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    Asus G53 Video cards.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Morpheus1, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. Morpheus1

    Morpheus1 Notebook Consultant

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    Is it possible to get the Asus G53SW and swap out the video card myself for a better one? Someone told me that I couldn't swap the GTX460 for a GTX 560 myself and sell the 460 online. That I had to buy the more expensive version with the 560 included.

    I plan on updating the Video card in the future as prices drop and the top of the line ones drop in price.
     
  2. vNaK

    vNaK Notebook Consultant

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    I don't know much about the Asus line, but the performance increase from the 460 to the 560 is minimal, I wouldn't bother upgrading it to the 560.
     
  3. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    Don't plan on it.

    Especially for the 560m. Its not worth it. Go for a 6970m or something, people have successfully upgraded the g73 with this card.
    The heatsink however is probably going to be an issue. This is what your current card looks like:
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M 1.5GB GDDR5 VRAM - Asus | eBay
     
  4. Morpheus1

    Morpheus1 Notebook Consultant

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    I was thinking of swapping the GTX460 out for something with some more power and also add some ram to my Asus G53 later this year. Thanks for the info.
     
  5. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    You can't.
    G53sw/73/74 have the gpu soldered directly on the motherboard. So unless you swap the whole laptop with a new one, there's no way to upgrade it.
     
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    xxERIKxx Notebook Deity

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    The g73's gpu isn't soldered into the motherboard.
     
  7. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    g73SW have the gpu on board. You have the JH, that doesnt apply man.
    Only the sandy bridge platform arent upgradable, first gen Core i series yes.
     
  8. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    The J models have removable graphics?
     
  9. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Yep they have.
     
  10. FlyingFalcon

    FlyingFalcon Notebook Evangelist

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    The GTX560 is soldered onto the motherboard. Not the 460. But it doesn't make much of a difference. It's almost impossible to get the 470, 485 etc to work in the G laptops. I think someone did try to swap but did not succeed.
     
  11. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Again, this applies only to jh models.
    G53jh and g73gh both have a mxm card with his own socket and they are reverse mounted (they overclock higher, in fact).

    Starting from sandy bridge series, g53sw,g73sw,g53sx,g74sx have all the gpu soldered on the mobo.
    Which is a bit wrong as a definition because it's not really soldered, it's part of the mobo like a common igp.
    But still it uses pci-ex 2.0 16x over mxm I interface minus the physical socket.

    And yes, upgrades aren't really going to work. But at least on jh models if the gpu goes haywire you can replace it instead of the whole mobo.
     
  12. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Just to wrap up your continued claims that the G73/53 JW and SW have their GPU soldered onto the board. They do not and if this was on the Asus G Series forum you would have been told this by the numerous people who have dissassembled a G73SW as I have done myself with my friends to repaste it for him. People have also tried implementing a 6970M and 470M into a JW and this resulted in failure sadly.

    Here is a picture of the G73SW motherboard with the Asus 460M GTX GPU removed and the Asus 460M GTX next to it.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    In response to the OP the other advice is all correct the 560M is most definetely soldered onto the board and as Asus reverse engineer their cards attempting to put a normal 560M into a G73 would most likely result in failure as it wouldn't fit without some serious modification and the other advice in regards to it being just an overclocked 460M GTX is also very true. Overclock your 460M GTX and look into a new model when the time comes.
     
  13. Morpheus1

    Morpheus1 Notebook Consultant

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    So....I'm not quite that computer smart so let me see if I can Calrify. If I have a GTX 460 then its possible to remove and upgrade it in the future BUT if you have a GTX 560 on the Asus then its soldered on and you SOL? Is that right?

    So it'd be better to buy the cheaper card then.....
     
  14. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Basically you can remove the card that is certain.

    However, all attempts to implement a GPU into the Asus G73/53 series so far has resulted in failure. There is a very high chance in fact is pretty much certain that if you attempted it that it would not work and also that you could damage the card and end up forking out a price for a lump of useless metal.

    As mentioned overclock the GTX 460M if you need more power and if you need more than what the 460M offers you need to consider an upgrade. The 560M is not a worthy upgrade if you already have the 460M GTX you should look elsewhere or wait for the next G series which is what most of us are doing.
     
  15. Morpheus1

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    lol, well, how long can we expect to wait?
     
  16. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    My bad then, I wouldn't insinst without having a solid base to back up my claims.
    I had a few bookmarks but upon further inspection the pics and guides I was looking to are mislabelled and miswritten.
    I was actually looking at g53sw mobo (like mine,soldered) and g74 with sandy bridge (gtx560m soldered).
    But who knows why pics were labelled as g73sw, that's where it got me.

    So based on your pics/infos I was just wrong on the g73sw claim, right, but still g53sw/sx and g74 have all the gpu soldered right on the mobo?

    So g73sw applies to the same thing as jh models, they have an mxm slot and the gpu can be removed?

    That's a great piece of info, and I regret insisting too much, but I was fooled by some wrong things I checked. At least I'm admitting it because I'm learning something new so thanks again Dallers ^^
     
  17. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Honestly fella you should check again your G53SW is not soldered, only the G53SX and G74SX are soldered.

    I am wrong as many times as I am right. So you need not worry ;)
     
  18. Morpheus1

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    So if I understand correctly even IF the GTX 460 on the SW is not soldered I'm not likely to have any luck replacing the GPU because of the design???
     
  19. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Yup im 99.99% sure that you replacing the GPU wont work, not only that you will most likely cause yourself further problems and worst case scenario bugger the new card and be much worse off than when you began.

    If you really want to do something to the GPU get some proper compound like ICD and conduct a repaste and clean out the vents and fans and find your highest overclock.
     
  20. Morpheus1

    Morpheus1 Notebook Consultant

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    Dang, ok, so are there any other G series laptops with an i7 2630 cpu that I could get that I could upgrade the GPU in the future? Or do I have to go with the GTX460 and hope it lasts? Xotic had a G73 with the HD 6990 I think.
     
  21. Zymphad

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    XoticPC did not have that, rofl. Maybe a Clevo but definitely not a G73... again, rofl.
     
  22. OmarAn

    OmarAn Notebook Geek

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    nice desktop :p
     
  23. Morpheus1

    Morpheus1 Notebook Consultant

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    Don't laugh too hard.....

    ASUS G73JH-A1 - XOTIC PC - ASUS Gaming Laptop

    Until you check this one out. It DID have a 6990 but is presently out of stock.
     
  24. Kingpinzero

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    Why thanks :) i need to update the scores thought, with latest 280.26 I saw quite a boost in both 3dmark06 (28,000) and 3dmark11.
    I custom built it and I'm very proud of the performance, I just recently repasted my gtx570 since it's summer, ready for the coming months :)
     
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    ~~Tito~~ Notebook Consultant

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    Not to bump, but has anyone found a solution to upgrade the card to pretty much anything more powerful than the 460m?
     
  26. andjelo100

    andjelo100 Newbie

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    Can I upgrade my ASUS G53SW to Nvidia Geforce GTX 675m. On some forums it says I can, because of my mxm pci-e 2.0 and OpenGL 4.1 but some of them say I can't because it only fits in HM77 chipset. Please help me
     
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    Is anybody listening to me?
     
  28. andjelo100

    andjelo100 Newbie

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    Can I upgrade my ASUS G53SW to Nvidia Geforce GTX 675m. On some forums it says I can, because of my mxm pci-e 2.0 and OpenGL 4.1 but some of them say I can't because it only fits in HM77 chipset. Please help me