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    Ati mobility radeon hd 2400xt vs Nvidia 8600m gt

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by chesieofdarock, Jul 12, 2007.

  1. chesieofdarock

    chesieofdarock Notebook Deity

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    I tried to look, but couldn't find anything comparing these 2 cards. I'm looking at the new dell inspiron 1520 or the new gateway m series coming on july 22 and I want to know which graphics card will be better for gaming? thanks for the help
     
  2. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Most likely, the 8600M GT. We are only just now getting benchmarks for the nVidia part (8600), but I've never even seen the ATI part in the wild yet.
     
  3. expo25kr

    expo25kr Notebook Evangelist

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    and Nvidia still manages to pull out better products than ATI...now if Nvidia would make a better vista driver now... -_-;;

    Currently
    Intel>AMD
    Nvidia>ATI

    qed.
     
  4. chesieofdarock

    chesieofdarock Notebook Deity

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    hmm okay i'll wait until the gateway is released before buying anything anyway just to see if more data becomes available
     
  5. mujtaba

    mujtaba ZzzZzz Super Moderator

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    This comment is correct about the desktop platform.
    As I said in another thread, ATI has 65nm which is a big bonus for the laptop.
    Remember the pre-Core 2 Duo era : The K8 was better that Core Duo but it was reversed in notebooks, Intel had 65nm and AMD 90nm.
     
  6. chesieofdarock

    chesieofdarock Notebook Deity

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    ok and btw how much vram does the hd 2400xt have anyway?
     
  7. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    well. if amd would release their mobile midrange parts, im sure they would perform really close to the nvidia equivalent. obviously amd hasn't been able to compete recently in the ultra high end gpu mobile sector (17"+ notebooks) the x1800 never really held up, it didn't perform very well either. there isn't competition from amd for anything go 7800 and up.

    that means that in the mobile world, amd only has competitors for nvidia's 7 series gpu's 15" and under. the entire 8 series line goes uncontested from amd. soon we will probably see that hd 2 series.

    the hd 2400's will equate the nvidia 8400's, and the hd 2600's will match the nvidia 8600's. pretty standard procedure there. it might just take a while for amd to release their parts.

    side note - the ultra high end desktop sector is owned by nvidia (no 8800gtx competition - x2900xtx yet to be released)

    but aside from mobile gpu's at the moment, nvidia usually doesn't straight up trump amd the way intel does amd with processors. the core 2 duo is so far ahead of anything amd has to offer that it can barely compete, even on price. but amd gpu's are just struggling to get out of the gate. once they are out, they will match up really well against nvidia in terms of both pricing and performance.

    just my two cents.

    also- manufacturing size is a huge deal, but in this case its not going to matter. you can definitely expect on target performance of the hd 2600 xt to the 8600m gt, and the regular hd 2600 to the 8600m gs. i dont know why the OP is comparing an hd 2400 xt to an 8600m gt... thats just not going to happen.
     
  8. CeeNote

    CeeNote Notebook Virtuoso

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    From what I've seen so far, the 8600m gt = x2600xt. Therefore I'd assume that the 8600m gt is considerably faster than the x2400xt.
     
  9. osso002

    osso002 Notebook Evangelist

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    As far as I know, nvidia has always rocked ati in drivers :eek:
     
  10. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    disagree. catalyst has been rocking since about the 9800 vs nvidia 5 series days. before that, there were some real ati driver issues. definitely by the x800 days the ati drivers were doing good.

    im enjoying nvidia drivers now, but i will say at least one nvidia driver - 165.01, to be specific - rendered my os entirely inoperable.

    and now both camps suck for drivers

    0 mobility support - entirely 3rd party based, thank God laptopvideo2go knows what they are doing

    vista drivers are horrible for dx9, dx10 is yet to be seen but its not looking good either. 64 bit drivers are even worse. if you are moving from xp to vista, good luck. if you are moving from xp to vista AND taking the 64 bit plunge, start praying...

    and that is true for both amd and nvidia. and you all know it.
     
  11. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    whichever one adds laptop video driver support again gets my business in the future. :)
     
  12. chesieofdarock

    chesieofdarock Notebook Deity

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    so how much vram does the hd 2400xt have?
     
  13. Undsputed

    Undsputed Notebook Evangelist

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    Wait to see about the M in 10 days. The full options are unknown and we're not even sure if the 2400 would be the only card they offer. They might even offer Nvidia choices too.

    Oh let them go ahead and add an 8700m or equivalent...then I'd be tempted haha.
     
  14. boyciejunior

    boyciejunior Notebook Geek

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    hd2600xt is better than 8600m GT and GS
    hd2600 is better than the gs only

    hd2400 is better than 8400m GT GS and G
    hd2400xt is alot better than 8400m series and nearly approaches the 8600m series in 3dmark06 :eek:

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

    its suprising how people tend to write off Ati Solutions :( , but hasnt this proved that the Ati still has a glimmer of hope if it can produce cheaper and higher performance cards for its class :D

    i know i the 8800m gtx is much better than the 2600xt but i am putting this analysis in retrospect to class (and price :p )
     
  15. boyciejunior

    boyciejunior Notebook Geek

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    ooo and to answer question it has 768mb dynamic vram with 256mb dedicated. Hope it helps :)

    i think its availible in ddr2 or gddr3
     
  16. Ackeron

    Ackeron Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Thread necromancy ftl, and not even containing correct information. Don't use notebookcheck benchmarks as a source; their numbers are rarely accurate. Ugh why am I even replying to this.
     
  17. footbsmrts

    footbsmrts Newbie

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    I bought my Gateway M-6824 yesterday and it has a Radeon HD 2400XT it has dedicated graphics with up to 892 MB Hypermemory and 128MB GDDR3.

    along w/ 3 gigs of memory, and 250 gigs of hard drive.
     
  18. twiztedj

    twiztedj Notebook Enthusiast

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    CCC says I have 895 MB of Hypermemory, and http://www.systemrequirementslab.com says it is 128 MB dedicated. It gave me a fail rating for games that require a minimum of 256 MB , so I don't know what to think of all that.
     
  19. boyciejunior

    boyciejunior Notebook Geek

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    Very Rude :(
     
  20. s0ap

    s0ap Notebook Consultant

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    I have heard that the 2600xt is near the same class as the 8700m. As far as everything else its 8600m gt ddr3 > hd 2600 ddr3 > 8600m gt ddr2 > hd 2600 ddr2.

    edit: On a further note, it is said that the hd 2600 ddr3 has great overclocking potential. I don't know about teh 8600m gt ddr3, but i'm sure it somewhat capable as well.
     
  21. boyciejunior

    boyciejunior Notebook Geek

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    yes thats what i heard aswell, good analysis soap :), i have only found the 8700m in the very expensive dell XPS laptops and the 2600xt is availible in quite a few notebooks. I think for my next laptop i will go for HD2400xt , seems a nice GFX card and is availible in small laptops :)
     
  22. s0ap

    s0ap Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks boyciejunior. And if you are looking for a small laptop 14" or less. The hd2400 xt is a great option (if not one of the best).
     
  23. Ackeron

    Ackeron Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Sorry, most people frown upon replying to 5 month old threads that's all. Moderators don't like it. Then you posted that the Radeon HD 2600 only beats the 8600 GS, which is not true. Then you linked to notebookcheck's benchmark section, which is notorious for being inaccurate and incorrect.

    But then you agreed with Soap's (correct) analysis, so it's all good.