Ati Radeon Hd 3200 Question

what is the specs of this graphic card? i have it on my cq40-107au but i dont know what really its specs. when i look at the dxdiag, it shows that it is 892MB but i know it is a shared memory. if i increased my memory from 2gb to 3gb/4gb, will the 892mb rise?

 

Here you go- http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-3200.9591.0.html

As for the amount of memory allocated to graphics, the amount is pre-determined by HP and adding RAM won't specifically increase the graphics/video memory. However, the memory that is reserved for graphics is taken away from the total system memory. If you only have 2GB and the full 892mb is allocated to graphics, then you only have about 1.1GB for the remainder of the system. Increasing to 3GB would almost certainly boost system performance.

 

thanks now i know! =)

 

it might be able to change the memory in the BIOS

 

do you know how?

 

on my laptop ( ATI Radeon Xpress 1250), i can go into the bios and select 128Mb or 256Mb of shared memory, it should be in the settings somewhere

 

Its the best integrated out

 

@guitar hero

the best integrated? hw come? whats your basis?

 

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3430&p=4

I think the current best integrated vga goes to 9400M I think?

 

but do you think ati radeon hd 3200 is worth to buy in gaming?

 

The HD3200, for all intensive purposes, is considered a "bad" gaming card. It will run games though and many were surprised at how many it actually could run. Behind the 9400M GS, it is the 2nd most powerful integrated GPU on the market currently.

It'll depend on the games you want to play though. If your gaming performances don't require modern, power-hungry games(anything from 08-09), then the HD3200 will be a great choice since it'll run anything older pretty well and it'll decrease heat and increase battery life significantly.

 

Just a slight correction, HD3200 is the third fastest. the 9400m gs>>>9100m g>HD3200

 

Nope 9100m G is not faster than HD3200, since it got 8SP instead of 16SP on 9400M GS (ie half the horse power of 9400M)

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9100M-G.11351.0.html

 

True it does have 8sp but it is ether on par or slightly faster then a HD3200. Its close to a 8400m.

 

Integrated graphics cards like the HD 3200 are not intended for gaming. However, if you are on a tight budget, the Hd 3200 will give you the best gaming performance. Dont expect to be maxing out games, but most will be plenty playable on low settings and resolution. What is your budget? i migh be able to suggest something for you.

 

IT IS not faster than HD3200! Hence it only got 1200 3DMarks while HD3200 got over 1600 3DMark which also beat 8400M

If you got no proof then stop posting false information

 

The 9100M G is actually a pretty powerful IGP, but I believe it is slightly weaker than the HD3200 in actual performance. The HD3200 can perform on par if not slightly better than the dedicated 8400M GS in some contexts.

For all purposes, the HD3200 is a really really good IGP, but a bad GPU in general for gaming since there is much more powerful than it.

If you need more advice on a purchase kelvin, you can head over to the "what notebook shoudl I buy?" section and make a thread there

 

actually you should wait all the ATI integrated notebooks coming out now will have a ATI 3410 which should be about twice the performance of a ATI 3200

 

The 3410 I think is just a lower clocked 3450 with dedicated VRAM as opposed to the 3200 which is a VRAM-less 3450. As far as what is the best integrated GPU on the market, it depends on the GPU and what it is being used for. The 9400M is favored by games, especially since most game favor Nvidia off the bat, but the Radeon 3200 I remember seeing actually is better at video editing and playback.

 

What if you pair it up with a Mobility Radeon 3470 (Hybrid CroffFire)? To which other card is it comparable in terms of performance? A Geforce 8400M GT or something?

 

The 9100m G is a little faster than the X4500 and a little slower than the 8400m G.

You can't base a cards performance purely of how many shaders it has but in thin case where the 9400m has 16spu's @ 1100MHz and the 9100m has 8spu's @ 1080MHz you can
A higher core clock improves perfomance too.

 

actually i already a notebook and the specs are written in my signature. any suggestions on how to improve my rig?

 

There isn't much to improve as you can only change RAM, HDD and possibly CPU if you're experienced enough, but neither of those will really affect gaming that much.
- Adding RAM will increase overall performance if you hvae many processes or programs running at the same time
- Taking in a better HDD(such as 7200RPM instead of 5400RPM) will decrease load times and make the computer "faster"
- Putting a better CPU will increase brute processing power, which will be useful if you run calculation applications or CPU intensive games(such as RTS games)

Other than that, there isn't much to be done. As I've said, he HD3200 will perform well as long as you don't expect too much of it(don't try any new generation power-hungry games)

 

But shader is the most important factor in terms of performance, followed by memory bandwidth, but of course juding shader number vs other competitor's is a bit difficult since the shader structure is different on each company.

