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    ATI stutter reduction tricks

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by alex2009, Oct 24, 2011.

  1. alex2009

    alex2009 Notebook Consultant

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    Here's some tricks I've found strangely to work.

    1. do a clean uninstall of your current drivers deleting all extracted drivers from your AMD and ATI folders on your C drive. Restart your comp.

    2. Install an 11 series driver which doesn't have alot of stutter - I picked 11.5b - follow the instructions, installing only the very basics - display driver, catalyst control panel, etc - then restart your comp.

    3. Now install the drivers that work best for your card(without uninstalling the previous drivers) again, only install the basics I installed the latest 11.10 preview drivers, which give me a nice performance boost.

    Now this reduced my stuttering from really visible (the stutter in Grid was like having a half a second delay in turning, I hit alot of walls) to very subtle.


    This is on my 5650m card, so give it a shot, I've noticed every time I install 'over' a previous driver install the new driver performs differently. I know technically its not supposed to but, computers do what they do and thats it.
     
  2. Mexic00ls

    Mexic00ls Notebook Deity

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    technically your only supposed to uninstall if your switching from lets say 10.xx to an 11.xx. An 11.xx to an 11.xx does not require any uninstalling. fyi
     
  3. Zymphad

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    Technically you are wrong and that's straight from AMD. AMD instructs you to uninstall before installing any drivers. Every page for installing drivers has a link to instructions on how to uninstall and install new drivers.
     
  4. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    I only do a clean install if i used a prerelease or beta driver.
     
  5. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    I don't see why this would be any better than just installing the latest version of the driver. You're hoping to combine driver traits like genetic traits (and the positive traits exclusively, no less!). I'm not convinced it works the way that you have convinced yourself it does.
     
  6. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    so essentially, you installed the 11.10s that stopped your stuttering
     
  7. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    TL;DR - update to the latest drivers to get rid of stuttering. very well.
     
  8. MadRocker

    MadRocker Notebook Guru

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    Yup you should actually uninstall or format the pc / laptop with each new driver then run the drivers, removing win7 video driver. There is always some garbage from a previous install that stays behind. That is why we used to use NFR nasty file remover back in the old days.

    @OP does this happen with single player as well, if so you can try to tone down some settings like AA and AF as some of them is useless or causes some ugly mist type effect and not the normal crisp clear appearance and the extra resources from gpu / cpu they use is just not worth it for me.

    Online gameplay would need to be equivalent of 90% of single player video settings to get the same feel to compensate for delays and other internet issues. 80% would be perfect to compensate for spikes and other issues that randomly occur. This does not count for hardcore 4x xfire 6990 desktop gpu's on a evga SR2 dual xeon system.

    If only internet then look at lag / packet loss and play around with alternative dns server ip's, globalcrossing in Texas used to have major issues not apparent in trace or other testing but apparent in online gaming "iptv equivalent data" when globalcrossing used to bottle neck a lot. Same goes for some Colorado based servers or data going via Colorado. It might be different for other users.

    This would try and route where possible and say 10 ISP is connected to a router / server branch, it would use the least congested on of them or have a preference to a specific isp back haul making for better online gaming.

    All this depends on how competent the game server hosting company was when setting up their systems and who later tweaked the settings for each server. Learned this from huge volume international data syncing over bad latency connections.
     
  9. key001

    key001 Notebook Evangelist

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    You have to do those 3 steps starting exactly at midnight. You must put a crucifix on your psu and the arrow on the Enter key should be pointed towards Mecca. Obviously, if you're not in the Middle East, that means it should be pointing towards the ground. If you're directly opposite to Mecca, you must spin your laptop on its side, bu only while your windows is booting.
     
  10. alex2009

    alex2009 Notebook Consultant

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    No, did that, had massive stuttering... reverted back to 11.5 little to no stuttering. of course you tried the steps out first before posting?

    if you've used computers for any length of time you should know a piece of code describes what SHOULD happen, not what does happen, a very useful lesson from my computing teacher 8 years ago.

