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    Aion: The Tower of Eternity

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Conviction, Sep 7, 2009.

  1. Conviction

    Conviction Notebook Guru

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    Payment games are usually the ones to kill cheats and cheaters.

    This is one of the reasons you actually 'PAY' for them.
     
  2. tizzao

    tizzao Notebook Evangelist

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    I haven't seen a speedhacker yet. Actually, this game is pretty fun. I might buy this one.

    And there is no grind. I mean, if you consider questing grinding then yes, there is. The quests in this game are a bit more fun to do than lets say, wow quests. Cutscenes and narration make it pretty cool.

    Has anyone done the quest to find the one guy's pet pig?
     
  3. Conviction

    Conviction Notebook Guru

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    It'd be more fair to compare it with the coming expansion of the game though cause Wrath of the Lich King is becoming out-dated a bit and you know Blizzard when they find a game targeting an attack on their game.

    I'm ready to get Aion though.
     
  4. Pittythefool

    Pittythefool Newbie

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    i pre purchased the Collectors edition and when i played one of the betas i immediately uninstalled and demanded my money back. the original screenshots made me think, wow. but when i played it. it made me feel physically sick.

    i managed to get my money back from steam. best decision i ever made. (related to aion anyway)
     
  5. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    LOL:laugh:
     
  6. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    FFXI was rampant with RMT and hacks; I'd assume any MMO is just as vulnerable.
     
  7. skoreanime

    skoreanime Notebook Consultant

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    Hahaha, yes! Choked on my drink when the cut scene happened :D
     
  8. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Poor Tutty :(
     
  9. exodusprime1337

    exodusprime1337 Notebook Enthusiast

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    lawl poor tutty is right, i laughed my off. I have to say the rampant amount of cutscenes is one of the reason's i like aion, it takes away from the grind of questing and kinda gives you the inclination to push on. I'm by far not a hardcore mmo player anymore as wow cut into work and sschool a bit to much, and this seemed like an mmo from my time playing that pushes you through a sort of story while doing the normal mmo thing. I to pre purchased for the headstart and for the beta, i'm enjoying myself so far, and yes the game is friggon beautiful, and so glad it plays maxed out on my g71, makes me happy i decided to try it, however nothing hasn't played great on my g71 except crysis of course, but that plays like crap on most pc's lol.
     
  10. st0nedpenguin

    st0nedpenguin Notebook Evangelist

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    The last thing I want when trying to chain a bunch of quests is having to skip cutscenes every 5 minutes.

    Not to mention those same cutscenes on alts being 10x as annoying as they were the first time.
     
  11. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Every game has it's hacks and cheats but some are more vulnerable than others. Typically MMOs that store the bulk of their files server-side (like WoW) are less vulnerable and hacks are less rampant because cheats can't access those files without being detected. Things like speedhacks usually occur because the the MMO's game files are located client-side on the players PC, where cheats can hack them freely and there's very little the MMO can do to detect them. Ultima Online, and more recently Darkfall, had this problem....I never played FFXI so I don't know where the game files are located but for AION that 9+Gb client download for open beta makes it sound like the files are on the user's side.


    Banning doesn't stop cheats and hacks if they want to play the game. They'll go out and buy another account, or another copy of the game (which the MMO companies love because it's more money in their pocket) and start again. The only way to prevent rampant cheating is to fix the holes and hacks that allow them and that cuts into profits which even the pay-to-play MMOs don't like at all. Fixes are slow and expensive but promises are cheap and that's what game devs will feed players until the honest ones get fed up and quit....and at that point the game is already over. The more rampant the cheating/hacking the faster the honest players will quit and soon all the playerbase that's left with are the cheats...at that point if the MMO keeps banning them there will be no one left.


    This is part of where I get my favorite MMO saying that MMOs don't get murdered they commit suicide. MMOs get killed by their own poor development they don't get beat by some new game that comes out...and no MMO has ever recovered from it's own bad development.
     
  12. Signal2Noise

    Signal2Noise Über-geek.

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    QFT. Funcom should read this. :D
     
  13. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    I'd like to point out that L2 (also by NCSoft) at one point had some cheats that worked, but the NC West did a reasonably good job (at the time) of stamping them out then a software update came that killed it and kept it dead.

