Are these temperatures normal?

I have been playing NFS Underground 2 for about 45 minutes now and the GPU peaked at 91 C. The CPU however barely crossed 70 C. I am worried about Graphics Card heating issues and would this like to know if these temps are normal or not. Besides I have raised the back of the laptop a bit to ease the release of the heat. Specs in signature.

Thanks and Regards.

 

not sure if it's normal for that notebook.. but the 8400 can handle up to around 105-110. so you don't need to worry much about 91. try propping the back of the notebook up a bit to help cooling

 

Thanks a lot for the reply jcovelli. 105-110 C? Weird because the last time I played NFS Pro Street it peaked at 101 C and at about the same time a BSOD showed up. Could be some other issue though. Waiting for others to reply as well.

 

any temp over 90C is dangerous... and will downclock or turn off the system to prevent damage.

 

i am also experiencing these kind of temperatures after heavy rendering with maya or 3ds max.........i thought that these were normal till now. was i wrong ??

 

So is there any way of lowering these temps? Because at the end of the day I can't digest the fact that my new notebook won't allow me to play games that are about 2-3 years old!

 

You can use a notebook cooler, or simply try to keep some space between the bottom vents of the notebook and the surface. Also running a notebook on any "soft" surface, your lap for example, while doing intensive tasks will increase temps significantly. Cleaning out the vents using compressed air also helps to reduce temperature. Eitherway, I'm sure your laptop will be fine if your not getting sudden driver malfunctions or BSoDs. Hardware & Operating Systems all have preventitive maintance measures to protect against damaging heat so you'll notice when sudden weird things start to happen that you may have a problem with temperature. But for now, if all you see is a number on a temp guage I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

build a gigantic fan underneath your notebook.

 

I too am thinking on similar lines. Just wondering how would I be powering it?!

 

i know my 8600 gets to 91 celcius as well, but that seems to be where it maxes out.

and, as suggested i would recommend getting a cooling pad or proping it up somehow

 

Mine was going upto 95 C when I hadn't propped it up. It came down to late 80s when I raised the back a bit. Thanks for the reply though.

 

By the way how good are notebook coolers at lowering the temperatures?

 

For those of you who don't know, 91c is nearly 200 fahrenheit

That is much too hot for any computer component to run at.
At those temperatures I'm amazed your notebook isn't becoming slightly bendable, or is it?

The CPU however is running fine. The temperature at which your particular CPU will fail is 100c, the safe and normal temperatures for a mobile core 2 duo is around 20c to 80c

The video card is running too hot though, and I think it's cause for concern if any of your components are running higher than 80c.

A few things to do are well.. First, are you shure the fan is working? Are you shure the fan is well cleaned/dusted out? Are you shure neither the air intake, and exhast for the notebook is not obstructed in any way? Lastly, what is you ambient room temperature? (the temperature of the room in which the notebook is being used.)

 

It is early spring here in India. So the temperature is about 25 C. The fans are definitely clean as it is a brand new laptop. Still not sure what I should do to lower these temperatures as you said that these are high!

 

I thought that you just said that it is already in the 80's range?? It is already safe at 80
(while gaming I hit 80 degress celsius)

Also I live in the Philippines and it is summer roght now. Outside temp is around 30-45 degress celcius. Temp outside does not really affect the notebooks temp.

 

actually, on an AIR cooled notebook, the room temp DIRECTLY affects the notebook temp. If it is hotter, your pc will run hotter, and colder, it will run cooler.

Without cooler air being pushed into your notebook's heatsinks, they will just continue to get hotter

25c however is definately cold enough for the fans to work efficiently

As an example, which is a 100% true fact. right now my room temp is 18c, and my CPU temp is at 29c idle 39c load, when the room temp hits about 32c my CPU temp is usually at 49c idle, 64 load.


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You also said that your notebook has BSOD'd because of the temps, thats a very bad sign. You should talk to tech support, and ask what the normal operating temps are for that notebook.

 

Never really checked when I used it at cooler temperatures. but his temp at full load should not really be affected much,right?


Since GPU and CPU temps all reach 70+ range at full load

 

Ambient room temperatures affect the laptops temperature. The hotter the enviroment, the hotter your laptop will be.

