Asus EEE 1000HV with 256mb ATI 3450 coming @ Computex

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Atom N280 1.66GHz
1GB Ram
160GB Hard Drive
256MB ATI 3450
6 Cell 62w 8700mAh battery
N Wireless
Bluetooth
10" 1024x600 LED Screen

 

what are the main different betwen this and the N10J ???

N270 vs N280
9300M gs vs ati 3450
HDMI vs no HDMI

what else ?

 

Woooooooow. Hehehhe It would be nice for minor gaming.

 

N10 has:

• switchable graphics
• Vista option
• newer models come with Intel GN40 chipset and Nvidia 9400
• express card slot
• fingerprint reader
• has Power4Gear instead along with Super Hybrid Engine
• SmartLogon facial recognition

 

i wonder why they didn't put this in their new seashell molding. this chassis was old and tired looking 6 months ago. 1000HE should have been its last stand.

 

hummm i am getting a net book .... i guess ill wait a bit

 

so now that netbooks have merged with notebooks... what now? does MS sell XP to everyone?

As far as i am concerded netbooks should have these characteristics...
1. CHEAP
2. <11 inch screen
3. a processor with no more than 10W TDP
4. <= 2GB of ram
5. Have an IGP!!

this isn't a netbook, just a small budget notebook.

PS. I'm pretty sure the Atom will bottleneck a fully clocked 3450... so likely it'll be a vastly underclocked version.

 

It's not, I read somewhere it is not underclocked. And are the 9300/9400 in the N10 underclocked?

 

Can't wait to see the 3D Marks.

 

N10J is PCI-E 1x.

It is clocked at:

GPU 580MHz
Memory (DDR2): 400 MHz
Shader: 1450Mhz

Only other reference to "stock" GPU speed is 550MHz, so it is actually faster than stock. Memory is only DDR2 400MHz though. I've overclocked to 500MHz using ATITool and it makes a small improvement to 3DMark and gaming FPS. Increasing the GPU actually makes no difference, mainly because of the anemic Atom CPU. Even with the Atom at 2.1GHz, the GPU speed didn't make a difference.

Here's my results from N10J:



Based on CPU difference, I'd say there's approx 1% error in results (+/- 0.5%)
This tells me quite a bit:

(1) CPU offers 20%+ improvement going from stock 1600MHz to 2100MHz
(2) GPU Memory speed offers approx 5-10% improvement with 100MHz overclock (400 to 500Mhz)
(3) GPU speed has a negligible effect, less than 1%, improvement

I also did a run with FRAPS running and results were within 1% of running without it, so FRAPS has negligible effect of framerate.

How this translates to real world FPS will depend on the game, but you can see that the CPU has the most significant impact. I did some runs with Far Cry 2 benchmark, and it effectively bumps the FPS from 10 to 14FPS with CPU overclock (all settings medium, HDR off, Bloom Off, Shadows off). That's a 40% improvement! The memory clock had negligible effect.

 

I'll gladly do another detailed analysis of the 1000HV if Asus would kindly send me a sample my way!

Although I'm surprised Asus would release this model. IIRC, Asus said specifically they had no intention on utilizing dedicated GPU's in their Eee line. Additionally, this competes with their own N10J.

 

i wouldn't really consider it competition for its own models id consider another option for the market which is why i would welcome this netbook.

An ATI 43** while weak would probably be a more ideal choice from a power perspective.

 

I'm still waiting for dual core netbook with dedicated.

 

Naa, quad core is the future. They might even just skip over the dual core.

 

heh i just cat imagine a quad in a netbook at this point

maybe around 2012 or so.......

 

how about a tri-core... ?

LOL.

 

Gophn...you know better...it'll be octo core before tri...sheesh.

 

when I can get 8 cores in a netbook, I will give away my notebook.

 

It is competition. Very similar specs, except one is ATI and one is nVidia. But whatever, they're at least trying.

Again, any GPU more powerful would just be a waste of silicon until they put in a more powerful CPU.

I think people are quickly forgetting that the reason for a netbook is low cost, long battery life, and portability.

You add a much more powerful CPU and GPU, you are just an ordinary notebook and probably start costing well over $1000.

However, since there is a dual core Atom out there, mainly intended for desktops, I'm surprised nobody has tried a netbook based on that. Granted your battery life would suffer a bit since it consumes 8W vs 2W of the single core.

That being said, the Atom has opened up a whole new realm of cheaper netbooks. I guess you can't really find a 10" notebook with a Core 2 Duo or even a single core Pentium of some sort for less than $2000.

 

Get a CULV, Nano, or Neo.

I'd take a single-core CULV/Nano with a 9400M chipset or a single-core Neo with a 3200 HD chipset over any kind of Atom netbook with a dedicated GPU.

 

Ugh, it seems like we are almost going backwards in technology now aren't we? Before it was the big push for faster faster faster! Now it's smaller smaller smaller even if it means using effectively performance of a computer five or so years ago.

 

Netbooks FTW!

 

The age of capitalistic decadence is over! We're throttling back to when enough was actually enough and more was too much.


