At least Yahoo is a proponent of PC as a gaming platform.

FWIW, Yahoo games put up this brief article about how PC gaming is still awesome and why you need a PC for gaming... at least it's something:

http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/.../5-reasons-you-still-need-a-gaming-pc/1389019

 

Excellent little article there. There is still hope!

 

Why don't they just state that PC graphics look by far more better then consoles? And i agree with lower prices for PC games. A console is like a cheap car who consumes a lot of fuel. A PC is a better car (way better) who has more performance, and doesn't eat that much.

 

That article sucks, it just briefly mentions a few points. They're hardly worth considering. Either way, PC is still screwed. All I am seeing now are console games ported over to the PC, even by developers who claim it's other way around.

The only genre that still has a strong base on PC are RPG's and MMORPG's. In fact, I am so worried by recent game developments tending mainly to consoles, that I have decided to postpone my purchase of a Radeon 5870 graphics card.

 

Actually, consoles run GTA IV with 23~35fps.

If console controllers were to be horrible people wouln't be playing with them on PC.

Have you noticed that most of the action games on PC have "Xbox360 Controller Recommended" on the box?

Have you noticed that Sony has barely changed their Dualshock design since PSX era? There isn't much to fix if it isn't broken.

Have you noticed how well Wii is selling just because they approached gaming in a new way? People aren't really complaining about the controllers.

To sum it up, ignorant people who defend their keyboard+mouse combination over controllers are just either kids, who never had the money for consoles or sad adults who never dared to play with consoles.
Before you start making excuses that oh you have played with console(s) more than any of us, think about it - only certain type of games, namely FPS and MMORPG's are better with keyboard & mouse combination. The rest is way more comfortable to play with a controller and this isn't something to argue about, though you are welcome to try.

 

I dunno, I like controllers for everything, My fingers cramp up trying to press shift+w+g to throw grenades and sprint past big tanks constantly

 

I hope you were joking. The keyboard and mouse is far superior to a controller for most games. Go ahead and try playing a PC FPS like Battlefield 2 or Modern Warfare 2 or a simulation game like Sim City 4 or the Sims 3. You will quickly retract your statement.

 

Did you even read what I just posted? I clearly stated FPS and MMORPG games are better with mouse & keyboad. Simulation games are not avalible on consoles anyway, not to mention they play the same as mmo's. (Click and point)

 

Most PC games are FPS's or RPG's. In fact, let me take this one step further. The only kind of a game that a controller is even remotely good for are racing games and even then you would be better off with a wheel. The keyboard and mouse can do everything a controller can faster and more precisely.

The controller is just a dumbed down control mechanism for the masses that allows for fewer controls and no precision whatsoever.

 

PC gaming library if a little more wider than just FPS & RPG's.

Fighting games, action games, rythm games, racing games, adventure games, rpg games generally play better with controller(s). Just because the need for precision isn't very high.

Controllers are in no way 'dumbed down' from anything, it's a whole new approach to the gaming where mouse isn't needed. You have all the buttons and joystick(s) in your hand, it's comfortable and easy to get used to. There are no other buttons to accidentally press and no confusing layout.

The only games where your reaction speed really matters are FPS games and on that part we all know mouse is superior.

 

A controller isn't going to do a better job at anything really. Except racing. Action, adventures and RPG's are all easier to control with a mouse and keyboard. You have more button choices to map actions to and a lot more precision. Sure, you could use a controller and get your handed to you, but I digress. I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with you.

 

To address the main post: Umm...NO. Yahoo is a proponent of advertising for their clients and attempting to hide it in an informational article, but failing miserably at it.

The only pages on that "article" that weren't blatant advertisements were the title and the one about 3D.

 

RTS and flight simulator games with mouse/keyboard. Near impossible with a console controller. And HAWX does not constitute as a flight simulator.

I'm not against consoles, but I just can't play games with a game controller in most cases, period. My thumbs aren't that dextrous to control anything really. I like racing games with them because it's usually fine movements, but not like FPS where you have to jerk around all directions and lock on to a specific pixel with precision.

