ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Laptops

Is asus the only maker at this current time?
Other makers? Out there?

 

Clevo W870CU (The Best ATM)
Asus G73 (The middle of the bunch)
MSI GX740 (The third down, but has more ports than the G73)

Between G73 and GX740, it's a toss up. Stock the MSI is the cheaper. But stock, the G73 comes with a lot more HDD, memory and screen. Once you upgrade the MSI to same specs, it's a lot more costly than the G73 and the screen still isn't FHD.

But like said, MSI has a the e-SATA, Express ports people sometimes require, G73 does not.

Stock performance between Clevo and the Asus with i7 720 and HD5870 is the SAME. The Clevo can be overclocked a little more safely. The G73 is MUCH MUCH QUIETER. But can't be overclocked as much or safely. Which to say, if you don't use your laptop to overclock, the G73 has no cooling problems.

There you go, hope that helps.

 

Going to have to find reseller for those Clevo and MSi.

Xoticpc?

 

You can get the Clevo from Xotic as Sager, and it's rebranded by any of the boutique custom laptop shops, with whatever idiotic name they come up for it.

RJTech sells the Clevo un-branded, probably the cheapest way.

If you want the warranty etc, go with Sager, Clevo laptops are warrantied by the reseller whereas a Sager is warrantied by them. The reseller warranty for Clevo IMO suck unless you pay out the #ss for it.

Never shopped for MSI before, but I know Xotic sells them.

Pricing

The cheapest with the best deal is the Asus G73, hands down, no question. The GPU is removable, modified MXM. Whether Asus makes the next gen using the same MXM no idea.
- Best warranty with 2 year parts and labor and 1 year accidental standard. My experience it's 3 business day turn around. I had the infamous Nvidias that fried... twice. They shipped overnight both ways for free via FedEx also.

Cheapest stock is the MSI. MSI only 1600*900 resolution, cannot upgrade the screen.

The Clevo most expensive stock and stock isn't as loaded as a G73. Clevo uses the standard MXM so should be upgradable.

Cooling, the Asus will be the quietest whereas Clevo probably the best. I have not read anything about MSI cooling so no idea.
- I believe the MSI is only one fan shared for both GPU and CPU, better double check that for yourself.
- The Asus while isn't as good as Clevo, it still has two very LARGE dedicated fans for each.
- The heatsinks for both CPU and GPU are copper on the Asus. Don't know what you call it, but the metal piece that covers the memory on the GPU is aluminum though.
- Clevo is ALL copper.
- How quiet is Asus? It's whisper silent. That's not a marketing game by Asus, it's truth and fact. Even under load while gaming is as loud as a Clevo at idle, at least the Clevos I've seen.

Hope that helps.

 

Try Clevo, MSI or Alienware?

edit: way too late lol

 

Alienware I think are waiting for the X-Fire HD5870 if that is going to be released.

Because the HD4870 X-Fire is still the King for Notebooks.

And tessellation in games so far is overrated. DX10.1 is still more than enough considering we've seen games being ported from DX9 Consoles.

 

I trying to go for eye infinity here so.
But I look at the sager and it doesn't seem to be giving out more video ports over the asus.

 

I don't know if EyeFinity is enabled on the Sager/Clevos.

But the Sager/Clevo comes with DVI port. Asus is only HDMI and VGA, no DVI.
- Because Eyefinity isn't enabled on the Asus, I believe they didn't offer DVI port because no need for it. HDMI to DVI cable for monitor or just straight HDMI for HDTV. The HDMI port also is HDMI audio.

If you want EyeFinity in a notebook, I've only seen it one way.
- An Acer Ferrari Netbook using the ATi GPU port connected to an external HD5870 connected to external monitors.

 

I barely consider having to disassemble the entire motherboard, "removable".

 

Why isn't it enabled?

 

Not enough POWAH!

It's about a HD5770 Desktop. It's half the HD5870.

 

It's removable, meaning non-integrated. The degree of how easy it is to remove is something entirely different. The Asus system isn't meant to be user upgradable like the Clevo.

 

IMO it's more for ease of replacing during repairs.

However, as we all know gaming grade laptops need to be maintained frequently, I'm not sure how accessible are the fans and vents in G73, if you have to take apart the motherboard every few months just to clean the dust from the fans and vents the thought could be daunting. For Sager, the fans and vents are accessible as soon as you open the back cover.

Just to add, Clevo W860CU has ATI 5870M as well, the only 15" amongst the laptops with 5870.

 

Dust doesn't get into the fans like they do on a Clevo so it's not the same. Clevo sucks dust directly into the system, there is no direct way for dust to suck into the fans on the G73.

If you've seen some of the videos with G73 apart, you can see just blasting the fans with some air is more than sufficient. No need to take apart.

 

Quick question,
Can a Laptop Video card, output to both HDMI and VGA/DVI at the same time?
Would this be ATi's "Eyefinity" ..but thats disabled?
Looking at the Sager NP8690 with an ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870.
Will this work and if so at what resolutions? Bonus points if you know if it can be done while using a Matrox TripleHead2go.

Thanks guys!

 

No current notebook supports 2 external displays natively. You'd need a dock or other device (such as the TripleHead) to get that.

 

Envy 17 supports 3 displays through Eyefinity. VGAx1, Mini-displayx1, HDMIx1.

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HP Elitebook 8740 also contains the ATI 5870 branded as a Firepro M7820. It benches the same as the regular radeon.

 

..ok so far sounds like the Envy 17 supports 3 displays through Eyefinity
and the Asus G73 will also.

Anyone know about the Sager NP8690 with the 5870? (or any card/ i7 laptop)

Thanks again!

Oh and already have the TripleHead.. Looking actually for two mirrored outputs, one to go to the TripleHead/ projectors, the other for monitoring that out. (yes I could split vga, but theres no way to split it before the Triplehead, unless the graphics card can send one to the vga/ tripleHead, then the other out the HDMI for a monitor of whats being sent to the projectors.

 

alienware m17x has dual crossfire 5870's just released. Ridiculous power.

 

whens the envy 17 to be out, seems like it should be out already..

 

yeah the M17x is a bit out of my price range once you get an i7 in there..
Still cool though.
So anyone know on out putting to both the HDMI and VGA at the same time?