The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Any point using an i7 for a 860m? it's not like an i5-4200m can bottleneck it or anything from this report

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by klauz619, Jun 18, 2014.

  1. klauz619

    klauz619 Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Pentium G3258 Processor Review and Athlon X4 750K Comparison

    As you can see, the i3-4330(20% stronger than the 4200m. 1680 vs 2000 single thread performance, 4100 vs 5000 passmark performance) is not even considered a bottleneck for a freakin gtx titan.

    The 860m at best will be on par with a 750ti which is only like 60-70% as powerful as the titan.

    Even on a game like battlefield 4 that likes multicores/threads the difference is laughable. It would appear as though I might get the exact FPS playing games on a 4200m compared to a 4710mq if I'm just using a measly 860m.

    True the A10- 5750m will bottleneck an m290x, but the AMD cpu has 35% less single thread performance and like 20% worse overall performance than the intel and it's using a significantly more powerful GPU to boot.

    I'd rather not spend like 100 euros over something that won't benefit my gaming.
     
  2. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

    Reputations:
    434
    Messages:
    1,674
    Likes Received:
    268
    Trophy Points:
    101
    I have tested both the i5 and i7 in an alienware 14 with 765m. A lot of games play just as well on the i5 as the i7 but I did notice some serious differences in BF4, Titanfall, Shogun 2 to name a few.
    I found BF4 and Titanfall much smoother with the quad, they seemed to play ok on the i5, but there were regular frame drops and a much lower average fps.
    If I had a choice between a decent gpu and dual core or a quad a mediocre gpu then I would always pick the better gpu, if it is only 100 euros I would definitely invest in the quad.
     
    Cloudfire and p0wnix like this.
  3. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    3,700
    Messages:
    8,323
    Likes Received:
    3,820
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Games are becoming much more CPU dependent these days due to poor optimization. It seems all of the latest and greatest titles literally suck (performance wise) at release because companies have to get it out of development to begin devoting resources towards other projects.

    Bottom line: No, you don't need to. But if you're a gamer, I highly recommend going with a quad-core CPU to enjoy the game at its best.
     
  4. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Confirmation bias, strengthened by tests using a bunch of last-gen's console games.

    You'll have a rude awakening when something like The Witcher 3 comes out, next year.
     
    Tsunade_Hime and ChowMeow like this.
  5. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    3,700
    Messages:
    8,323
    Likes Received:
    3,820
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Ha, no doubt. +1 Kevin.
     
  6. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    You have to be careful with bf4. Multiplayer uses a lot more resources and threads than single player. And metro last light and grid 2 were hampered by slower cpus. But interesting article nevertheless.

    Beamed from my G2 Tricorder
     
  7. KillWonder

    KillWonder Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    155
    Messages:
    432
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    31
    On notebookcheck you can find several notebooks with a I5 that perform almost just as good as notebook with a I7 in it with the same GPU.
    Also check this site below for good comparison between I5 and I7. So I'd say stick with the I5 because if you're going to experience lag on a future game it most probably be because of the GPU first then the CPU.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...m-review-using-sager-np7330-clevo-w230st.html
     
    HTWingNut likes this.
  8. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I'm planning on doing this same comparison with the i7-4810MQ and i5-4200m with the 860m with some of the latest games and benchmarks.
     
  9. klauz619

    klauz619 Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    16
    >You'll have a rude awakening when something like The Witcher 3 comes out, next year.

    something tells me it's the 860m will cause the bottleneck long before the cpu goes near 100% usage.
     
    killkenny1 likes this.
  10. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    3,700
    Messages:
    8,323
    Likes Received:
    3,820
    Trophy Points:
    431
    That's probably holds true with the 860M. I'd say it's not necessary, but it won't hurt to upgrade.
     
  11. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    581
    At whatever settings the 860M can handle TW3, a dual core CPU will bottleneck its potential.

    Keep in mind that CPU can become more of a factor at lower resolutions.