 

What the hell are you talking about? I don't know from wich planet are you, but on mine, notebooks/desktop systems are much more expensive then any console on the market. Don't tell me that a person who payed 1500-2000$ for a gaming laptop doesn't afford a xbox console, he just doesn't need one cause he knows his machine is by far superior to that junk.
A true gamer is , was, and will ever be, a PC gamer.

 

Please let's not turn this into a flame-fest. The PC is suffering as a gaming platform, albeit mainly due to some really crappy ports from console to PC, that are great games on consoles.

Thankfully there are gaming genres and games like WoW (as much as I hate, it supports PC only), that work best on PC. RTS, FPS, and MMORPG's mainly.

Consoles have their place, absolutely, and are an inexpensive gaming solution. I own an XBOX 360 and am planning on getting a PS3, mainly for its BR capability, but there's a few games that catch my interest too.

But like it or love it, consoles are here to stay and so are PC's. It's just whether or not the PC keeps being supported as a top end gaming platform or not.

 

I find certain action / platformy games handle better with a controller.

The fact that 5 star blockbuster games get released on consoles and the PC is no surprise and no big deal in my opinion.

"Console port" doesn't even mean anything to me anymore. Games aren't written for a console then ported to the PC, usually. Cross platform games just get written abstractly and then built for each platform.

 

...and lo, the holy wars began, with much wailing and gnashing of teeth...


seriously, guys. I have both, i enjoy both. Some folks like one more than another. What is it about the internet that makes "What? You don't like my favorite? Then clearly you suck!" a legitimate argument?

regardless of what your fav is, what style of game you play on it - everyone is entitled to their opinion!

 

Was I the only one that found this article to be an advertising plug for the Alienware M11x?

 

The reason why all the kiddies like their controllers for FPS games is the "auto-hit" feature of consoles. (so long as you are generally shooting in their right direction, you "hit" in a cone even if your aim is actually a miss)

You can be completely horrible and still kill things.
On PCs, this is called cheating...

Consoles are el-cheapo solutions for low-income and low-skill people.
Perfect for children.

 

I wouldn't say it's for "low-income people", just a low budget alternative to PC gaming. As big as that hit box or cone may be, I can't shoot anyone in consoles to save my life.

 

You are confused... I play both a PS3 and a computer from a 47" HDTV.
I find the games on PS3 to be useful when I am entertaining young people or for a blu-ray, but haven't really found a game I want to play on a PS3.

Console gamers are just easier to manipulate with bad games... its about marketing to the lowest common denominator...

 

Since that console was named the best platform just few months ago you could check Wiki for the list of games .. or just skip the multiplatform games and check the exclusive games.

You can always check for Metacritic for the scores.

Some (exclusive) games I see that have got alot of attention :

- Uncharted : Drake's Fortune
- Uncharted 2 : Among Thieves
- Demon's Souls
- Killzone 2
- inFamous
- Valkyrie Chornicles
- Metal Gear Solid 4
- LittleBigPlanet
- Wipeout HD
- MotorStorm Pacific Rift

 

I think if you consider yourself a gamer you should be comfortable with a controller or a keyboard+mouse no matter what game it is...........
most people own consoles plus gaming computers now a days so why argue if a controller or mouse/keyboard is better than the other don't you think theirs more important things to argue about.

 

That "PC versus console" debate is pointless. Consoles sell much more than PC's because they are cheap, plug and play (easy to hook on your HDTV) and there's no need to maintain or upgrade them. That's why most games are released on console first then ported on the PC.