The fans suck in air to cool the laptop, obviously cooler air will work better.

 

45?! I don't think we even hit the 40's. It's just around 30-38C during daytime as far as I know; high 20's [>25] at night. [I live in Metro Manila, btw]

My GPU has only reached 70's C when I installed 173.41. Now, I reverted back to 169.09 and it maxes at around 64~68C [depends on the game], full load. It can probably be attributed to the good cooling system [fan] of my laptop; the fans really work hard when I'm playing games. However, I still plan to get a cooler because I want to increase the lifespan of my laptop

 

I can see people with better graphics Cards and smaller Laptops, but still can't understand why I have such high temps?! Flip could you please comment as to what sort of temps your Laptop reaches when you play games, that is if you do play games!

 

i really dont think 90 degrees celcuis is any cause for concern. Most people with a 8xxx series GPU all have temps around 90. the temp for shutdown is in the 100's-110's for a reason. A BSOD is cause for alarm though, does it only happen when your temps get high? or has it happened at other times?

one thing i always recommend to do when you are getting BSOD's is to run memtest 86+

 

I just got one BSOD and that too while playing NFS Pro Street. I am pretty sure that the temps then would have gone upto or very close to 110C. I played extensively yesterday and the temps just didn't cross 90 C. So I believe I can be happy!

 

I think it depends on the notebook.

I mean, even after having ATITool on for something like hours now, the 8600M GT in my Vostro 1500 hasn't gotten past 61C according to Speedfan, nTune, and ATITool. There's also maybe 1 or 2 spots on the top part of the laptop that are slightly warm, but it doesn't even begin to approach the warmth I'd feel on the left side of my old Compaq Presario 2100. I think that 61C is probably pretty accurate, unless there's something horribly wrong with the internal sensor and the case insulates insanely well.

The GPU is currently clocked at 610/520 (core/memory), as well.

From all the threads and posts about Vostros and overclocking, it would seem that around 70C is about the highest any Vostro has gotten to (and that's generally with a hotter, beefier Core2Duo at 2.0GHz+). If my lappy began shooting past 80C and into 90C, I would be worried. So yeah, it depends on the lappy.

 

Well I am neither a hard gamer nor one who has knowledge about this stuff. I used HWMonitor to record temps all this while. Firstly is this accurate for GPUs?

Secondly is there anyway of underclocking the GPU so that the temperatures come down? After all resolution isn't the most important thing for me!

 

My laptop GPU hits 91C when gaming. Never gets any higher, no matter what ambient temp. It does not downclock at this temp, nor does the laptop start to burn/explode into flames etc. These GPU's get hot it's as simple as that.

 

Hmmm gives me an idea.
IHow about 'm gonne get the huge casefan I had in my old desktop pc, check its required voltage, mod it, and plug it in a USB drive with a modded cable lol. I wonder if that'll work.

 

Though it is without a doubt that certain laptops get better airflow than others, it does not actually matter when talking about "safe" temps. Eitherway, if its the same GPU then it has the same threshold and safety zones that it can run at regardless of where its housed.

 

So after all this discussion I am looking at buying either a stand or a Cooler for my notebook.

Just looked at the Alto Express Stand and it seems to be available in India. So which one would be better a Cooler or a Stand? I am guessing a Cooler could come hard on my battery. Plus is it noisy. And could anyone suggest me Coolers that I can have a look at?

I am extremely sorry for posting so many questions but I really want to learn something new out of this experience!

 

Use the cooler only when ur playing games while on AC power so it doesnt affect battery life. You dont need to have a cooler plugged in all the time

 

Any suggestions as far as the brand is concerned? What temps does your Graphics card touch at peak performance anyways?

 

I keep an eye on my temperatures, if they rise for my configuration, I will be worried, not before. Unless I can find that magical driver that drops the temperature of my card whilst keeping the clocks where I want them (stock 475 core 400 mem) this is all I can do. I've tried putting the thing on a stand, with and without fans, it really doesn't change the max temp by much (1 or 2 degrees only). It must be a case design issue that stops any extra temperature drops especially as I'm using a 14.1" notebook.