Ati tray tools 1.2.6.955

Probably the best Ati tweaking utility - Ati Tray Tools comes in a new version.

For your downloading pleasure:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/atitraytools/189/

Added new overclocking method for X1xxx boards with Overdrive support. "Driver Level overclocking".
Near the same method first was introduced in RivaTuner and then in ATITool.
What will this method do ?
1. Overclocking will be done by Catalyst itself like Overdrive
2. Voltage will be applied by driver for GPU and by ATT for memory. Only for hardware with voltage regulator
3. ATT will emulate Overdrive job, but will allow to set clocks when you want it instead of when you
run full screen 3D application.
4. This should work even if you didn't disable ATI HotKey poller! And clocks will not reset by that service in 3D games
5. With this method clocks shouldn't not resets when you play any video files (tested on my 1800XT)
6. More stable overclocking.
7. You can create full featured overclocking profiles in ATT and use them in game profiles.
8. For Video board without OverDrive support ATT will use alternative method for overclocking like used in ATI WinClk and also
in last release of RivaTuner.

But this method has some disadvantages:
1. Big steps for clock regulators. For GPU about 6Mhz and about 9Mhz for Memory.
2. Not all voltages can be applied. Try not to set voltage less than 1.1000 and voltage can not be applied if video
doesn't support voltage control.
Improved Overdrive 3 support. Now ATT will calculate nearest possible clocks before applying.
[+] Added Japenese, Finnish translations
[+] Added option to include clocks in Overclocking Profile. Now you can create profile just for FAN or for Voltage control
without GPU and Memory clocks. "C" means that profile has Clocks included.
Updated user interface in some dialog windows.
Updated "New AA & AF Methods" database. Added a lot of experimental options to improve antialiasing methods
like SAAOM, EATM.

Cheers,

Ivan

 

The Overdrive button is still greyed out?

 

Ivan, did you try this? I'm going to download it along with a copy of the new(er) Omega drivers and see if I can overclock my X700.

 

Let me know how that one goes, chaz!

 

i can't seem to use anything over 6.3 on my X600 and still be able to start up HL2 etc.

anyone know why i am having trouble?

 

Hi Chaz, and others!

Yes I tried ATT - and it works as usual. No overdrive of course, but I have read some people use it even for undervolting ati cards.

It likes CCC, and it can overclock and stay that way in 3D. I tested it with 6.10 drivers. I don't like the new tray icon though. It is ugly.
Also, I was playing Fear Combat for an hour with OSD to see my FPS in game with just a slight 380/380 overclock, without cooler, and I got BSOD. At the time I had NHC, ATT (using auto 3D OC profiles) and CCC running and CPU was undervolted and overclocked too. Temp wasn't the issue (65 C), and bsod was err... just a blue screen without any text, and strange noise from the speakers. I did it again, but without CCC and ATT OSD and auto profiles, and it worked well. So I reckon it must be something with powerplay in CCC and auto overclocking in ATT or even OSD in fear.

I didn't have more time to play with it, but will do tomorrow.

Ivan

 

I installed the latest version of ATI Tray Tools and the Omega 6.9 drivers - and they work with overclocking the X700.

Here's my first run of 3DMark05 with 410MHz core: 400MHz memory overclock:

I'll update that after I do a few more test runs. My graphics card clocks did not get reset.

All clear Twilight.

 

Long way to go before you hit my 3DMark scores, Chaz

 

Is there a tutorial anywhere that can tell me how I can overclock my X1400 safely but productivly. I don't understand much of anything that Ikovac said in his last post lol. Thanks if someone could help.

 

Great Chaz! I get 3202 3dmark05 with my good old x700 128MB at 412/432 (or 412/864 in Vampire's numbers )

Vampire - the king of the x700 OC! What are your default values? My x700 128MB @ 350/300 gives 2170 3dmark05. I think my 3202 at freqs that I can play FEAR Combat on are respectable too! But seeing your numbers I could try and squeeze some more FPS out of the poor x700! Good going!