Now, from a technical standpoint, let's put this. Current generation of consoles have been released around 2005. At that time, their hardware was top notch, plus a console OS is much more efficient in terms of resources (CPU, GPU, memory) than a typical PC. So, back in 2005, a PS3 would blow away about any gaming PC of that time. Now, in 2010, I bet that any mainstream or gaming laptop blow away a console in terms of power. Let's say you have a HDTV set. You have a PS3 and a gaming PC (let's say an Alienware). You hook both to the HDTV via HDMI. The Alienware (gaming PC) will offer a much better image than the PS3. Also, the gameplay will be smoother most likely. Now, let's wait for the next generation of consoles to come. That will be another story.

Bottom line, there's nothing bad about a console. A PC needs to be maintained. There are some potential configuration/performance issues as well, dealing with drivers, etc. A console behavior is more "predictable". It's like a toaster. As far as I'm concerned, I'm a huge first person shooter fan. I prefer the keyboard/mouse combo so I prefer my PC for that. That doesn't mean I would not buy a console and people owning console are no way "low wave" guys. What do you think about celebrities owning a PS3. Are they poor? Certainly not! Just my two cents...

 

Speaking of which, when are the next gen of consoles coming?

 

Not anytime soon. Both Sony and Microsoft have confirmed 10-year plan for their consoles. Note that both of them will launch a new type of a motion-controller this year.

Microsoft brings us Natal, basically evolved EyeToy. Suitable for arcade games.
Sony brings us Arc, basically evolved Wiimote. (Though in full 3D-mapping with precise movements).

 

@ chaos proxy.
What console FPS doesn't use auto aim?

 

i have to dissagre with the BF games. i played all of those and you CAN'T turn off auto-aim. the other 2 im not sure.

 

Sheesh, guys! yeah, OK, consoles and PC games have very devoted fans, we get it.

Not that I don't enjoy a good flamewar, but there are some situations where you're just not going to convince the other guy of your point of view - so why not relax, play a game on your system of choice, and contemplate something easier (like world peace, perhaps?)

 

What? 10 year plan? How can they continue to release games with ten year old hardware. I guess you can really get your money's worth then. This means the PC market will most likely stagnate too because of all the ports. sigh.

 

This is why you play PC games and not bad console ports.

If its another mario clone, side-scrolling fighter, or perhaps sports button-masher then it might be worth it on console.
If not, buy it on PC.

The PC market is safe. There will always be a market and a way to make money. You can be sure someone will want to take advantage of it.

 

KernalPanic - you are talking as if most of the games on consoles are avalible on PC aswell. Note that the highest rated games tend to be console-only.

In most cases it's not even worth for developers to even consider a PC port because the lack of sales, thus many games what have announced as multiplatform games (ie Assassins Creed II, Mirror's Edge and such) will first be released on consoles and then, about 6-8 months later on PC.

 

/shrug
Console-only games don't generally appeal to me.

This would also be the reason why it isn't ported.
PC gamers wouldn't be interested as it isn't the right demographic.

PC gamers tend to require a lot more from games.

 

Are you serious or just trolling? ..

You are talking as for everyone on PC-'side' here. Make it honest, it's about you.

Also, most of the games are made for consoles only because they are made specifially for that console hardware and well made games tend to sell really good on consoles. Most likely you don't even know about the games avalible on consoles or just play FPS/RTS games. It's simple. Because all the other games play and most likely are only on consoles.

Do note that games that were PC-only before this generation consoles are now also getting console-versions in their sequels. So you can't really say console gamers are missing out, it's the other way around.

It's true though that games that are also avalible on PC are usually better in terms of visuals and have the possibility to add mods. No question there.

 

Yay, another PC vs Consoles thread of insecurity and unnecessary justifications.

2012.

 

I'm serious... I think perhaps you are simply not seeing this clearly...

I HAVE both... I can play both...

I like a little bit of everything (save honestly platform jumpers like mario)
Both FPS and RPGs are shadows of their glory on a PC... both graphics-wise and content wise, and mod-wise.

Frankly, sequels that are just more-of-the-same are not PC gamers missing out. They know the PC gamers have moved on.

If you like consoles... then by all means have fun...
The PC market isn't going anywhere.

 

This thread is closed since it is turning into another PC vs. console flamewar . . .