All Temp Insanely HOt - FPS drop

I have xp 32 bit installed. Playing grid the demo . Fps drops goes up drops below 30 from 60. My friend has same laptop with same settings as me and he never goes to the 30's and he has 5 more fps then me. Well here are my temps right after playing for maybe 20 mins
core 78
core 2 78
gpu 98

idle at
58
57
68

His temps are much lower so is another friend of mine with the same specs. My laptop is fairly new (couple months old). I opened the back up no dust nothing. Everything seems to be good in there. What can i do ? Why are my fps droping? Also i want to know why this happening rather then tell me to buy cooler etc because my friend has everything same as me and its not happening to him. Also his laptop is overclocked as well. Also i had the 169.09 driver and i had same temps as i do on 175.16.
My room is normal temp, also another weird thing is my laptop processor use to run at 45 c or lower at idle.
What i think i should do is call sager ask em whats going on.
HELP!
thanks!

 

Those temps are odd. I'd call up since you already checked for dust. It sounds you may have a defective laptop. Just to make sure, run the typical anti virus and spyware scans. I doubt that's the problem, but it doesn't hurt.

 

^^ just did fresh install.. On xp. Man you guys think sager will do anything? I think i caused the problem for playing game on it too much lol???

 

checking for dust is a bit tricky, you should get a flashlight and shine it at the fan, then look at the exhaust vents... that is where you will find the dust.
- if you see the light clearly, then its not dust
- if you barely see light (or not at all), then the vents are clogged.

get some compressed air cans or compressor (set at ~50 PSI) to clean out the vents.

.... if its not dust (vents clear and all), check to make sure that the heatsink is properly secured onto the GPU.
- re-secure it and re-apply thermal compound (ex. Arctic Silver)

Hopefully that helps,
-Gophn

 

^^ gophn i did all that but the air compressor. My room is very clean i clean my laptop every day. But i used a flash light blowed in it no dust what so ever.The heat sink on the card was secured.

 

if the is no dust in the vents and the heatsink is secured on the GPU....

then I would:
- make sure you on a hard, flat, clean surfaces (preferably a notebook cooler)
- check to see if the fan spins up correctly
- contact your vendor about the issue since its still under warranty

I, personally, feel it might have something to do with the heatsink or fan, either...
- they may need to be removed, re-applied with thermal compound, and re-secured
- or just need replacement if they are faulty.

 

^^ yeah i think you are right. But idk why they would be off the first place there i took care of it really well. But ill reopen it. You mind add me msn or something i can tell you everything i see etc. If possible great Gophn

 

I don't think that the IFL90 (Sager2090) has a GPU fan; and I haven't heard of any OEM that applies or recommends applying thermal paste onto the GPU.

 

it has a fan. and copper heat sink . Do you guys think i should open the back up and run a house fan on the parts for a bit see how the temperature drops??? Just to test and see if the temps go down fast or not?
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okay my temps are way above normal. Awhile ago i compared my temps with my friends ****ty dell. His temps were much higher. I asked him today.. He is playin tf 2. and he has lower temps then me. So i think i need to give sager a call. How should i approach sager? Should i tell him i ran these tests and this what i have to come?

2nd question. Will i have to pay for shipping ???

 

If it`s a faulty system, Sager should cover the expenses both ways.

 

read your warranty cover policy.

have you tried updating your BIOS? This controls the fan algorithms.

 

^^ i didnt do anything to the bios because since its under warranty i dont want to tweak to much. Also because the laptop should't be hot in the first place. It might be defective. Like right now i just woke up and looked at the temps. They are.
core 1 56
core 2 57
gpu 65
Its just been doing nothing they are really hot and im going to play grid later ill check temps they will be like 98 for gpu, and cpu 70

 

most gaming notebooks (mid-range and up) will have a GPU heatsink/fan... and yes most boutique/custom brand vendors use good thermal compound for their systems.

 

Take sager for example, the 579x units come with AS5 applied for the GPU.

 

Can you provide a link that says the Sager 2090(IFL90) has a GPU fan? And the reason I said that it doesn't have thermal paste is because I asked a while back if it was fine to do so, and someone from Powernotebooks replied that most OEMs don't apply it, and a dime-sized paste would be fine.

As fas as I know, the IFL90 only has a heatsink, no fan. You can't control it with Speedfan or any other app, and I have yet to see it physically. The IFL90 disassembly guide doesn't mention or depict it either.

 

1) I did not mean that all dedicated GPUs to have both heatsink & fan... rather they would have just the heat sink, or both.

2) Thermal compound/pads are mandatory for all high performance computer parts that have a lot of heat. It is the medium that transfers heat from the source to the heatsink. Without the proper medium for heat transfer, problems with overheating would occur.

3) Speedfan is a freeware utility that mainly works on desktops only. Rarely will it work in a notebook environment.

 

Vash is correct Ther is a fan for the video card area but its not a dedicated on top of the gpu itself. Small My temps are so hot boy. How should i approach sager? Should i tell him how i ran tests and opened the laptop up etc? Tell him how my sager is running so much hotter compared to the other sagers ? Should i also tell em i use nbr to get help and the product must be defective? lol HELP! i really want this process to be clean and fast.

 

It's real simple. Call them, and explain the problem.

 

You should tell them that your temperatures are higher than people with the exact same laptop. You should try to get the same variables to compare the temps, that should be proof enough that something isn't right.

 

I moved into the coolest room in my house (vancouver) 50 F. My temps on idle have went down by 5. all my temps. Which is good but its chili here. I have one questions before i call sager tomorrow. Say i am playing a game (grid) 20 mins into the game my fps are fine. Then all of sudden they stop droping by 20 causing lag . Thats because of my temperature correct. So the laptop does have a problem because it can't maintain the temperature correct?

 

yes.. its overheating that it has to downclock to prevent damage

 

yeah i setup an appointment with them for tomorrow i hope they call me. Wow i just took my jackest im freezin in this room lol.OH what i do to keep my laptop happy. Even made a case with house fan that shoots air into it. I can bring my gpu down 40C lol.

 

Some people are sayings normal to have these temps some people are saying its not.. Btw sager didn't call me today and booked an appointment them as well