The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Anticipating Mobility Radeon 4670

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by kaiz, Sep 10, 2008.

  1. kaiz

    kaiz Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    The desktop Radeon 4670 and 4650 get officially released today. Their performance beats the Nvidia 9500GT but is behind the 9600GSO.

    The most exciting thing about this card for notebook users though was this line taken from Fudzilla's article today.

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9334&Itemid=34

    "RV730 will also be known as the card with least power consumption and with the best performance for a card without an external connector."

    Could this card make it into 14" or smaller laptops?
     
  2. SonDa5

    SonDa5 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    1,171
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55

    I hope so!! Just stick it in a 14" or smaller Lenovo and I might have to trade in my T61p for it.
     
  3. Xonar

    Xonar Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,457
    Messages:
    1,518
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    56
    From reading this, I've noticed it's a desktop card. Don't get your hopes high, usually the transition from desktop to notebook ends up loosing performance, or they [ATi] never end up releasing this card for a notebook.
     
  4. kaiz

    kaiz Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Er, of course it's a desktop card. It's the press release for the desktop 4600 series...

    My point is that if the desktop version uses such little power to provide great (relatively speaking) performance, then there is potential for the notebook 4600 to make it into smaller notebooks notebooks like 14.1" or 13.3" that have more restrictive heat and power limitations.
     
  5. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,049
    Messages:
    2,319
    Likes Received:
    26
    Trophy Points:
    66
    3650 is barely available now... so as much as I want a 4670 it would be a mistake to hold my breath for it.

    BTW - the mobility 2600 was really good. The 3650 is even better. As an NV guy the AMD stuff really caught me by surprise.
     
  6. Hoy

    Hoy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    65
    Messages:
    401
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  7. ntsan

    ntsan Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well given that 9600M GT is available on 14" I am sure HD46x0 would be the same..
     
  8. cathy

    cathy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    47
    Messages:
    551
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    This ought make you really happy. :)

    Although, I kinda wish it had higher memory bus though. Then again this card should probably be able to reach up to the 9700M GTS levels. :p
     
  9. lunateck

    lunateck Bananaed

    Reputations:
    527
    Messages:
    2,654
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    LOL, it's even on a 13.3".

    But comparing a desktop 4670 to a 9600GSO is a very childish act. Like said, gpu losses more power when it is converted into a laptop card. It is unwise (or plain idiocy) to compare desktop and notebook cards.

    I'm putting my bet on the 4670 to be able to punch a hole through the 9600M GT.
     
  10. cathy

    cathy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    47
    Messages:
    551
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well it seems like the mobile HD4000 series will come pretty close to their desktop variants :p


    Umm, I'm kinda wondering what the comparison of the 4670 and the 9600GSO has to do with the rest of the paragraph.
     
  11. ntsan

    ntsan Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yeah, isn't 9600GSO a desktop one?
    the 9700m/9600m/9500m is the same as 9500GT btw
     
  12. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

    Reputations:
    451
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    No, it isn't.

    That's the 8600GT rebranded, it's the EXACT same card aside from clock speeds.

    The desktop 9600GT was rebranded for notebooks as the 9800m GS and is NOT available in thin and light notebooks. The desktop 9600GT is more than twice as fast as the notebook 9600mGT.
     
  13. Rich.Carpenter

    Rich.Carpenter Cranky Bastage

    Reputations:
    91
    Messages:
    903
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    At the risk of taking something out of context, can someone explain this?

    "The 4800 series chipsets will use GDDR5 memory, an improvement from the GDDR3 memory found in the Radeon 3000 series. They will have support for Direct X 10.1, which has improved anti-aliasing, shadows, and global illumination. HD playback is fully supported, as well, all the way up to 1080p. The best part is that these new GPUs are pin-to-pin compatible with the older ones, so the cards will easily swap into an existing system."
     
  14. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Hmm... then there's obviously a non-MXM 3.0 version.
     