    L2 is alive and kicking 5 years later...

    I'll be skipping Aion for now, I prefer L2.

    Every beta tester I know has quit Aion to return to their current game. People try it, and decide its reasonably entertaining, but find some fatal flaw to the game. It's pretty, no doubt, but its lacking and the community is low-ball for an eastern MMO due to the ritalin-generation levelling curve.
     
  14. madpoet

    madpoet Notebook Evangelist

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    I enjoy it a lot, but there's no doubt it's a shift back to a more traditional grind than a lot of gamers are used to now. I quickly outquested my levels. It looks beautiful running at max settings on my laptop though :)
     
  15. skoreanime

    skoreanime Notebook Consultant

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    That shouldn't be an issue upon NA release. Patch 1.5 will introduce quite a few more quests from what I've read. And a bunch of instances.
     
  16. Riotcontrol

    Riotcontrol Notebook Guru

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    I was playing it until my nvidia chip died :( the game seems to be entertaining and I will probably purchase it once my laptop is back up and running
     
  17. NotSoTecnical

    NotSoTecnical Notebook Guru

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    I pre- ordered it and I cant wait to play it i just need a ride to the mall :/
     
  18. Krazzy

    Krazzy Notebook Consultant

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    Been running this on my DV2. Rather surprised it actually runs pretty well.

    The game seems interesting, though I think I'm gonna hold off on pre ordering. Haven't really found anything to really pull me in yet.
     
  19. GamingACU

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    Been playing the beta for the last week, only made it to level 12 so far, but I'm really enjoying it. There seems to be a lot more depth and skill requirement to play than WoW, and there's a decent player base for just a beta. Not to mention I can run max settings and still get upwards of 100fps.
     
  20. st0nedpenguin

    st0nedpenguin Notebook Evangelist

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    It has nothing to do with the location of the game client, the hacks are referred to as client side because the client processes things like character location and speed and sends the info to the server, rather than having it processed by the server directly.

    It's less resource and bandwidth intensive, which is why it's so common.
     
  21. sabricaze

    sabricaze Notebook Evangelist

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    Not trying to be rude here, but how much "harder" is it than wow? Does the combo system make it harder? Or the new flying option? More depth? It has an awfully weak story line, from level 1-30 at least (more like almost none), and more "skill" required was understanding/knowing the combo and... flying.

    I'm tempted too. I don't mean I don't like the game. This game is nearly purely grinding (just like many other MMOs). Quest leads you to grinding for another quest that leads you to another grinding and so on. People say this game isn't about grinding, but from my experience since the past open beta, it's ALL about grinding. Maybe if you reach the higher level, you'd enjoy some dungeons and raids or something, but then again, I heard this game will be more pvp oriented than pve. I have about 5 days to decide, although, I'm leaning towards not getting it... so far.
     
  22. Serenity529

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    I have played both korean and taiwanese version of Aion. This game is purely grinding. The fastest way to level up is to grind. Doing side quests will only slow you down.

    Speed hack is the biggest problem with Aion, as there is no fixes from NCsoft yet. Speed hacks allow you to run at maximum speed and attack 10 times faster. Dont be surprise if some hacker kill your meat character in the matter of seconds.(less than 3 seconds-.-)
     
  23. Vinyard

    Vinyard Notebook Evangelist

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    So is this game worth buying? I mean, I'm playing like five games currently and I'm not sure if it's worth playing another game. The game sounds great and all but I need to be convinced before buying it.
     
  24. Tyo

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    Well the game launches today as a headstart for those that pre-ordered. Been waiting a loooong time for this to finally come out. Servers are filling up quick, some are already locked as population is full, some have one race locked out and filling out the second. They hit big numbers of players, lets just hope it won't die as fast as WAR, when most didn't wanna pay past the first free month.
    gl to u all and I'm on Zikel server as Tyo....
     
  25. Kerozinn

    Kerozinn Notebook Enthusiast

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    only like 6 h left til headstart.

    played aion in chinas OB + EU Cb+Ob..got preorder ofcourse :)

    will be playin on Votan with whole Legion.
     