You would never see a 9600GT beating 8800GT/9800GT on game performance no matter how high it oc

 

uhhmm is ati radeon hd 3200 can be oc? if yes, how? what will happen if a GPU is overclocked? what cons will it produce when done?

 

ATi cards have shaders clustered in 5s, and refered to as being 5 dimensional shaders. For example the Radeon 3200/3450 GPU is 8 x 5 dimensional shaders = 40 shaders. From experience, dividing the overall shader amount in ATi cards by 4 or 5 gives a good equivalent to Nvidia's shader structure performance wise. Of course clock speeds are going to definitely come into play.

 

thanks for all of the people who posted on my thread. =) now my doubts about my rig are gone. =)

 

They're both very powerful intergrated cards, but the 9400M is noticeably stronger in games.

 

Chipsets with the ATI Radeon HD 3200 are relatively capable. Intel chipsets with integrated graphics don't even come close. You can probably play pre-2006 titles fine on mostly low settings. I wouldn't consider that gaming though. It's casual gaming. I suggest you get a laptop with a mid-range dedicated GPU (Geforce 8600M, 9500M, 9600M, Radeon HD 2600, HD 3650).

I suggest you check this article at Anandtech. The 'AMD 780G' represents the one with the Radeon HD 3200: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3430&p=4

 

Hey, for a decent list of how the 3200HD performs, check out our thread over at tabletpcreview.com

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?t=18695

We've tried to keep it up to date, will give you a pretty good idea of what the gpu can do... Good Luck!

EDIT: The thread is title TX2500 Gaming, but it's the same ATI 3200HD

 

thanks for the reply be77solo

 

no prob! I've been really impressed with the little 3200! Not a top of the line performer for latest games, but plays everything I throw at it! And I love the battery life when I'm not gaming.

 

yeah. hmm my laptop suit me well in doing my assignments, projects, programming stuff and playing online games. 3200 maybe as they said, the third/second most powerful IGP card in laptops today, well thats good to hear the both of us.

@be77solo

have you overclocked your gpu? or can it be overclock?

 

supposedly it can be, check out this thread for some info.... it's for how to underclock the GPU, but will go the other way as well, but haven't tried it...

My biggest concern is the tablet that mine is in runs fairly warm at stock speeds, so wonder how much hotter it will run overclocked... but, your machine might be a bit bigger with better cooler, so could work well... here's the link:

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?t=23447

 

Yes the Hd3200 is avery good gpu for its intended use. The 9100m g is also very good gpu just hard to find on any laptop other then the acer 4530. I believe they are pretty much equal in performance game wise. my 9100mg plays Prey, doom 3 on high setteings and most 2-3year old games are med to high settings at 1200x800 res.

 

uhhmm question again bout this igp. catalyst control in linux shows that the memory size of this card is 256mb. is this the real size of the card w/out getting from the main memory or it is the total amount shared memory? when i open dxdiag, it shows that i have approximately 892mb of memory size on my card. im a little confused.


PS:

do you have games played in this igp? can you list down some games that are worth playing?

 

The one in the HP Tablets have 64MB of dedicated memory, but HP calls it "side port" memory, but it's essentially the same thing. That's dedicated to the IGP, and then the rest is shared from the main system memory.

Not sure on yours, it could be all shared, or could have some dedicated as well... but, probably not 256, so I'd guess that's just what the linux driver is using... ie, only taking 256MB of the system memory, where as the windows driver is using 892MB.

And, for games, check that thread I posted on the tablet forum, it's got 17 pages of games listed that we've tested and played with results.

EDIT: personally, Crysis Warhead is very enjoyable at 800x600, Call of Duty 4 runs great at 1280x800 when you enabled 2.0 shaders, all the Half Life's 1, 2, EP's run great, TF2, Portal, plus anything older than those should run totally fine to great.

 

ive tried playing Devil May Cry4 using low setting in 1280X766( idont know if 766 is right) and it runs on 34+ fps =)


EDIT:

where can i find your thread in tablet review? cant find it hehe

 

Kelvin, don't mean to nitpick. But a rig is something you can build or tweak, such as that found in desktop PCs. Hardly anybody would call a notebook a rig. For starters, CPU and GPUs on notebooks these days are non-user-upgradeable, and worse, can't be overclocked. And we haven't even come to customization of the case and rigging the PC with strange contraptions such as liquid nitro cooling.

