Are there any EVE Online players here?

Hello, long time no post...

I started playing EVE some days ago (a friend pushed me until I downloaded the trial). It means I am playing EVE now, luckily after the last day of uni. I was wondering if there were any fellow EVE players in NBR?

 

i play eve for 2 years but i was on a brake until i finished uni but i may try and get back into it need to get my ships bake from nul sec

 

I have read on other forums that there has been massive player protests in-game. They are locking up things around Jita in protest of the speculated introduction of micro-transactions into the game world.

 

This is correct. As of especially late, CCP have not been exactly forth-coming with their community and didn't voice entirely their intentions to bring in microtransactions (so far just for vanity items, but a leaked documents hints they are considering more than just that in the future).

I won't tell you not to play simply because I or others are dissatisfied by (lack of) content in the recent Incarna release, but I will say it's a choice between a rock and a hard place since there isn't much else to fill the niche EVE has.

You should definitely try it out for a month to reach your own conclusions and see if you like it. Just know there will be slightly more than usual jaded bitter vets about.

 

What about that Dust project CCP is working on? Would that be a good reason to jump on EVE now?

 

It's a project that shunned CCP's entire core PC userbase by announcing it (a part of the EVE universe) would be console-exclusive, and of all the consoles, PS3 exclusive. I think most are unhappy over that decision and so DUST514 has now become one of the reasons against CCP.

Reasons to play EVE would be:
player-driven economy
single-shard universe
sandbox gameplay with depth & complexity

Generally EVE is/was fun and a great game, but it's maintainers, CCP can do a lot of stupid stuff to tick off their userbase. Just got to weigh these against the occasionally now more frequent stupid things CCP does to their otherwise pretty-good game.

 

Eve is even more of a life then a game then WoW is.
I DONT advice to even start playing it (even though you can do it and figure out everything by yourself).

PvP is Rock / Paper / Scissors. Obviously Rock will run away from you if you are paper and engaging scissors will most likely get you insta-gibed.
Intrigue however remains considering that this exact "rock" may have a bunch of friends few gates away that will counter everything. Obviously its moderately fun to set up a trap and do some "surprise fits" but its still fishing. There are nothing like instant battlegrounds. Its more like getting a huge machine game and going into free space hoping to meet someone will smaller gun, catch him and kill

Combat system isnt exactly spectacular. If you will watch EVE movies you will realize that they are fast forwarded since its the only real way to make it even slightly entertaining to watch. You lock something, overheat your modules and drift back and forth trying to avoid the damage while your cannons are automatically shooting at the enemy (thats in general)

Mass battles are like:
16.00 Gather at point A
17.00 Wait for your squad
17.30 Fly to point B and wait for your alliance
18.00 There are 400 ships on your screen. You start to lag. For real.
19.30. Enemy didnt show up. Raid disband.
or
19.30 Enemy did show up and he has twice more ships then you. You die. Instantly. Happy 4 hours of your life.
or
19.30 Battle seem to be rather even. You either get primaried and die. Instantly. Or you are pressing ctrl-click, f1, f2, f3 for somewhat few more hours. (click = select target, f1 = order your cannons to shoot)

Yay. Your alliance claimed a sector and your miners can farm it and then make you some ships so you can have more fun of this sort.

Then there is PvE, trading, leveling which are also quite boring (or some will say unique) but pvp is really what kills the game for me.

 

Hello!

I've been playing for around a week now. I'm a Minmatar, the tinkerer type, and my ship is a Stabber (named Indefatigable) fitted for speed and long range, the tanking is terrible once the enemy gets close enough.

I've noticed that in general, EVE is a slow game. I was stuck with my Thrasher destroyer for the better part of that week. Thankfully I am still on a trial account (which does not allow me to get battlecruisers), but after running several missions, loads of PvE and one epic arc, it is somewhat monotonous now...

@nthony, @hehehemann, what do you mean with the microtransactions? I have seen the protests, Amarr is packed with people, and docking is a pain thanks to lag. Not to mention, all those laser-equipped vessels keep shooting and my poor GPU has to deal with that...

@Lickwidpain, I've seen what they plan to do with Dust, even heard that Msft said no to CCP, since (apparently) the updates will be free and Msft didn't want that. Dust seems like a way to attract more people only, I highly doubt it'll add too much to the experience.

 

^^ its somewhat fun during the trial since you still have missions to explore and ships to ride. My character is back from 2006 and friend who dragged me into eve funded me like 5 years subscription with his corporation (through PLEXs)

All in all i was just setting different skills to learn and flying some time to time. After you explore all the missions (which takes few days of active gaming) and perfect half the ships (which take few years of paying) you really see that there is not much to go for or achieve.

p.s. i am just being too negative because i had high expectations towards the game

 

What do you mean with not much to achieve?

