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    ATI Mobility HD 5650 Benchmarked

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by nklive, Dec 18, 2009.

  1. nklive

    nklive Notebook Evangelist

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    Here is the first benchmark of the new ATI Mobility HD 5650 DirectX11 card in a DevilTech Fire DTX laptop. It performs really good for a mainstream GPU. It has 1GB DDR3 and scores in 3DMark06 a bit more than a 4650 or 4670 GPU. With a price tag €923 looks really sweet (the appearance of the laptop is awful though). Unfortunately the review is in German but you can understand the results from the graphs, photos and videos.
    Enjoy
     
  2. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Nice review 7600 in 3dmark06 with a i7 720. Seems similar in performance to a 4670 then! Really hope someone puts one on mxm 2.1 pcb :D
     
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    923 Euros for a card?
     
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    That price is for the laptop
     
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    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    Oh sorry. Should have checked. :eek: And it's a Compal barebone model I just saw leaked earlier.
     
  6. mobius1aic

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    That's a nice 10% improvement, especially considering there is just above 10% more Stream Processors. AFAIK the 5650/5670 GPU in desktop form will consist of 400 SPs, as opposed to the 320 found in the Radeon 4650/4670, and I assume the mobile form follows suit.
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    I assume the same, nonetheless it is 25% stream processors and only 10% speed improvement and that is disappointing. Maybe drivers will improve that in future (i.e. new Cats 9.12 are supposed to increase 3D Mark score by some 10% on HD 5xxx)
     
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    I guess performance is limited by the 128bit bus.
     
  9. JCMS

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    Yeah I think that 128bits GDDR3 is reaching its limit. Time to move on GDDR5
     
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    And that's where HD57xx should come in- higher core clock and GDDR5 would make a difference.
     
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    I'm sure the 5670 will have GDDR5. The HD57xx is a whole other level of performance in the desktop front being 800 SPs with 128 bit bus + GDDR5. I'm sure the laptop segment will be similar.
     
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    You are right obviously- I meant 5670. As for HD57xx would be either 720SP or 800 or both- whichever it's gonna be it promises some performance. I'm getting in to grey area of speculation though and there seems to be another thread for that ;)
     
  13. Exostenza

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    I got about 8000 in 3dmark06 with my 9800GS and a dual core about a year and a half ago...
     
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    Yeah and MSI EX625 with C2D and HD4670 scored 7600 in 3D Mark 06 (1280x768) as opposed to 7800 (1280x800) scored by HD5650.
    That's why I'm unimpressed to say the least.
     
  15. King of Interns

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    your point being lol? :rolleyes:
     
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    Now that laptop is actually worth its money. I don't know about the way you guys value money, but I had to do backbreaking work in construction for a louzy 1200 euros. So if I spend 1000€, I really want some bang for the buck.

    Edit: I am a bit doubtfull wether this card will support future direct x 11 games, my nvidia 8600m gt was one of the first card that played direct x 10 on laptops, yet it can't play asassins creed which came out the same year unless you use direct x9.
     
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    Not a bad score......nice
     
  18. King of Interns

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    It does support dx11 but it don't expect it to power through games at the highest settings while using it. Besides it is a marketing gimick. Games now are only just starting to take advantage or dx10 it will be a few years before games use dx 11 properly.
     
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    Ah, I see.
     
  20. mobius1aic

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    There's actually quite a bit of DX11 support. It supports some of the various highly efficient AA methods that 10.1 did, while further stream lining efficiency and adding capability at the same time. Also it's to be noted IIRC that DX11 is made to be backwards compatible for games pre-DX10, so Windows 7 doesn't need a special form of DX9 to run older titles that use the API and previous. DX11 also contains new DirectCompute capability which will hopefully be useful for doing physics on GPUs without a specialized API for a single manufacturers cards like Nvidia's PhysX as well as more practical GPGPU functions like video playback, etc. Having OpenCL around further gives us ATi users some hope as well for GPGPU usefullness :D

    DX11 actually has some things worth developer's time. DX10 being Vista only during it's early inception was a big mess because of just that: Vista only. DX11 is usable on both Vista and 7 this time around thankfully. As for the new cards not having the power worth running DX11, that's not entirely true. The desktop Radeon 57xx series runs DiRT 2 extremely fluently, even at high resolutions in DX11 mode, be it noted that they have ~800 Stream Processors. I expect the 56xx series with it's 400 SPs to still have the relative power to still benefit from DX11 capabilities, both graphically and ones related to DirectCompute. Pretty much any ATi GPU that benefited from DX10.1 should benefit from DX11 in gaming I would think.

    From my own current experience with my desktop Radeon 5850, it's a card. Runs Crysis at 1080p fluently with maxed out visuals even with 2x AA. I play CoD4 with all maxed out visuals including 4x AA at 1080p. The framerate is pretty much a constant 91 FPS (for some reason, the displayed FPS does not go any higher). The only other real graphical test I've tried other than Crysis so far is Shattered Horizon. That game runs well maxed out at 1080p w/o AA quite fluently, though it's known to be an extremely pro-Nvidia game, so I'm happy that an ATi card is getting a great experience with it.