ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850

what u guys think about this card...

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Newsentry.153+M577e7144be0.0.html

supposedly its faster than a 9800m GTX

 

If you find any notebook that has it now and sells them now (not pre-order), then please let me know in pm...

 

not out yet is upcoming, im hoping for a sager np5796 w/HD 4850 soon by november

 

Why not post it here instead, so everyone can benefit?
But even so, it's not out yet.

 

It's good and since a lot of Nvidia mobile gpus have been crashing it wouldn't be a bad choice.

 

By that time we may have a Geforce GTX 260M =D But ATI's cheaper.

 

And quite better right now too! I love my 4870!

 

Mobility 4850 lol....I've been reading about the 3870 for at least 8 months and still haven't seen one.

 

Interesting how it is using MXM-3 as opposed to MXM-HE or MXM-4. If this card works on older notebooks that hold MXM-3 slots (i.e. Alienware M9700, M9750, and other MXM-3 notebooks listed on mxm-upgrade.com), I would expect a lot of people just ordering the card to keep their old notebooks still running.

 

They decided to not release he Mobility 38xx in the end.

 

Really? they just canceled it? Where did you see this?

 

In a Lenovo ThinkPad FTW.

 

kick ***, i just bought 2 of the desktop model

 

I find it odd that they would just cancel it seeing that upcoming gaming notebooks have it as a GPU option...

 

Pretty sure I asked for this information from you before. SOURCE PLEASE!!!!

 

Off-topic: There's also a new 4870 X2 for the desktops, with 2GB of GDDR5 at only $600!!

 

I thought it was $550?

That is a real killer of a card, I have to admit. Can't wait to have the NEXT generation core in my Fusion notebook processor.

 

Any idea when this will be out?

I'm hoping we'll see it in the September/October MacBook Pro revision..

Unrealistic?

I wonder what kind of power consumption it'll have.. fingers crossed for ~25-35 watts

 

Unrealistic. Considering the 8600M GT is a 20 watt card and it runs hot in the MBP. We will most likely see 9600M GT (23 watt) in the revision, although I'd like to see a solid performance mid-range card from ATI in the 20-23 watt range.

 

it didnt get cancelled thr OCZ Whitebook has two 3870s in crossfire, ima gettin one

 

this card has a lot of potential considering its price and performance as compared to its nvidia counter parts. the rate of failure of nvidia cards should give this card a huge boost when it comes on the market..ATI is finally making up for its lateness

 

When will we see a successor to the 9600M GT? Either from Nvidia or ATI?

The 9600M GT is garbage for a $3k laptop

 

The MBP is not a DTR laptop. Its >1 inch thick and 5.4 - 6.8 lbs. If you want a gaming laptop buy one that was made for it, i.e. 1.3+ inches thick and 7+ lbs. Apple would have to make sacrifices to fit in more copper heatsinks, something they are very unlikely to do since they aren't targeting the gaming community.

The 9600M GT probably won't be going anywhere for at least another 6 - 8 months. In terms of the mobility market Nvidia doesn't have much competition in the Performance / High Performance arena. So until ATI/AMD can release a powerful midrange performance card, nvidia will continue to loligag around rebranding old hardware.

 

This picture is old, but it clearly shows the M98 is on A1 silicon. So they are past the teething stages.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/pics/000844319_01.jpg

 

Any chance this card will fit in 15.4" models or are the heat/power requirements too high?

 

Yeah I'm wondering if these mobile cards would fit in my old ASUS C90s.I think it's MXM type II(ASUS) so I am not sure if it's even compatible, but I can always dream.....
I just feel screwed by ASUS, I bought my C90s thinking they would have at least one upgrade by now over the 8600M GT, if we ever get one and it doesn't look to promising.
FN ASUS!

 

All our doubts are now crushed since MSI will be releasiung theing GT735 with ATI MOBILITY RADEON 4850.... It's really hard to buy a gaming laptop these days because companies are releasing products without notice!

 

If ATi drivers werent so bad Id go for it.