I have, however, noticed that some missions are the same over and over again...and I'm too poor to try PvP and lose my Stabber (terrible tanker) or my soon-to-be Rupture. I've spent a lot on equipment, rigging and weapons and the such...^_^

In all honesty, I find there is not much to do around that's not PvP...exploring around, PvE and perfecting some skills.

What was your ship?

 

I can pilot any sub-mothership combat class ship, minmatar and caldari nearly perfectly. Guns — artillery and missiles.
I enjoyed solo bomber the most. Hound and manticore.

Exactly — pve IS the same. There are around 15 combat missions that you can get from chosen combat agent. After you really get into it you will know what missions to take and what to refuse. There are around 10 highly profitable level 4 missions that are worth doing and you will spend 15-20 minutes on each missions. There are level 5 missions as well but they are hardly soloable and consider LP > isk ratio isnt that great it might be lower isk / hour. There are also other ways to make money through pve but you wont see it in next few years or so.

Well... ye exploring world — after a while you will realize that space is exactly the same everywhere and setting up skills cant be considered playing the game.

With not much to achieve i mean that once you perfected your ships there are not much fun things to do.
There is no competitive pvp and that what matters for me. Eve wars are all around resources and isk... Well i have enough real money to buy billions of those isks resources, but i dont know whats so fun in having those.

 

0.0 politics and combat is "the endgame of EVE" in my opinion. Moving up the corporate ladder or starting your own space empire is a challenge. The leaders of strong alliances have direct control over trillions of isk that translate into tens of thousands of real life cash, not including the thousands of players. Some people enjoy being space tyrants.

I've played for several years, 99% of it in 0.0 sector. I find that PVE is extremely boring in EVE and have never done it. Wormholes, low-sec piracy, and production/market manipulation are interesting in my opinion, but they are just not my cup of tea. I really enjoyed a solo pvp aspect, roaming with alliance mates, and participating in the all out wars between coalitions. The latter aspect got boring in my opinion with the prevalence of supercapital ships. Right now a new pilot in a frigate is really not making a difference against a fleet of 100 motherships. Back in the day however, a rifter frigate had a legitimate role in battleship combat, suicidal, but useful.

I don't feel that EVE is going in the right direction, especially considering the current scandal with micro transactions. I quit the game a while back and do not plan to come back. It was a fun ride though.

 

I am hearing that its worth it i you join a corporation or at least have a friend that can help out at first. I might start playing when i decide which Sager to get.

 

What help do you need?
Leveling take years and you cant fasten the process, ships that you can pilot right away are so cheap that you hardly would need sponsorship.

Being in 0.0 alliance and claiming sectors is a challenge. But is it FUN?
I got a feeling that its more of a job then a game. Almost like wow raid but sometimes you "wont encounter any fight in your dungeon" so to say or even more often you will either encounter 1 vs 100 fight or 100 vs 1 and neither is fun to me unless you enjoy hammering bunnies with enchanted mithril hammer of doom.

 

PVP is boring. You need to keep taking loot from up to 7 people's cans unless someone shoots you and that takes time. Oh and if there's 7 people in one corp you only need to take their loot once. Aggroing more than 7 is bad because from my experience they'll say "_your char name_ is a pirate" in local and most of people won't shoot you after that. If nobody shoots you, you either try some tricks to make them shoot you or move on and that's also time wasted.

Finally! when you got aggro, press F1, F2, F3 and wait for their ship to explode, or not if 3 logi's come and rep them. Then you call it a draw.

 

I've played since 2007 off and on. Pilot's name is Infurnus Draconius. I was doing some beta work on another MMO and when I came back they had launched an upgrade. Then they launched Incarda and my video card won't handle the graphics requirements.

I lost my video cards in my Alienware laptop so I'f had to shut down my account until I get it fix or buy a new system.

 

AHA! So it is true that graphics on Incarna are heavier than those in Incursion. I started the day or 2 days before Incarna, everything maxed out, windowed mode and the GPU could manage it perfectly. After Incarna, same config and I'm reaching 90C in temperature, which I control by minimizing the game and letting it run.

A friend of mine, the one who convinced my and financed my Rifter and my second Thrasher (I'm Minmatar), used to play on his MacBook Air, and it ran quite well, but after Incarna he had to move to his OS X desktop to play since it no longer ran. And from what I've seen, graphics seem to be around the same...