As for the claim of HD3200 losing out to Nvidia 9400M... If the HD3200 is found on a desktop motherboard, such as this one, it can be BIOS-overclocked from 500MHz to a very stable 900MHz. At that speed I had Assassin's Creed running in medium setting @ 800x600 relatively smoothly.

BTW the reason I came on this thread is to find out if there is any way to overclock the CPU on the CQ40. Anybody?

 

"Rig" can mean alot of things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rig
He was obviously refering to his notebook which is what matters

Running assassins creed on medium is pretty impressive for the 3200, my 8400m GT(overclocked) can just about manage those settings @ 1024 x 640:\

A quick google tells me that your notebook can ship with either a pentium D, a pentium dual core or a core 2 duo So which model & processor do you have?

Also cpu's are very upgradable in notebooks.

 

Sorry, still doesn't qualify a notebook as a "rig". Either put up with that fact or join the league of gaming/desktop builders. Or you may go the easy route (eg. cheat) with Alienware notebooks. But just don't expect to earn any street cred for having A) insanely overpaid jobs or B) rich parents.

That's why people love desktop PCs. They're dirt cheap and they open their world to overclocking possibilities, making otherwise lowly HD3200 a fast GPU that can almost approach a 9400m. I myself were totally impressed because my desktop rig runs on Nvidia 8200, and this chip is utter crap for overclocking, not to mention super hot despite having a heatpipe.

Not so, the last time I looked. At least not with the sub-$600 notebooks, of which HD3200 is often found in. Also, HD3200 is strictly an AMD solution. Intel notebooks of this price range normally ship with G45 IGP, which as you prolly know, is only minor improvement over the x3100. See my other post for the actual scores.

 

Yay! This thread is really nice especially to those who have 3200 HD based laptops...

Does anybody know how to change the memory size of this graphics processor???

 

Curious what 3dmarks does the hd 3200 receive. My hd 3450 recieves 1849 with a core 2 duo processor. AND IT has 256mb dedicated memory.

 

In 3dmark06 at 1280x800 I got a score of 1555. Not terrible considering it's integrated graphics.

 

Hi everyone. Need help.

I bought a HP DV5-1140BR to work and play O?NLY CS 1.6 (expeting no fps drops).

AMD 780G Chipset with ATI Radeon™ HD 3200 Graphics

However, the fps do not stick in 100fps. If I drop a smoke granade and walk thru it, my fps drops to 20/30 ! Resolution 1280x800 at 16bits color. I tried 800x600 and fps drops to 30/40. Tried to change beetwen opengl and direct3D with same results.

Play crysis at low ??? Are you guys kidding me ? I cant even play CS 1.6 ! What is happening here ??

I tried drivers 8.12 and 9.3 from ATI page and 8.53 from HPs website. Same result.

Can you help me ? Please ...

Could be the power supply?
Adaptador A/C 65W AC adapter

Notebook:
AMD Turion X2 RM-70 2Ghz
3GB RAM DDR2 800Mhz
HD 250GB 5400rpm
VGA AMD 780G Chipset with ATI Radeon™ HD 3200 Graphics
Adaptador A/C 65W AC adapter
WINDOWS VISTA 32bit

 

May be you could try custom drivers! This thread is great!!!! My friend has just bought an acer with an ati 3200. I will forward him this link so that he can see the full potential of this graphics card!!!!

 

I was wondering how he can play COD4 in 1024x768 resolution... will try this once I get back home in the Philippines.

Of course this IGP is the best well the third best I wanted to get a 9100 since it is slighly better for gaming but this was cheaper by quite a lot so no biggie.

 

i have searched everywhere at bios.. i dont have a single clue how to do this anymore....i really wan to upgrade the grAphics/video card memory. can anybody plz help me...

 

HD 3200 is a pretty low end graphics on AMD notebooks, but it is more than capable of running Counter Strike: Source. Here it is running HL2: Lost Coast. There might be something wrong with your setup. Or it could be netplay that causes the hiccup, I'm can't say for sure without checking your system.

I kid you not. HD3200 on a rig (AKA desktop set, not notebook) can be overclocked to 1GHz in the BIOS. And yes, you need a cooler for that. At that speed you can run Crysis up to medium setting at low rez, no more than 832x480. HD3200 is pretty much useless on a notebook.