Edit: The fastest 128MB x700 on Futuremark ORB is 2900ish 3dmark05! I knew it!

Hi madroxinide,

Sorry I was typing on my MDA PRO (personal digital assistant device) and I didn't have too much time or will explaining all of the things and abbrevations. Chaz, Vampire and others here are old veterans of overclocking and surely know what was I talking about, but let me clarify a bit:

My CPU (main processor) is overclocked (runs faster), and it is undervolted (runs cooler). Check my signature for that.

My GPU (Ati x700 128MB) is overclocked in Ati Tray tools (ATT) and in that test I was using 380/380 (first number is in MHz for core, and the other for memory). Default values are 350/300 for my card, which is BELOW the factory settings in most x700.

In order to check some FPS (frames per second - meaning the fluency or smoothness) in games I use ATT's OSD (OnScreen Display) feature that shows me interesting info while playing games.

In order to have a cool "normal" speeds while in Windows and "fast" speeds while gaming I use ATT's Auto overclocking that loads overclocking profiles depending whether I am playing 3D games or not. That means my GPU core works at 350/300 while in windows, and at let's say 380/380 when gaming! Automatically.

Ati drivers 6.10 mean drivers that ATi releases once a month. 6 is 2006, and 10 is the month number 10 - october (and octo means 8 in latin ).
CCC is Catalyst Control Center - a part od Ati drivers that makes some settings possible - I use it mainly for Powerplay settings. (BTW Chaz and others may know that I have had some issues with Powerplay, but it finally works fine on my comp, I think it is because of 6.10 drivers)

Powerplay is the ATI technology for power management. It automatically slows down the GPU (graphic processor) core, turns on and off parts of it depending on usage. It makes your battery run longer and your notebook cooler in windows.

NHC is Notebook Hardware Control - the best program in my opinion for Intel/Ati platform. It controls undervolting of my CPU etc. It can overclock ATi too, and control Powerplay.

BSOD is the Blue Screen of Death - serious error in Windows when they shut down. Mainly for hardware issues (OC issues, drivers etc...). It contains some info and ususally dumps registry content in a dmp file on your disk for debugging reasons. By default it resets comp, but you can set it to stay on and read the info.

And now I would check this forum for overclocking x1400. Be sure to check some basic info on overclocking and read a great thread on x700 overclocking.

Ivan

 

My default numbers are 350/330 (Or 350/660). They give me about 2780. I dont remember the exact number. And you of course know my overclock scores If you check the FutureMark ORB database, I hold the highest x700 score on 3DMark05 and 06

 

Of course I know! And I salute you. I am glad that we "met" here on NBR. The thing is that 256MB version is faster even on default settings. On 256MB x700 in your case (and I guess in Chaz's case too) 3400-2800=600 3dmarks05 increase which is great. On 128 MB in my case it is 3200-1300=900 which is even better! So the bottom line is that 256MB version is a better solution to start with. x700 128MB like in my case was hopelessly underclocked and somehow underestimated by many people.

Once again - great score! Are you still trying to get even better scores? Using Att? Do you use latencies?

Cheers,

Ivan

 

Thanks

I havent been messing with higher scores for a while. With new drivers I may try however. Watch out FutureMark

I've tried to mess with the latencies, but any time I try to apply a different latency I get horible artifacts within seconds, even in normal windows, and then theres a hard lock up. Maybe I need to apply some AS5 to my GPU memory chips. Chaz, did you ever figure out how to get that heat spreader off the graphics memory? I've never figured it out.

Everyone underestimates the x700 in any form. Its been a very versatile graphics card for you, chaz, me and probably many many others. It even manages to almost rival the 6800 I have in my old desktop in a gaming environment.