Heh but seriously even though I do believe most users don't need faster and faster, I will agree that netbooks are too large a step back in tech.

 

you guys are silly to suggest there isn't a place for netbooks. they're not hurting anything; they're meeting a need.

the day the slap a touch screen on one of these at the sub-$500 price point and 6-9 hours of battery life is the day tablet PCs finally arrive.

every computer doesn't need a powerful CPU and GPU. especially considering how many people do nothing but watch youtube, listen to music and write a few documents.

tell me why those people need a Quad Core i7 in a laptop (or desktop for that matter)?

the reality is the highest ends of tech have outpaced their need for the overwhelming majority. that's the real reason why netbooks are relevant. I find that Word and Firefox opens almost as fast as it does on my C2D 2.66GHz laptop. Office 2010 loads at blazing speed on the netbook.

so what, exactly, is more power needed for? I feel like gamers, video creator, engineers, and graphic designers are the only ones that need upper-tier CPU/GPU combos. Everyone else (the other 299,000,000 Americans, for example) doesn't. or at very least, don't need constant access to it in exchange for a high price or short battery life.

I'll be picking up an EeePC as my first netbook soon. 8 hours battery life for what I do most of the time (web, Word, iTunes, watch one of my converted videos on flights) @ $350 = megawin. I'll go back to the Vaio when I want to game or work on web designs.

 

ajreynol -

I agree with you. I own a an Asus N10J and and an EEE 900 and 1000H. Don't ask, I started with the 900 and worked my way up to the N10J because the Eee's didn't really satisfy me for various reasons, but they still have their place.

But my point is that the more crap they add to these machines, the less appealing and less reason for it to exist because you lose one, two, or all of those three factors that make a netbook: price, battery life, portability.

Either way, the netbooks are a tad bit underpowered as a web based machine mainly due to its anemic performance with flash, which is quite predominant on the web today (youtube, hulu, etc).

Otherwise, I love my N10J. I can say, however, that 10" or 11" is perfect size for a screen, but it NEEDS to be minimally 1366x768 instead of 1024x600. That is quite problematic for the many apps (and even games) that require a minimum of 1024x768 resolution to run.

 

I'm hoping the higher resolution will be standard by the end of the year. but the EeePC's can fake 1024x768, right?

 

Yes they can.

 

Yes. But for desktop stuff, it looks horrendous. Only thing I see it useful for is games. And only just recently the option is available for nVidia GPU's in netbooks for XP only with the release of 185.85 drivers.

 

What? An EEE with a GPU? Maybe it's me, but I thought EEE's were supposed to be about portable web browsing and battery life, not about the power?

 

Yes and no. The problem is that the GMA 950 is so antiquated it struggles doing any rudimentary 3D graphics. There's better solutions out there that don't consume that much more power. The N10J has switchable graphics so you can get your battery life if you need it, or switch it on for gaming goodness.

I mean, even Vista and Windows 7 require a decent 3D GPU to manage the Aero stuff, and I don't think the GMA 950 can cut it.

 

Shame still using the Atom, I dont think the gpu upgrade can do much good with the Atom cpu still holding it back.

I think the right way to go for the EEE series is increase the screen resolution, that is the largest flaw IMO and it would help with everything.

FYI the GMA 950 handled Aero easy, just needed 2gb of RAM for Vista to run well. Win 7 also ran very well (better than Vista most say)

 

I haven't tried Win7 on an Eee yet. How do you get the file size small enough to fit on the SSD?

I agree 100% with screen resolution. Make it 1366x768 or 1280x800.

 

I'm curious to see how this is going to work out. The HD 3410 in a 12" HP Dv2 is borderline overheating; the HD 3450 in a 10" chassis should be interesting. ASUS came up with an interesting twist to the EEE line-up, but this thing is going to either be an oven or sound like a wind generator when it's running.

The GMA 4500MHD would have been more than sufficient for netbooks.

 

The 4500 is pretty hot too, but like I said before the ATOM cpu is so slow its not like the GPU is going to run full speed, aka it wont run very hot.

Id really call this a bad idea off the top of my head, not for heat but just because I think its going to lose one of the main reasons I consider the EEE 1000H so great, the battery life.

I can charge my unit, and take it with me all day and not need the power brick, making it truly an ultra portable all day computer. For sure this dedicated gpu is going to drop the battery life significantly meaning I would now have to pack a bag w/ power brick isntead of just grabbing the unit itself like a small book, and if I am going to be by a power outlet and carry a bag around I may as well get a real notebook and forget about the netbook all together.

 

I upgraded my 901 to a Runcore 16GB SSD and it runs Win 7 fine, taking up around 8GB on first install. Otherwise use Vlite.

 

Microsoft released new hardware restrictions for XP, Vista, and Win7 Starter Ed.




Looks like once Win7 is released manufacturers won't be able to build a netbook running XP or Vista with any kind of dedicated GPU.

 

1000HV Benchmarks

 

Looks like it's gonna be a nice little netbook. Hope it comes out over in the US soon for under $500.

 

HD Mode in Super Hybrid Engine helps overclock more.