    In a computer's world the comodo scan would start at midnight so you couldn't install drivers that would involve restarting the comp and then you would have to start the scan over again which is silly, your PSU wouldn't know its a PSU because windows didn't recognize it and called it a toaster, your enter key is, of course, not an enter key but a window frame with shards of glass where the window was, you would have to get permission from the UAC first before pointing your crucifix towards mecca and even when it gets permission it would need to go online ask a database where mecca is... and you guessed it, it comes up incompetent again, sorry blank, but I do agree that spinning the laptop on its side would make a difference because windows likes it when it gets dizzy and confused and doesn't know where it is which seems to be all the time.


    I'd really love to say it makes sense and give you what you want but computers don't work that way. If you use computers you have to accept that random events occur, in my case on a daily basis, why wouldn't it? you have an operating system with a couple hundred thousand files, hundreds of programs, then third party programs, firewalls, antivirus, different software manufacturers, different componentry, different laptop makers each make their cards different designs, with their own specific drivers, game companies each create their own engine (rage) which work better than others, then the digital download clients that are running during the game playing... I could go on, But understand that these factors can be paired in combinations going into billions and you expect it to work all logically and hunky dorey?! get real, if you haven't had a random unexplained event happen on your computer your either a naive carebear or you are lying. That was the basis of the first ever joke in the IT crowd its that obvious!

    and yes, you got me! I put it up knowing that some sap would be sitting at their computer going through my steps to no avail, getting their hopes up. I get such a thrill from that!

    I like how you did something different with your wit and went for religion, don't think anyone's done that before...

    It was nice trying to help you, it was so much fun, I think I'll keep my solutions to myself next time and forego the worthwhile responses from 'experts' such as yourselves.

    Its true what they say y'know... adults are just monkeys with suits on
     
  11. Zymphad

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    Why bother? As he said, uninstall, install latest. I don't have any micro-stuttering. And 11.5 are not some magic driver.

    Also most of us did have 11.5 installed months ago...
     
  12. alex2009

    alex2009 Notebook Consultant

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    read

    read, then read your reply, its hilarious
     
  13. Zymphad

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    Not hilarious. It's rather stupid to just shrug, throw up hands, computers do what they do...

    That's idiotic. Sprinkle some more fairy dust why don't you?

    And lastly, it's a really stupid solution to getting rid of micro-stuttering. Just do it, it just does what it does, it's magic... Whatever... Keep it to yourself then.
     
  14. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    there's a huge difference between something that's random and something where we don't know how it works.

    if you don't know how graphics card drivers work, then there isn't much sense in trying all combinations of possible things you could do to improve performance.

    have you tried install 11.10, then 11.5, then 11.9? How about install 11.5, then 11.10, then uninstall and install 10.2, then start over with 11.10? Maybe try holding down right ctrl while you're doing it.

    Not trying to be mean, but if it's magic to you, then you don't know anything for sure. You might have installed 11.5, then 11.10, and found that it was better than just 11.10. Maybe your original 11.10 installation failed. Maybe your original 11.10 installation wasn't really a clean install. Maybe a million other things.

    As far as incompatibilities and unexpected behavior in the computer, yes. Random events in the computer? No.
     
  15. MahmoudDewy

    MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!

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    ATI stutter reduction = kill MoM.exe & CCC.exe ... or do like i do and just dont install the Catalyst Control Center

    I didn't really believe that till i actually tried it ... it was legendary ... tested it on like 20 games which used to stutter and BAM ... its all gone :D
     
  16. alex2009

    alex2009 Notebook Consultant

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    Oh my God, I'm so glad you liked it! hey wait a minute... you aren't being sarcastic are you?!


    Never said it was magic, I said it worked for me. yep I had 3 11.10 installations fail and it increased my previous drivers scores by 40 marks in 3d mark and ran 4 games at 5 frames faster.

    your right, I'm wrong, bye
     
  17. MahmoudDewy

    MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!

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    lol im not really sarcastic ... I knew the CCC sucked ... didn't know it sucked that bad but I had sometime and was curious to do some testing ... thank god that i did :)

    Just uninstall ur CCC and keep only the driver and other stuff ... believe me u will feel the difference