Ati and Nvidia (My Experiences)

I am a both user of ati and nvidia,I used them in both desktops and notebooks.

I would like to talk about my expriences.

ATI CARDS

They weren't succesfull at future,the first accomplishment was when the 3650 and 4650 were released.3650 was a updated gpu in gaming (not today) and 4650 was a sign of success giving the best performance and price ratio.


NVIDIA CARDS

Geforce 6xxx 7xxx and 8xxx series weren't great.6xxx series were not papular but 7xxx are known by many users expecially 7600 and 7900 GT,GTX.

8xxx series were a failure although they were the new gpu that support HDMI directx10 and H264. at 3 or 4 years ago.Many 8600 GT cards failed 8400GT users suffered.Also the GS models were a failure too however 8800 GTX,GTS cards were very papular and a big success.They are still used by many users and everybody should respect this GPU.


SUPPORT

ATI

It is easy to find dirivers also old models are supported,however some new graphics cards like 48xxx and 56xx series dont have a driver for windows xp.The drivers are not updated usually like NVIDIA but they are efficient enough and they do what they should do.

NVIDIA

Nvidia always and always releases new drivers,which means it thinks about it's users.However there isn't a much difference between new drivers and old drivers,but users are always able to try all the drivers avaible and get the best performance from their graphic cards,I love NVIDIA's support.Also power minizer is a plus too.


TEMPERTURES

ATI

Old models like X1600T were known to run hot,but who cares.

I have a X1650t in a desktop,it is 5 years old and still working like a charm.

I did a furmark stress test to it before and I have seen the card reaching 128C,but there wasnt any problem.After I fugured out heatsink was not contacting with gpu and the thermal paste was dead,I fixed it and know it doesn't pass 87C.Even some ati cards run hot,they are very durable.


Also the new models like 5xxx have very low power consomption,they use very less electricity and run fairly cool.


NVIDIA

8xxx have heat issuess,if you are not living on north or south pole it is hard to keep them cool.They usually run at 80-90C but it depends in cooling.

9600 GT is a card that runs cool I suppose,but the GTX series use to much electricity and run much hot compared to ATI cards.

OVERCLOCKING

ATI


It is not easy to overclock old models as X1600T but 3650 and 4650 series are good for overclocking.People can increase the core clock by 100-150mhz but of course it depends in cooling.


NVIDIA


Some nvidia cards can be easly overclocked as 9600GT,GTX series run hot,but if there is a great cooling the core clock can be increased 100-150mhz.

There are also coolbits and many tweaks to overclock NVIDIA cards so I beleive NVIDIA is better at it.


That is what I think between two,just to let you know.

 

My experience with both brands has been pretty good so far. Any abnormal failures I've had with computers have been with two systems with Nvidia cards:

The first was my HP DV6000 series laptop, though I'm pretty sure it wasn't the fault of the Nvidia Geforce Go 7200 card, but HP's rather dismal manufacturing, on top of the GPU overclocking I was doing, which further accelerated that computer's demise. The WiFi card failed before anything else did.

Second issue, was my 8800GTS 320 MB video card as it failed, possibly from being transported in my car, but perhaps not. I still have the card in fact, and I wonder if the card wasn't to blame to this day. I need to reattach the heat management system to the card and give it a whirl. I figured that if it was really broken, I thought I would put to rest my curiosity and see in the actual components. If any of you ever seen the G80 GPU die from the 8800GTX and GTS desktop cards, it's ****ing huge by the way.

As you can see, the failures are pretty much my fault in the most likely case (especially with the Hp laptop)
The third Nvidia graphics system I've had: the 9800M GS 512 MB in my Asus G50 series has been nothing short of excellent, OC's pretty well too.

Nvidia has always had very good driver support, and ran Linux without issue.

As for the ATi cards I've dealt with, they've been excellent too, no failures or anything. Problem is that Nvidia gets so much developer support, and Nvidia has pretty much the monopoly on GPGPU related functionality. I hope that changes soon though, as the Bullit physic library is open source, works on all platforms both CPU and GPU. PhysX until recently was coded to work on a single CPU core at best when without a dedicated GPU to run it in order to push the platform. ******* jerks. Nvidia does have better driver support, I absolutely cannot deny that.

My second laptop I ever had was equipped with a Mobility Radeon X600. It wasn't until about February that the laptop died. My friend who I sold it to (I only had it for 6 months when I sold it to him, he had it for 2.5 years) as well as I are pretty sure it was the video cable and screen going out.

The 4670 1 GB DDR3 that was in my current desktop until December was a great deal, maybe my favorite video card I've ever had, considering what it did, for how much it cost, as well as being nicely overclockable. Hard to believe it, but it usually out ran the 9800M GS in my lappy, despite the 9800M GS having a 256 bit memory interface (you can thank the 750 MHz vs. 530 MHz core speed for that!) Considering I mostly played BF2 and other games at the time that fit the card nicely for 1080p resolution, it was perfect. The OCing I did allowed me to go from 750 MHz core/800 MHz memory to 800 MHz/925 MHz taking the stock 3DMark06 score from 6800 to 8000

The 5850 1 GB I replaced the 4670 with is also a gold performer itself, though it gets a bit hot and of course draws quite a bit of current. It's quite a butt kicker. Except for the recent Metro 2033, everything plays easily at 1080p, nice and smooth, even Crysis DX10 maxed out.

The 5570 1 GB DDR3 in my recently built low profile desktop using the CPU and RAM that used to be in my main desktop is very powerful, in fact more so than the 4670 I had. Also it's OCing capability is astounding. 650 MHz core/900 MHz memory to 830 MHz core/1100 MHz memory. My only real complaint was how expensive it was when I got it from Newegg ($85.00), but I guess low profile form factor + DX11 GPU, etc made it pricey. I would've gladly payed another 20 or 30 dollars for a version with GDDR5 though.

 

lol at the OP.

"ATI CARDS

They weren't succesfull at future,the first accomplishment was when the 3650 and 4650 were released"

the 3000 series for ATI was kinda fail.

"8xxx series were a failure"

dominated by the nvidia 8000 during this period. Get your facts straight.

 

The desktop and laptop 8 series cards were pretty damn impressive for the time. The 8800s of all types are still very good cards for most games, even 3 years after release. Desktop Radeon 3xxxs did pretty well. I remember I was working at Fry's Electronics at the time of release and so many people came in to specifically get 3850s and 3870s with GDDR4.

 

How come no one posts about 8700M?

Ive had mine over a year and a half and haven't had any problem with it (performance and heat).

 

Hmm, it seems that a rather large amount of the 8800 GTS 320MB and 640MB models failed. Apparently, the memory on both of those cards was faulty.

Anyway, my experiences with ATI have been excellent. My 3650 has never failed me, it performs well for such an old mid range card, and it overclocks really good. The temperature of this card has always been excellent, even when overclocking. I have never seen it above 66C under full load.

Driver support could be a lot better, but it doesn't bother me as much as you would think.

My experiences with NVIDIA haven't been so great. The 8600 GTS in my desktop performs a little better than my 3650, but not by much. My main problem with it is the temperature, and it's occasional artifacting with GTA IV. It's cooler is not good, only being a single slot cooler, and as a result of that, it gets to a higher temperature than I'd like. Also, after about half an hour of GTA IV, it artifacts, and I have to shut down the machine to get it to stop.

Driver support has been pretty good though.