Edit: I decided a while ago that when I upgrade to 2GB of RAM and get the 2.26ghz PM processor I'd try for 3500 in Mark05 btw

 

I have removed the big copper heatpipe, although I never got the copper shell off the card.
Remember that applying AS5 will only make a difference if those memory chips are in contact with the heatsink. I'm not sure they are.

The Mobility Radeon X700 really is a spectacular card. Its core is extremely powerful (R420). I even beat my desktop's Radeon 9800XT 256MB with it in 3DMark05, although that card is slightly stronger in certain games thanks to a 256-bit bus. In newer games, the X700 is faster; the R360 core of the 9800 series never did like complex lighting. The fact that I can match the 9800XT's performance with my laptop card is quite a feat.

Looks like I have a bit of catch-up work to do; once you get that Pentium M 780, I'll never be able to catch you.

 

I wasnt sure about that big hunk of copper. If it can come off and there is contact with the memory, I'd love to apply some AS5.

Beating the 9800XT is very impressive. But I still like almost rivaling a desktop 6800 in gaming That things 3DMark scores beat the x700 of course.

Muhuwhahaha!!! Must upgrade and get better scores!!!

 

Time for me to install this one too and overclock my X700! Chaz, Twilight and Ivan, you are not forgetting Charlie right hehe

I don't think I will ever be able to brake Twilight score (without killing my notebook) but I am able to get a nice 2800 3dmark05 score after OC and my notebook unplugged. Yes I know, I have a weird notebook that scores higher when it is unplugged. I think it is a Powerplay issue.

Charlie

 

I think first you'd hafta go outside, and then you'd be cooked I'm just messing around

 

I don't think we ever figured out why you got higher scores on battery. My video card is automatically underclocked and undervolted on battery by PowerPlay, I do not think it is possible for me to overclock then.
2,800 is a decent score for your X700 128MB.

 

Charlie, Peru?

I remember one Charlie overclocking, but I would say he had a different name and avatar. My apologies in advance if I made a mistake here.

Anyway Charlie, x700 overclockers are always welcome here. Hehe!

And that 2800 mark on unplugged is a weird thing. I guess you may have the same issue like I had. My Optimum battery was FASTER than Best Performance setting in Powerplay. I mean frequencies were HIGHER! Strange. 6.10. fixed that.

And now a question in connection to the thread title:

Do you guys use ATT on a daily basis? Because I did some testing and saw some instabilities with Powerplay on and ATT on. Namely BSOD (only one but I wasn't doing anything on my comp at the time - it stood idle for 15 minutes and crashed . Now I was testing many games beforehand, and overclocking a bit using auto profiles. I usually kept the Powerplay off, but since it works well in 6.10 I use it now.

Another issue: NHC cannot control Powerplay anymore with 6.10! CCC can.

Ivan

 

Notebook solutions is the same Charlie as before.

Charlie, you have a strange notebook. Have you ever just turned off Powerplay and tested it again?

I can overclock very very slightly when my notebook is in power save with PowerPlay on, but I artifact and lock up very quickly.

I only use ATT when I overclock for whatever purpose. Its off any other time.

 

I do, I have it set to automatically start with Windows. PowerPlay works as normal for me, and underclocks/undervolts the GPU on battery. However, if I hibernate or put the laptop in standby and then resume while on battery, my screen does have artifacts on the screen background; changing or refreshing the background fixes the issue. Other than that, I have no problems with ATT + PowerPlay.

 

I downloaded the new Omega Drivers and the new ATT. I can finally use new dirvers and OC at the same time But these drivers dont net as high 3DMark scores. Its hard for me to hit 3300 now. The one time I tried my old 450/805 clock I Blue Screened.

Edit: Got those clocks to work for about 20 seconds. 3DMark 05 did what could only be described as "Go into the light screening". From the corners of the screen, there was all of a sudden these large white areas quickly coming twoard the center. When the enveloped about 3/4 of the screen the images on the screen stopped moving and there was this oval area in the middle of the screen you could barely see over the "light" and it was quickly shrinking as the white took over the screen. I had to hold the power button to reset.

