Alienware Now has the 660M & 675M

Check out Alienware's website - they now have laptops with the 660M & 675M. I priced 2 out for my self and their just too expensive... I'll just keep using my old E1705 with a 7900 Go as my gaming laptop if I game on the go. But I usually don't game on laptops, I game on my desktop. I reserve my out of warranty laptops for gps, school, and vacations, so I rarely want to use these laptops to make them last longer.

Unfortunately, the new Alienware laptops aren't Ivy Bridge. And their spare P.S. claims 240 Watts - too much power to use in a car for gps.

I can't believe you guys would spend $2600 to $3600 for a gaming laptop when this could buy you a great gaming desktop. I guess my next laptop will be IVY Bridge with low power consumption and a good enough graphics card with 1920 x1200 resolution if possible.

 

AW doesn't have Ivy Bridge because no one has Ivy Bridge yet. You can be sure it'll be there in a week or two.

I can see you have the $600 warranty in your examples. Can you build a desktop with a 4-year, accidental damage warranty? Also, Windows 7 Professional does nothing for 99.9% of people, few people need a Blu-ray drive, and anyone who chooses AW's outrageously expensive RAM upgrades rather than buying it themselves are making a big mistake.

 

You are posting in the gaming section of a forum for laptop owners, sir.

There are obviously many of us who need the portability of a laptop and still enjoy running games at 900p or 1080p.

And there are quite a few that can deliver decent frame rates at those resolutions these days, a number of them retailing below $1k.

 

That is so grossly overpriced it's not even funny.

 

I agree, it is overpriced. And I would wait for Ivy Bridge / Kepler anyhow. If you're going to spend the money then why not wait a few more weeks and be at the top end of the tech curve?

 

I agree, just wait for Ivy bridge to come out. I'd even wait for 680m or amd 7990m to come out this year if you have a competent computer at the moument and can hold off.

If you're current computer has died then I'd say buy now.

 

you can get a maxed out m17x for < 2k, just watch for the right deal

 

Like graz'zt said, you can get them for a lot cheaper. There are discount codes, haggling techniques, etc. Plus you never buy RAM or SDDs/HDDs from Dell, but upgrade aftermarket.

Besides they are beast machines at the end of the day (best temps/benchmarks are from Alienware machines), everyone that has seen me use one in LAN parties/college/elsewhere are like HOLY SHIIIIIEEEE =O

The 675M is a re-badge, hell I flashed my 580M to one.

 

Well until they throttle early that is

 

Clevo in the UK at PC Specialist are offering the same specs for £1k here.

That is a joke price and you would be silly to pay it. We also have 20% VAT added onto our prices.

 

my max GPU temp is 65C (under full load)... if you repaste clean your lappy every once in a while, then it is basically the best build quality system on the planet, out of question...

 

Well, I have 2 spare E1705 laptops now, so I don't have to buy a decked out Alienware. I spec'd out the Alienwares as to how I'd buy them; with upgraded memory so I won't have mismatched brand memory, and with a good 4 year warranty because when I bought my original E1705 back in Feb 2006 this laptop was rebuilt after falling down a stair, and then it was repaired 5 more times for screen, motherboard, and video card issues. So my 4 year warranty was worth it.

But now, if I bought a gaming laptop, maybe I'd settle for an MSI barebone and build it up. Maybe from these guys:
MSI MS-1762 Extreme (GT70 Barebone) 17.3" Intel Core i7 Barebone Gaming Notebook

GenTech PC - Systems

I'd get a 3 to 4 yr barebone warranty and fix the rest of the stuff if it breaks.

 

4 years? You will be able to replace a $1500 laptop in 4 years with a $300 laptop. Why don't you just buy an Asus with a free accidental damage warranty.

 

I'm talking about when properly clocked to 800mhz at 0.92v.

65c is fairly hot for stock.

 

That's ULTRA cool for a 580M (I get 65C max at 720Mhz). At 0.92v - 800Mhz my max temps are 73C for few seconds, but hover around 66-69C most of the time. This is with stock fan control, if fans are set to max (airplane mode lol), temps stay lower than 60C. I only get these temps because of a flawless re-paste and re-pad, however the stock job will most likely make you throttle at 78C. :/

I'd be called a joke if I was seen with a Clevo, pfffff.

 

4 years ago a $1500 laptop would have a 8800gt/gts/gtx/etc. It will still play EVERY game out there.

 

If there are still any 8800's that haven't overheated and died, sure.

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It can, but the point is today's IGP's are nearly equal the 8800m GTX.

 

I don't think this is the case... exactly.
Intel's latest IGP that comes with Ivy Bridge (the HD4000) is essentially just below or on par with my 9600m GT (both clocked stock).
The AMD IGP is roughly 50% better compared to Intel and as such would place it on a level of 8800m GTX (Trinity APU would be on this level if I'm not mistaken - though I could be wrong).

 

No not exactly, which is why I used the word "nearly". Just a quick example 6620G in Llano is equivalent to 8800m GTX at about 3400 3DMark Vantage.

In any case, point being that after four years, you can buy a brand new $500 laptop that will outperform the four year old machine, and have all the new bells and whistles (ie USB 3.0, DX 11 support, 802.11n), OS, etc.

 

Actually, the way I see it is that you will get a pretty much equal system built on contemporary generation hardware for a lower price (at least in Intel's case) in the $500 range or more.
In AMD's case (llano's and now Tinity), it will be up to $500 and below.

You still have to pay more for a mid range system that will surpass it, and of course for a high-end system, you pretty much have to give same amounts of cash.


So... to that end, a person that currently has an 8800m GTX is still ok depending on their habits - I'm ok with my GPU because it plays everything I throw everything I want to decently (Mass Effect series I easily max out for that matter).
Unless you need a high-end system specifically for something that doesn't meet your needs anymore, there's no immediate rush to buy.