ATI 4850 vs NVidia 9800GTS or GS

I'm just wondering about which video card might be better? I'm not a huge gamer, but would like a good video card. I'm looking at a few different laptops (Toshiba and MSI). The Toshiba has 1 GB Nvidia 9800 GTS (dual 512 cards), 2 MSI's have 512 ATI HD 4850 and one MSI has 1 GB Nvidia 9800 GS.

I'm not sure which would be better. Any comments appreciated. I heard that ATI is starting to compete with Nvidia. Systems with good Nvidia cards seem to be more expensive.

T.

 

the 4850 and the 9800gts are quite close, while the 9800 gs is 10-15% slower. but all of the cards can game really well (1440x900, maxed setting on most games will work smoothly)

 

9800 Gts Sli > Ati Hd 4850 > 9800 Gs

 

If the toshiba does in fact have dual (SLI) 9800M GTS then it will outperform the 4850 by quite a bit.

EDIT: 500th post!

 

No the 4850 is competing with and may surpass the 9800M GTX. The GTS and GS aren't even in the fight. 35% at best.

2x GTS is superior to one 4850 though, but 1v1, it's not a close comparison.

 

I believe you're thinking about the 4870. The 4850 is already in an MSI, so it may have been tested already..

 

So the dual 512 9800 GTS (1 GB) would be better than the 512 ATI. And maybe the 512 ATI is better than the 1 GB 9800 GS?? What's worth more, the actual memory or the type of card? Sorry...I'm not a computer tech person or anything. Or does it depend what it's paired with....computer memory, screen res, processor..??

 

Twin 9800 GTS are very powerful if that's an option, you will not be disappointed with that. Certainly more powerful than a single 9800 GTX or even 4870, but more heat, larger laptop, and some compatibility issues with a few games. Twin 3870 are also cheap and powerful, probably about equal to the GTS, and can be found in the alienware M17.

 

exactly right

 

We've already tested the MSI's 4850 versus my 9800M GT in Crysis and DMC4.

The 4850 won Crysis by 37-41% (19 vs 32 in one bench, 12 vs 19 in the other), DMC4 by an average of 21%. Mind you I also had a T9800 vs his P9500. The 4870 will be in a whole different league, all by itself until Nvidia's GT200 mobile cards come out later this year.

The GTS and GS will be slaughtered.

EDIT: Crysis Warhead was run @ 1680x1050, all high no AA. DMC4 was 1680x1050 Ultra High, no AA

 

The 4850 is already trading blows with the 9800M GTX and it's a 512MB card versus the 1GB fo the 9800M GTX. It's looking to be the superior performer.

NVidia will not be releasing GT 200 series cards until Q4 at the earliest. When the 4870 comes out (Q2 at the latest), ATI will have undisputed mobile dominance for a guaranteed 6 months with no answer from NVidia.

Keep this in mind also: the GTX series has 448 bit and 512 bit interfaces. The HD 4870 is GDDR5 so they achieve memory bandwidth on half the bus width (256 bit). This means that even when and if the GT200 comes out to compete, there's no way they can launch on a competitive price point.

 

Well, the G280M is listed as 40nm GDDR5, so it's possible that Nvidia is cooking up it's own efficient mobile chip. Also, by Q4 the GTX 260 Core 216 will 40nm and dirt cheap because of the GT300, so there's a possible contender from which the 280 mobile will be derived.

But I look at this chart...

..and my main source of wonder is the where and when of the GT200 mobile series. There's no way Nvidia can afford to push these $500-$800 enthusiast rank mobile chips again. ATi is flipping the industry upside down, and Nvidia's monopoly is officially a done deal.

 

It depends on if the NVidia mobile chips are coming from GT 280/260 or the upcoming GT212/214. Either way, it's going to be a long time before NVidia has a mobile answer to the 48xx series.

 

yeah, this is old news d00dz. The 4850 > 9800M GTS, let alone a GS

 

Thanks for the help. Conclusion (correct me if I'm wrong): dual SLI 512 mb 9800 GTS video card is the best. Next would be the AIT 4850 512 mb. Then last would be that 1 GB 9800 GS. So Toshiba x305 is best with those dual cards. Then the MSI's...

T.

 

Yes that's pretty much it. Are you looking at the X305-Q706?

I'm always going to choose the single top of the line card for my gaming needs, but to each his own.

 

Honestly I would go for the MSI > Toshiba. The MSI is a much lighter notebook (7.X pounds vs 10.X pounds on the Toshiba). Not to mention its way cheaper and still can run Crysis at native resolution on all high (my notebook can only do that with a massive overclock).

 

Plus the Toshiba is uglier than hell.

 

^^^^^^^^LOL

ATi
4xxx SERIES FTW!!!!!!!!

Can't wait to put on in my notebook [hopefully] w/T9800

 

Yes, I was looking at the Toshiba x305-706, which is about $2000. I was really hoping for less expensive, which is why I just started looking at the MSI's after a few months of research. The other important thing to me was the sound system and Toshiba's is amazing. I would think that the MSI GT725's, which also have 4 speakers and a subwoofer, would be great too.

Anyway, the MSI's are $1500-1750, unless I go for the 627-218.

T.

 

$1500? The MSI GT725-074 w/ P8600 + 4850 is under $1400 everywhere it's listed.

 

Well, I think all I added on xoticpc was the 64 bit OS. That jacked up the price. Maybe I don't need that.

T.

 

The Amazon sale is $1349.99, and it comes with 64-bit preinstalled, plus shipping is free.

 

So it is! Thanks. Man I wish I could see one in person before buying.

T.

 

YEA 4850 ftw and the msi computer is a great deal ...

 

Try talking to Faisalhero (check the MSI section) and get him to take a whole bunch more pics.

 

And 9800M GTS 512MB in SLI do not equal to 1GB of VRAM, VRAM don't stack.

 

I say 9800 GTS SLi, ATI HD 4850, 9800 GS.

 

here are same benchmark- look my signature