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    Average 980m overclock?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Phase, May 27, 2015.

  1. thegh0sts

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    gelid has been good to me so far....might see if i can get higher CFM fans for my R1.
     
  2. thegh0sts

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    so nvidia inspector + MSI AB is ok cos it seems that even though the core voltage is locked out on AB it doesn't reset it to the default voltage so you can use Nvidia inspector to set the overclock and use AB to do your monitoring.

    hmmm.....
     
  3. Mr. Fox

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    Yep, that works really fine. Or, you can use EVGA Precision X and take care of all the above using one tool instead of two. Although, using RTSS with HWiNFO64 is far more effective and robust than MSI AB or EVGA Precision X for monitoring purposes. It's really unfortunate that MSI AB does not support MXM voltage control. The nice thing about EVGA Precision X is that it not only gives you voltage control, but once you have the voltage dialed in for the overclock the profiles you save also remember the voltage, temp targets and power target settings, so it becomes a really simple one-click overclock once the profiles are saved with your ideal settings. You can do something similar with NVIDIA Inspector batch files. MSI AB is far more limited in what it can do for notebooks than the other options.
     
  4. thegh0sts

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    i'm re-evaluating the software packages i use to montior because i want to see the frame time as well as a the frame rate to give a bit more context to any stuttering. so i think...

    Nvidia Inspector for settin the overclock
    HWinfo64 for just fan control or fan control + partial monitoring
    RTSS for statistics serving
    AfterBurner for full or partial monitoring

    I have issues with Prema's vBIOS and Precision X where the GPU temp limit slider would keep resetting to 0 on system boot. I am not sure what's causing this so I went with nvidia inspector to "hide" that for now. Nvidia inspector only runs once when I login to my PC so really only HWinfo64, RTSS, and AB that would be running.
     
  5. Keith

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    I still can't get over what the 980m upgrade did to my GT60. The performance difference from the 780m that came with it to the 980m is massive. IC Diamond keeps the 980m in the low 70's max. That's even with a small overclock of +50/+300.
     
  6. D2 Ultima

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    [​IMG]
    XD
     
  7. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    making me jealous over here with an 880m hitting the low 90s on stock
     
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  8. D2 Ultima

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    Sell it (lol I dunno who'll buy it tho) and buy a 970M or something. DO EET
     
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  9. thegh0sts

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    I'm with D2: ditch the 880M and get a 970M or 980M...preferably 980M :D
     
  10. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    laptop gpus are so expensive. i'm holding out to see if any more leaks come for that 990m/1080m gpu this fall
     
  11. thegh0sts

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    oh ok, wait till september and reassess!
     
  12. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    i feel like getting a whole new sager instead of just a gpu. 1000 dollar gpu or get a cpu and ram and hard drive and whole package brand new for like 700 dollars more. those 4k screens sound tempting and the 980m can handle most games over 30fps, but having a few extra fps with the 990m couldnt hurt lol. plus skylake and ddr4 ram you know?
     
  13. thegh0sts

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    yeah, don't wait too long :p
     
  14. D2 Ultima

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    Well the 970M is $450 and a 980M is $720 XD.

    But don't fool yourself, DDR4 is a flat downgrade rather than an upgrade now (especially for mobile market). The 4K screen and 990M or whatever will be a different story though I suppose; can't preduct what that will do. Up to you entirely though; the desktop CPU will indeed be better than your 4810MQ due to the basic speed alone and lack of optimus is always nice; can't deny that.
     
  15. thegh0sts

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    the 990m sounds good if true and compatible. :p
     
  16. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    how exactly is it a downgrade? it's faster and uses less power so increased battery life, plus the ability to have more ram. going beyond 32gb would be a lot easier with ddr4.
     
  17. octiceps

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    Because it has higher latency at the same frequencies as DDR3. The impact of reduced power consumption is minuscule in the real world.

    What do you do that requires 32+ GB?
     
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  18. D2 Ultima

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    ^ what he said
    Plus, it costs more.
     
  19. jeanjackstyle

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    Plus, not anybody need +32 gb in a laptop now, maybe in five years or so?
     
  20. D2 Ultima

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    Anybody who'd need over 32GB in a desktop would need it in a laptop... but the question is how many people REALLY need it. And the answer is not many.
     
  21. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    video editing. even with short few layered 1080p video, after effects eats up all 32gb pretty fast. if i had more, i could allocate more ram to other programs. plus my next set up i will be making the transition to 4k, so there's no telling how much more ram 4k video will eat up doing the same type of work that i do with 1080p
     
  22. D2 Ultima

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    Video
    You can give it, but it doesn't mean it benefits from. 32GB should be all you need, honestly.
     
  23. badiyee

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    Hi, sorry to ask what may seem to be a stupid question.

    If I have a intel i7-4710MQ with GTX980M (the mxm, not the soldered one) on my p150sm-a, would be wise to just use msi afterburner and tweak the values alone, or do i have to go all out with the modded bios, vbios, etc?

    currently i'm having the preconception that with my 180w powerbrick, I can do a +100/+100 (to core clock and memory clock) safely, and must stick to that. Or probably i'm not fully utilizing the power? I'm using the latest nvidia drivers. As far as I recall at one point I cannot move the slider on the MSI afterburner because they will revert after clicking apply.

    Or am I doing it entirely wrong, and entirely unsafe?
     
  24. D2 Ultima

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    You should definitely get the modified vBIOS for stability sake. I'd also recommend Prema's system BIOS just for control's sake.
     
