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    ATI RS780 IGP benchmarks-New laptop buyers, do not waste money on Intel IGPs

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by IntelUser, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. IntelUser

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    ATI RS780 IGP benchmarks on 3DMark05/06

    AM2 Athlon X2 5000+(2.6GHz) Single Channel DDR2-800
    3DMark05: 2249
    3DMark06: 1082

    Dual Channel:
    3DMark05: 2475
    3DMark06: 1206

    Phenom 9600(2.3GHz) Single Channel DDR2-1066
    3DMark05: 2813
    3DMark06: 1313

    Dual Channel
    3DMark05: 3173
    3DMark06: 1533

    All results in 1280x1024

    E6600, Dual Channel DDR2-800, G965 system 14.29 drivers
    3DMark05: 1031
    3DMark06: 747

    All results in 1024x768

    The Phenom based, RS780 IGP is 3x faster in 3DMark05, and 2x faster in 3DMark06 at 1280x1024 resolution than G965 does at 1024x768.

    Let me show you how miserable G965 is in real life games: http://diy.yesky.com/mainboard/117/7746117_11.shtml

    E6300, Dual Channel DDR2-800, G965 with Vista 15.6.1 driver.

    The Nvidia Geforce 7150 is faster in games by 20-40%, even though the Intel IGP gets better 3DMark06 score. I know that their 3DMark05 scores are similar. Yet it doesn't reflect it on real world games.

    Can the X4500 catch up to the RS780 IGP, at least in 3DMark?? Nope. Intel claims 3x and 1.7x the performance of G33 and G35 respectively in 3DMark06. G33 gets ~330 and G35 gets ~630. X4500 will only muster 1100 3DMark06 points. The problem is that RS780 is coming this month while X4500 is coming April/May. Intel is going to need the Nehalem's integrated IGP to just catch up with the RS780 coming a full year earlier. It's going to be very difficult to make a driver for the upcoming X4500 to catch up to the RS780, and its not possible at all for the G965 to do it.

    The GM965 is even slower than the G965. This will tell you how bad Intel's IGPs are in comparison to ATI/Nvidia IGPs. Intel claims software mode runs faster than hardware?? Bah!! Because their IGPs suck.

    This is what the Nvidia MCP78U with Athlon X2 3600+, DC DDR2-800 gets in real life games:
    Half Life 2 800x600: 45.27
    Half Life 2 1024x768: 33.9
    Doom 3 800x600: 34.2
    Doom 3 1024x768: 23.2

    In Doom 3 with 640x480 and everything low, my G965 system gets average of less than 10 fps with a E6600 CPU, which is far more powerful than the X2 3600+. Not only the MCP78U with high end hardware like Core 2 and Phenom will perform so much faster, ATI's RS780 is said to be 10-20% faster than even the MCP78U.

    "RS780’s IGP will offer roughly 3X - 4X the 3D performance of the current 6-series chipsets."

    "it was able to play Call of Duty 4 at over 30FPS at 1024x768 with just the IGP, and in Hybrid CrossFire mode performance jumped to over 50FPS. We also saw Unreal Tournament 3 running on the same system. With the IGP alone, UT3 ran at about 27FPS at 1024x768 and scaled to 45FPS in Hybrid CrossFire mode."

    Conclusion: Wait for the RS780 IGP based chipsets to come out for laptops. This is gonna beat lots of low end discrete graphics!!
     
  2. Dustin Sklavos

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    Mind giving us a source here?
     
  3. anarky321

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    too bad Lenovo wont use these
     
  4. talin

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    OP's name and the title. Ironic. :D
    But yes, I'd like a source too.
     
  5. IntelUser

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    XD, I thought I provided a source, maybe it was another forum.

    Oh well: http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=70247

    Hybrid Crossfire claim: http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/AMD_Hybrid_CrossFire_Sneak_Peak/

    MCP78U: http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/main/reviews/0712/1189121_4.html

    (The E6600 results are from mine quite some time ago)

    One FAST IGP, the scores are nearly same as the 8400GS scores.

    About the name: I like Intel's products and hope they do well, but when they are so hopelessly behind, its hard not to support the alternative.