  26. Reaper05

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    well i was considering this game until i found out it is made by NCsoft. After Tabula Rasa i will never buy an ncsoft game again. they should have at least let private severs. grrrrrr.
     
  27. sabricaze

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    ... ... ... ... ...
     
  28. Snowm0bile

    Snowm0bile Starcraftologist

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    oh great, it already started and i could be downloading it right now. i didnt know when it was suppose to pre release.
     
  29. Tyo

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    the game's fun, but it's a bit challenging, it's not as easy as other mmos I tried before and it makes it that much more fun to play.
     
  30. KernalPanic

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    -PvE Combat is not quite as pre-decided in Aion as it is in WoW where you are guaranteed to win. I hear even he high-level mobs aren't anywhere near as tough as they were in Everquest (where 1v1 vs ANY mob, the odds were stacked against you) but its not like WoW where dying while not AFK is almost completely impossible.

    -PvP is a bit more about using the RIGHT combo/attack and not just wailing on your "win" button like WoW.

    -Death in both PvE and PvP means something in NCSoft games. Its not like WoW where they pretty much reward you for being so horrible as to lose in a guaranteed win situation. Dying in Aion means you go backwards (lose XP), and the typical WoW strategy of "piling corpses until you win" doesn't work. Dying 1500 times in WoW means absolutely nothing. Dying 100 times in Aion means you are a lesser character in quite visible ways. (your level is lower)
     
  31. Boknora

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    i gotta go with WoW being better than Aion atm. I'm not saying WoW is good, but I am saying that Aion isn't either. So far, Aion pvp is unbalanced in many ways. The sorceror just deals so much damage. On the bright side, flying for pvp is pretty nice. It adds a new touch to the pvp environment. Also believe when I say that the pve content is not as strategic as WoW. From what I've seen in the videos of Aion end-game at 50 or whatever, the bosses are basically tank n spank. Oh and leveling is mostly grinding for levels instead of quests.
     
  32. Snowm0bile

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    id say the PvE is better in Aion after playing it and playing wow for a long time.

    If youre fighting an NPC, you can jump over him and hit him in the back before he turns around. where as in wow, the npc follows u around no matter what.
     
  33. sabricaze

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    PVE CONTENT is better in WOW, without a question. Aion surely should have taken what's wrong in WOW and made it better, just like Snow has described, but that only shouldn't be the determining factor in deciding which is better.

    WOW offers so much variable areas (at least from level 1-60) to level, quest, and do stuff. AION is VERY linear, as in you only have one area for every level. In that aspect, Aion can get VERY boring, probably after your first or second toon. PVP in games like WOW or AION will be unbalanced. It's really hard to make all those classes be balanced. In that aspect, Guild Wars did an excellent job at that. Both games PVE are tank and spank. How CAN you change that?

    I'm not saying Aion is worse than WoW. Each game has its own pros and cons. Aion has an amazing graphics and I would absolutely LOVE to continue playing. Then again, WoW is getting quite old.
     
  34. Snowm0bile

    Snowm0bile Starcraftologist

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    im just hoping the pvp is better than AoC
     
  35. st0nedpenguin

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    It doesn't sound like you've ever actually played WoW.
     
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    Got to tell you... on my system at max settings it's simply stunning. When I get to play after a 4 hour queue that is...
     
  37. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    Oh, but I have... have you?
     
  38. Snowm0bile

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    are you playing on a Low server?

    I havent had to wait for any qs
     
  39. Tyo

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    lol, yeah queues are horrible, cuz it's a launch, everyone is trying to login at the same time, population is not spread out, 400k pre orders + whoever bought copy today, u do the math, do u want even slightest % of the people login in at the same time ? can u imagine 1k ppl being let in, what would u kill ? where would u move ? that would b chaos. they will pass and servers will b healthy with good population. No mmo had flawless starts and u have to look at the big picture, not at "but I want to play now"

    ^
    for whoever thinks queues are bad :)
     
  40. st0nedpenguin

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    Only since closed beta.

    Have you even tried any current hard modes? They render your completely possible to die comment laughable.

    And even a retarded chimp with one hand will kill any class attempting to spam a single button in PVP.
     
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    Not yet, but I followed its development. I'm a WoW burnout, and I'm not sure I want to pick up an Aion habit :D
     
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