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    ATI mobility x1300 vs Nvidia 7300 go

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by kaf, Aug 8, 2006.

  1. kaf

    kaf Newbie

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    Does anyone know if there is any real difference between these two cards?
    Any thoughts on which one is better?

    And more importantly for me. Is the difference between the two cards big enough for it to be a factor in which laptop I buy?
     
  2. skywalker

    skywalker Business Notebook FTW!!

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    I dont think the difference would be big for two cards. You can look the comparison at notebook vga guide section. But from my experience, X1300 outperforms 7300 in 3DMark03/05 but not significant. For light gaming both cards is same, you hardly notice the diff.between them.
     
  3. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    The go7300 is probably a bit faster if your playing nvidia optimised games
    (doom3, quake4), and the x1300 will be a bit faster playing ATI optimised games (half life2).
     
  4. skywalker

    skywalker Business Notebook FTW!!

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    but as far as i know X1300 has 128bit memory interface vs 64bit in 7300Go
     
  5. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    that is true, but nvidia's turbocache technology is actually quite good, so both graphics cards are very evenly matched.
     
  6. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah I would say the x1300 has slightly better performance, although if you plan on gaming I would suggest something along the lines of a 7400/X1400...
     
  7. _radditz_

    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    the go 7300 is apaulingly bad at gaming! I get 1496 is 3Dmark05 which is very low. Quake 4 is impossible unless i play on low settings/low res.
     
  8. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    Its kind of funny as I see the 7300go with 512mb of vram when the 7300 cant even use 256mb effectively. Where as the 1300 can with 128bit.

    Funny how they market things these days...video is more gpu based then vram based nowadays.
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Actually, its not :D

    Actually, no it cant :D

    Sheesh, a lot of misinformation flying around.

    The x1300 is better, a 128bit bus gives it the edge in mem bandwidth but due to the higher clocks of the memory on the 7300 this only leads to about 33% advantage for the x1300. Plus the 7300 has a higher core clock and an extra vertex unit giving it a bit more power in that regard. Its just the cards at this end are starved for bandwidth so it has such a large effect.
     
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    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    I dont know how much dedicated vram my card has, ive seen 64 and 128MB versions but in the Nvidia control panel it says its a 512MB card thanks to TC. I cant disable TC otherwise i'd happily keep it at a very generous 256MB. **** turbocache....
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    All the cards listed under "low end" should be equiped with 128mb of dedicated ram for best performance.
     
  12. Chele

    Chele Notebook Consultant

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    I agree i think that low end cards won't be able to use to much memory, because they are not fast enought.
     
  13. jeffmd

    jeffmd Notebook Evangelist

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    512, wow, nvidia didnt know when to stop with its turbocache setting. ^^ Luckly i havnt read any reports saying anytime ou enter a game, it gobbles as much memory it reports being capable of, so it must be pretty dynamic in its use.

    I havn't heard of either hybrid solution being superior at all. The extra vertex shader in the geforce sounds like it might give it a boost in shadered games, but that 64bit memory bus really hacks it down to below the x1300. :/

    I'd only look at the geforce if you planned to run linux, as I hear ATIs notebook drivers in linux are crap.
     
  14. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    so your saying a x1300 cant utilize 256mb? Ididnt mean 512mb, but only 256 sorry for the miscomunication.
     
  15. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    Actually Meaker turbocache is well implemented, so much so that a card with 64mb onboard and 64mb of RAM will pretty much perform the same as the same card with only 128 dedicated (if you want proof look up teh results for go7300 with 64 on board and those with 128 onboard, they are pretty much identical) - this is beacuse of the low bandwidth within the go7300 for memory will slow down the onboard memory accessing ability

     
  16. Meaker@Sager

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    All pci express chips can do this, im an ATI beta tester I remember when they implemented it for ALL cards, the 7300 is just so POOR that it cant use above 64mb, its significantly slower than an x600 and thats not too far off not needing 128mb, obviously in later titles it helps, but the 7300 is a lost cause for these titles.
     
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    ibmps3cell Notebook Enthusiast

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    i think that Nvidia 7300 or another one of the 7 series is actullay only as powerful as the nividia 6600
     
  18. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    I didn't think that was true, it gets similar results in 3d mark 05, so it can't be "significantly" slower
     
  19. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    I believe that is because it supports the latest shader models and such. In terms of raw power, and X600 would blow away a 7300.

    As for advantages to the 7300, nVidia have much better Linux and OpenGL driver support than ATi does, so the 7300 is a good budget solution for linux-type people.
     
  20. Tokuman

    Tokuman Notebook Evangelist

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    You are very wrong. The go6600 is a decent card... the 7300 stinks.
     
  21. Juz_Follow_ATI

    Juz_Follow_ATI ATI all the way

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    Where the heck did you get that from? The 6600 is a ton more powerful than the 7300. The 7300 sucks. Also the ATI X1300 is more powerful than the 7300 go by a small margin.
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

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    Please check my sticky for rankings.
     
  23. dudesdudets

    dudesdudets Notebook Deity

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    I get around 2000 with the clock set to 433/739(E1505).
    The card stays around 40-43 degrees and goes up to 50-52 when used heavily.
     
  24. Emotion

    Emotion Notebook Guru

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    I like my 7400 go :)