 

Still have the same problem with ATT & 3dmark, that is that the overclocking resets itself to factory settings. This happenes only with 3dmark and not when playing games.
Still, ATT is much better than CCC.


swank

 

Hmm...I will have to try these out on my x300. I use ATT everyday as well, it loads with windows. I actually keep power play turned off and if I am in a situation that I really need to conserve the battery, I have a setting set to lower they clocks to conserve power. When I get the chance I will post some 3Dmark05 scores for my x300. My best to date is about 1973. I think it is the 6th score or something on futuremark, except I don't think I have it published right now. One of these days, I would like to break the 2k mark!

 

Too bad to hear that Twilight I wonder how the new drivers will work on my system.

Yes Ivan, it is me Charlie-Peru. I changed my name (thanks to Chaz) and named it after our company Notebook Solutions.

Charlie

 

I also noticed my scores are not as high; they were around 3,300 with a 410:400 clock with the Omega 6.3's.
All the games I ran so far with the new drivers run flawlessly, so that is all I am really concerned with.

What drivers are you using? I had this problem before.
1. Download the latest 6.9 Omegas.
2. Download the latest version of ATT (link on front page of this thread).
3. Uninstall old video drivers + the version of ATT you have installed.
4. Restart.
5. Install new ATI Drivers + ATT.
6. Restart.

Let me know if that works.

 

Hi Charlie! Good to "see" you again. With lmark84, hitman and shampoo OC team is more or less complete.

The same here with new drivers, good gaming performance (no too many glitches or speed drops in FEAR). Fear Combat on minimum settings, but 1280x800 never goes under 50 fps. No overclock. 6.10 has nothing for us I think. I expect 6.13 to be something. (Remember 5.13?)

I had that on two occasions - on both GPU clock was too high. But my 3d app stopped responding beforehand. Then it changed into purple, green etc - it was really something (besides it was actually dying in the process ) power button was the remedy.

And Vampire - I tried the whole set of my overclocking profiles in ATT - all work - even the fastest gaming stable 413/432. GPU over 417 is very unstable. Memory over 435 tends to show spikes. What is interesting is that I cannot overclock over 400/400 or so without latencies set! So in my case latencies actually give me that extra boost performance and possibility to overclock even more.

Now this thread made me curious why you guys report lower marks, and I am quite happy with mine. 6.9 and 6.10 would always give me close or over 3200 on my fastest settings. Before it wasn't so. More like 3050 or 3100. I am using ati 6.10 at the moment.

Cheers,

Ivan

 

Gaming performance is of course what matters the most If I decide to go for those record breaking OC's though, you know I'm swiching back to the 6.3's

x700 OC TEAM FOREVER!!!!

Interesting that these new dirvers make the higher clocks unstable. I'm deffenetly going to try messing with the latencies when I'm on the Windows side of my HDD.

 

I had that appear last night when trying to re-OC my X1400. at 540/500, 3DMark05 would not finish and I would get the freezing and colour corruption. Using catalyst 6.10s here. It was odd because it just suddenly froze and did that, normally some pre-warning would be given. Now, with the Omega 6.7s, I could OC to 560/540 before 3DMark05 would not finish.

If everyone else is trying the 6.3s, could someone please link me to them? I'd love to also have a go at comparing them.

 

Heres a link to the old 6.3's.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1361

 

I'm not sure that the Omega 6.3's will work with an X1400; I believe 6.4 was the first driver set that had support for the X1000 series.

Great idea, we should start a team. We should all put something in our sig . . "NBR X700 Overclock Team" or something.

 

Yeah, I was using ATT. I will try tomorrow using powerstrip and compare programs.

 

Use tweakguides and you get about 200 3dmark 05 scores.

Don't add mip map filtering or you lose 1000 3dmark 05 scores :-X