  25. thegh0sts

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    get a 240w psu. that's pretty much a minimum. dell made that mistake for their R2s.
     
  26. badiyee

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    I'm a little worried about warranty.

    Hmm.. Might as well go all out with a 330W (the ones for the P7xxZM?) if it actually fits?
     
  27. D2 Ultima

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    Don't tell them XD.

    The vBIOS shouldn't break warranty. System BIOS... it shouldn't, especially if you don't say anything. As long as you don't brick the system somehow.

    Also, you can get a 240W to work, but you'd need to mod it to fit. 330W I don't think would work.
     
  28. badiyee

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    Wow, for the 240W brick to work it needs a mod? That's different from what my manufacturer/reseller told me. They say they can sell me one that will work just fine, assuming that they can renew their stocks (which they normally don't, since the manufacturer/reseller that I bought from is a small timer compared to other gargantuan Clevo resellers globally)
     
  29. octiceps

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    Then they lied. Clevo doesn't offer a higher than 180W brick that fits your P150SM-A. You need to use a Dell 240W or 330W with this converter.
     
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  30. thegh0sts

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    i was thinking of getting a dell 240w PSU and getting an adapter that converts the plug into the one that the clevo can take...that's before when i was deciding on a clevo or not.
     
  31. jaybee83

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    overclock in my sig on a hot summerday (35C ambient) im getting 78C max on my 980M running firestrike and valley at native 3K resolution and all options maxxed out (fans at max)

    this is the highest temp ive ever seen on my gpu, so i really cant complain :p
     
  32. D2 Ultima

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    Your laptop
    Cakefish's laptop
    I wonder why XD
     
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    Impressive. I'm around that, but ranges into low 80s. But with Witcher 3, I don't even want to know what the max temp is...
     
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    Not sure what you're trying to imply? Cakefish's laptop (P650SG) has two fans and three dedicated heatpipes. P750ZM has only two dedicated heatpipes for GPU and two shared with CPU. I see the P650SG having better cooling. ;)
     
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    *gives troll award*
     
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    Yeah, yeah I know, I know. 980M is old news. Long live King 980 for notebooks and all that.

    But, just wanted to say that my new 980M has the highest ASIC yet (compared to my previous two). Whether that means anything is yet to be determined. I've had this thing for over a month but haven't looked into overclocking. I think I will do soon.
    [​IMG]
     
  37. ssj92

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    My brother's AW17 780M has a 78.X% ASIC but can't overclock above 100mhz on stock volts, so ASIC doesn't always been better overclocking. ;)

    I've had 6X% ASIC cards overclock +250mhz and above so it can go either way.

    Can't wait to see how my dual 980Ms overclock.
     
  38. ryzeki

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    My ASICs are around 65 and 66% or so, and my best current clocks are +250 core and +400 memory, but my PSU is the one that can't take it hahaha. When I stop being poor by buying super expensive laptops, I can test with dual PSU.
     
  39. TomJGX

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    What's up? Got a new laptop again? Did you break the previous one?
     
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    Long story short (or as short as I can make it);

    First P651SG - destroyed by my own stupidity. Forgot to disconnect battery during display panel swap (tried to swap out the glossy 4K panel for a matte one instead) and fried the motherboard. May it R.I.P. I'm eternally regretful.

    Second P651SG - replacement for my poor manslaughter victim that I bought in the summer. Sent back to seller because they had shipped the wrong display panel inside (inferior to the one I was told would be included before purchasing).

    Third P651SG - my current one. Display of second P651SG could not be alerted (LVDS instead of eDP) so seller offered me discounted upgrade to 4K model in new chassis (carrying over existing internals from second laptop). I accepted. Delivered last month but I've yet to explore the overclock potential of the GPU/CPU/RAM :)

    Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk
     
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    ASIC doesn't mean squat for overclocking at the end of the day. I've got a 77.6 ASIC 980ti and can only get about 1530 on the core which is pretty much the going average.
     
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    Lol 1530 on a 980ti is not average
     
  43. TBoneSan

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    That's at the limit though. 1470-1550 seems to be around the average I've found.
     
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    Dude, you have a good 980ti. That's where my 980s top at.
     
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    Perhaps. I should have been more clear in my previous post. I'm saying that those clocks on there own have little to do with my ASIC quality. There's a lot of other people with far less that can still achieve similar overclocks.
     
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    asic has more to do with how much voltage a gpu core needs at given clocks. so best case scenario, a high asic gpu would run cooler at specific clock rates and would thus give u a larger thermal headroom for overclocking. sadly, its by no means a guarrantee for good overclocking potential. basically, ull need to have both a good overclocker AND a high asic value in order to go all out :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Card doesn't need more power or anything? Do you have one of the ones with the two 8-pin + one 6-pin connectors with a custom vBIOS to bump power limit and keep voltage constant?

    I always wanted to know if those really made much difference without using LN2
     
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    1530Mhz is pretty good if it was on air.

    My Titan X was able to do 1521/8100 on air at best.
     
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    It just has the standard 6 and 8 pin power. Yeah, using a custom vbios. The standard vbios got me to 1480 on stock volts all the same as a my custom vbios...but the custom vbios also removed the goofy clock/volt throttling we've grown to hate.
    For 1530 I have to increase the voltage. That's my limit no matter how many more volts I smash through. It's interesting how little the it overclocks once the default voltage is reached.
     
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    GM200 doesn't like volts unless your using LN2. Even on water it barely clocks better than air even with volts.
     
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