  15. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

    Reputations:
    375
    Messages:
    1,632
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Would the 46XX come in MXM-II, so that someone, with say a 9600M GT could replace their card with this

    Because from what I've read, this baby PWNS the 9600M GT
     
  16. 5482741

    5482741 5482741

    Reputations:
    712
    Messages:
    1,530
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The MSI GX623 (15.4"), has a Mobility 4670.
     
  17. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

    Reputations:
    375
    Messages:
    1,632
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Hopefully that means it may be an MXM-II card
     
  18. Kallogan

    Kallogan Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    596
    Messages:
    1,096
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I want a bench on this 4670 gpu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  19. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

    Reputations:
    375
    Messages:
    1,632
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Same here
    I'm waiting :D :D
     
  20. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

    Reputations:
    668
    Messages:
    1,874
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    9600M DDR3 is about even with a desktop 9500 GT as is. How much faster do you think the mobile 4670 will really be? I'd say 20% tops, if the desktop to mobile transition is perfect.
     
  21. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    488
    Messages:
    1,917
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Desktop 4670 = Desktop 9600 GSO = 9800M GT.

    It it runs anything the same it will completely dominate the entire mid-range even up to the 9800M GTS.
     
  22. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

    Reputations:
    1,212
    Messages:
    2,612
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    it's not as powerful as a 9600gso, very close though.
     
  23. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    488
    Messages:
    1,917
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    At higher resolutions and with AA, yes it is. That's one thing the entire 4xxx line has had on the GT200 and 9xxx line.
     
  24. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    6,552
    Messages:
    6,410
    Likes Received:
    4,087
    Trophy Points:
    431
    I have an ATi Radeon HD4670 and I gotta say I am throughly pleased. I got it for 70dlrs and so far performs almost like my 9800m GS. :D

    If the dekstop performance is somehow retained for the mobility versions (which I doubt but I still hold high hopes) then we will have a very powerful mid range card. :)

    I am even considering getting an Asus W90 with dual HD4870s :D so much power :eek:
     
  25. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,017
    Messages:
    7,251
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    im actually thinking now to go with a notebook with just one 4870, i mean its DDR5 so the performance should be really good.

    Then im worried crossfire might not be supported in all games, if it comes down to it ill just have to pick up the W90 until one single 4870 appears in a notebook.

    a 4000 series card is definitely gonna be in my next notebook.
     
  26. Ayle

    Ayle Trailblazer

    Reputations:
    877
    Messages:
    3,707
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Yeah.... Right.... :D, if one overclocked the card back to the desktop clocks, it would crush the 9800m.

    ATI raised the bar pretty high this time around... Unless Nvidia magically manage to squeeze the the G94 in regular mid-range notebooks I don't know what they are going to do...
     
  27. notyou

    notyou Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,562
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Here here to non-overpriced GPUs.
     
  28. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

    Reputations:
    375
    Messages:
    1,632
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Man, that is awesome, so people with 9600M GTs could consider this a definite upgrade then, huh???

    Yup, hopefully the dawn of a new era :p ;)
     
  29. Kallogan

    Kallogan Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    596
    Messages:
    1,096
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Anothergeek, i tried not to laugh when i saw your 3Dmarks score but i couldn't, not even 5600 with a T9600 and a ultra-OC 9600M GT is too much for me ;-) I love my 880$ laptop !!!

    Poor DDR2 owner.... :D
     
  30. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

    Reputations:
    668
    Messages:
    1,874
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Well yours is 1280x800, I'd be over 6k if I could lower the res to that <.<
     
  31. Kallogan

    Kallogan Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    596
    Messages:
    1,096
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Oops, That is the explanation then ! I didn't notice it. Lol i'm going to cut my tongue ;-)
     
  32. Arioch

    Arioch Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    109
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    31
  33. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

    Reputations:
    375
    Messages:
    1,632
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Thanks alot

    Checking it out now :D
     
  34. Kallogan

    Kallogan Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    596
    Messages:
    1,096
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    56
    it sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But thanks man ;-)
     
  35. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

    Reputations:
    375
    Messages:
    1,632
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    LMAO
    Rude and straight to the point my man :p
    As always ;)