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    Anyone else looking forward to the Fallout DLC Honest hearts?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by The Happy Swede, May 15, 2011.

  1. The Happy Swede

    The Happy Swede Notebook Evangelist

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    So i just saw the trailer for the new fallout new vegas DLC Honest hearts, and honestly can wait :D i mean it features my favorite gun the Cold 1911 and the legions mysterious "burning man" together :D. and seeing how Bethesda makes such wonderful DLC i think this is gonna be just as great as the rest :)
     
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    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    I for one love real DLC, not just crap that you need to enable stuff already on the disc. lol
    Bethesda never fail on that one. :D
     
  3. The Happy Swede

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    Yeah, exactly! like the first CoD black ops dlc, that was already on the disc.... Bethesda really knows how to make quality DLC!
     
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    Fixed.

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    Well you can have your opinion, but i really dont think that. I thought that both fallout 3 and NW was amazing games without the DLC too. And i have over 250 hours on fallout 3 the original game. And i dident have any problems with either fallout 3 or NW, like a lot of others had. So in my opinion Bethesda does a great job of giving alot of content for the money....
     
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    I assume that NW = New Vegas (should be NV?), I can't comment on that because I didn't try it.

    As for Fallout 3, I bought the original game and finished it rather quickly. It was supposed to be an "open-ended" game (Bethesda's words, not mine), but guess what? When you finish the main quest, game over. To me, that's a broken game (since the company claims it's open-ended when it's not).

    Naturally, it must be a coincidence that Broken Steel "added" this amazing new "feature" called "game doesn't end when the main quest is completed". Bethesda aren't newbies to the RPG genre, they make the amazing Elder Scrolls series, so I'm definitely sure this was done on purpose to almost force users to pay extra to unlock this.

    Now let's do some math:

    - Typical retail price of a new AAA PC game (at launch): 40-50€, average 45€
    - Retail price of Fallout 3 (at launch): 60€ (for PC; for PS3 it was 70€ ;)
    - Retail price of Broken Steel: 30€

    (60+30)/45 = 2, i.e. Fallout 3 + Broken Steel cost twice as much as a normal game; note that you might argue that "you are not obliged to buy Broken Steel", but you MUST if you want the "open-ended" game promised by Bethesda.

    Fortunately the store I bought the game at accepts returns (this is why I only shop there), so I just returned the game and got my money back. Some time later I bought the Game of the Year Edition for 30€ -- a price that I consider fair (since it was a reasonable time after launch).


    Please don't take me wrong, I'm not bashing Fallout 3, Broken Steel and even less belittling the mainstream opinion that this is a good game (I agree with it to an extent). I just mentioned (in a sarcastic way) that the original Fallout 3 was broken and that to get it fixed you would end up paying twice the normal amount of money.
     
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    Yes i did mean NV, sorry spelling mistake :S but the pricing, i only payed about 40 euro, and the DLC did not ONLY contain "the game wont end after completion" feature but also contained a continues story to the brotherhood of stell, and as Bethesda said, they should have made it so that you can continue after completing. But i have to say that i though all the DLC, maybe except Mothership Zeta was worth the money... but thats just my 2cents. And i had no problems while playing through the single player of the game. And 2 things more, im pretty sure that every DLC costed about 20 euro here in Denmark and not 30 and almost every ps3/xbox 360 title costs 70 euro, not just Fallout...
     
  8. HerrKaputt

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    The price on Broken Steel might be wrong, after all I just saw ONE price (perhaps on an overpriced store like GameStop or something) and raged back then. It's quite possible that it cost 20€, let's assume that.

    And while Broken Steel certainly adds much more than just that fix, my point still stands: to get what Bethesda promised (it was even in the text on the box I think) you must buy both the original game and the Broken Steel DLC, bringing the total price to 80€, which like I originally stated is almost twice as much as a normal AAA game.
     
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    I tried so hard to like FO3, it was great as I was playing it the first time through.

    Then suddenly 2nd sitting I beat the game, I was like what seriously?

    So I knew there is tons of side quests and hidden things, much more content than just the main quest offers and restarted a new guy and went out looking for everything and avoiding the main quest as much as possible.

    I found lots of hidden and optional things, got cool items, had a fun character build.

    Then in about 4 days I realized, its so freaking boring.

    Everywhere I went looked the same, all the enemies everywhere were the same, all the items were the same and it took FOREVER to get from A to B. It was so repetitive and boring ti didnt matter what new place or hidden thing I found it was just more of the same and felt so totally pointless, there just was nothing to drive the game.

    I have no idea how somebody can put 250 hours into a game like that.
     
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    i know im weird like that, but the reason i like the game so much is not the wast amount of variety, but because of the post-nuclear atmosphere and because i set myself the goal to find every single place in the game. Thats why i got that many hours from it, because as you probably know there is a LOT of areas in Fallout 3 when you have all the DLC too. But its like that for most people, they find a game that they really like and they stick with it some time, thats fallout for me. But i can most certainly see why someone wouldent want to put that many hours into it.

    @HerrKaputt the price can differ but yes around that price, but for me it was worth the money.
     
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    Yeah to each his own. Game I put the most time into (besides MMO's) would be.... Maybe Final Fantasy 7? I beat it several times over and spent a lot of time grinding materia to be OMG powerfull.
     
  12. HerrKaputt

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    I didn't even go into that, but yeah, I find Fallout 3 boring as well. I much preferred Fallout 2, but then again, I was younger at that time.
     
  13. The Happy Swede

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    Yeah precisely, you try to get the best gear, find the coolest places and all that stuff. And if you enjoy the setting and game mechanics, you can get alot of time out of it.