 

GT725 will have the 4850, GT735 will have the 3850.

 

ATI drivers are just fine...

 

Agreed ARom, ATI drivers are fine. I think liquidxit2 must be stuck in 2002 and can't conceive that a company can grow and produce better drivers over time.

 

No, theres this huge understanding that somehow "ATI drivers suck" on NBR mostly by people who have never owned a laptop with an ATI GPU.

 

In fairness, the poster in question does indeed have a laptop with an HD 3200 in it. That said, of course, having used ATI and NVIDIA drivers both, I've found ATI's to be vastly more stable these days.

As for the understanding on NBR, it's not just NBR, it's everywhere. It's marketing and selective memory. Modern NVIDIA drivers suck a fat one in Vista, though they do suck less today than they did for Vista's first...uh...year.

Of course, my Radeon HD 4870 gets new WHQL drivers every month from ATI. The 8400M GS, even as far as modded drivers are concerned, should only be so lucky, and has the privilege of choosing from five million different beta releases.

 

Uhm Nvidia´s Big Bang II drivers have you tried these before making such a statement that they suck big time in Vista?

I can say that ATI´s drivers sucked big time when I had the X800XT. That has probably changed, but that was my last ATI GPU. Nothing wrong with ATI, they have great GPU´s. But I am so used to Nvidia now, love the Nvidia Control Panel and Rivatuner that I wouldn´t like to change back to ATI again. Besides I see no reason to upgrade yet. I had more issues with my ATI board than any Nvidia GPU. I did lean towards a 4870 though, but I will probably wait for Nvidia´s next iteration and then I don´t mean 280 GTX++ or anything like that. Completely new GPU´s.

I have had zero problems with the drivers for Nvidia though ever since I got my go 7800GTX and I don´t have any problems at all with today´s drivers. The Big Bang 2 aka 180.42 drivers did get my a massive boost.

Sure they are Beta drivers but they do work great.

Besides Vista as a whole for gaming is a P.O.S.

 

The only driver related issues I've had was that my last video card for my desktop, an 8800GT would read the native resolution of my monitor as 1280x720 when in fact it's 1920x1080, I could run everything in 1920x1080 fine, but for older games like starcraft it would go into 720P mode and be overscanned cutting off about 30% of all corners of the screen. Since upgrading to dual HD 4850's I never have this issue and it reads the native res as 1920x1080 fine, and no overscanning!

But really, going from the ATI Rage 3d, ATI MR 7500, ATI MR 9100IGP, ATI 9250 maddog, ATI 9600pro, Xpress 200m, ATI MR X600, ATI MR X1600, radeon X1600pro, ATI X1950XTX, nVidia 4, nVidia 5200LE, nVidia 5600, nVidia 6100IGP, NV 6600GT, NV 7600GT, NV 8600GT, NV 8700m GT, NV 8800GTS 320, NV 8800GT 512, and now to my current dual HD 4850's in crossfire, I really haven't had any issues aside from what I said above, which really wasn't that big an issue. All ran stable up until the day I sold them, well except the X1950 that I accidentally fried. But never really a driver problem.

And I guess if I had to choose which driver I like most, it would probebly be the Catalyst drivers, they're quicker to change settings, much like nVidia's older control panel where everything is just right there rather than going through all these annoying wizards and pages. Why do people say any drivers suck really? They do thier job, let the OS know how to handle that piece of hardware, and give you the options you need to change video related settings.

Aside from the drivers, it would be cool if they just skipped the MR HD 4850 cards. Instead put some serious R&D into the R870 mobile chips, and getting them to market in sync with the desktop versions. There's really nothing to look forward to with a mobile HD 4850, I would expect it to perform only slightly better than the 9800mGTX, but probebly at a premium.

 

True I agree with you unknown. If they could release the desktop and notebook iterations of their new GPU´s at the same time it would be much better.

I´ve never had the overscanning problem you have had though.

 

haha the only driver issues ive ever had have been with Nvidia, I agree ATI is much more stable