and GPU's that differentiate by 20%.

    Download and run GPU-Z.
    If you see RAM frequency at 400 Mhz, then the card is DDR2. If RAM frequency is at 800Mhz, then it's GDDR3.
     
  9. avanish11

    avanish11 Panda! ^_^

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    Yep it's DDR2. I've opened up my N50 and looked at the actual RAM chips beside the GPU.

    Overclocked, My N50 can get around 5800 points in 3Dmark06. That's with a 33% overclock on core/shaders and a 34% Overclock on the memory.

    Now the difference isn't too great. I can play every game out there (except crysisand GTA4) at max settings, 1280x800 resolution, and no AA/AF/AO. It should be good enough for everything but the most hardcore gaming.
     
  10. criter

    criter Newbie

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    When you say that the difference isn't too great, do you mean the difference between stock and overclocked?

    I just got my N50