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    BESt gaming 14 inch notebook

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by gianefiasco, Feb 1, 2006.

  1. gianefiasco

    gianefiasco Notebook Guru

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    Price is no object here. Im interested what the top tier gaming 14 inch notebook will look like ...and whether or not I should just get a 15.4 with a bit more power.

    I want something very mobile but also relativelyt powerful for gaming.

    also if anyone knows : how does an ATI 9800 pro 128 mb (my PC card) compare to say an ATIx700 or a geforce 6600?
     
  2. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The Mobility Radeon X700 should be about the speed of a 9800PRO, give or take. The X700 will perform better in the latest games. The GeForce Go6600 is about the same speed as an X700, very little difference between the two.

    I have a 256MB 9800XT in my desktop - OC'ed, my 256MB Mobility X700 matches it. :)

    Of course, you aren't going to get that in a 14" or less size.

    Price no object? Awesome. Check out the Sony SZ - has a GeForce Go7400, which is a step under an X700.
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2706
     
  3. gianefiasco

    gianefiasco Notebook Guru

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    YEAH i was looking at the Sz very closely and have my fingers crossed that it will come to canada.

    But since I have your attention do you think the SZ is worth the money or should I just cave in and buy a 15.4 i8nch? I mean whats the lightest 15.4 inch out there?
     
  4. yomister

    yomister Notebook Evangelist

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    aspire 55xx/travelmate 32xx, THE most powerful graphics you'll get: ATI X700

    Too bad its only available in asia/europe
     
  5. gianefiasco

    gianefiasco Notebook Guru

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    well what about the acer AS5672WLMi-XPH.

    its 15.4. duo 1.66, and radeon x1400
     
  6. yomister

    yomister Notebook Evangelist

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    x1400 is compariable to the x600

    Can wait till the 5500 get refreshed with the x1600... *drools*
     
  7. gianefiasco

    gianefiasco Notebook Guru

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    dammit so the x700 is the superior card by alot then im guessing?
     
  8. yomister

    yomister Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah, the x700 is much better then the x600, but im not sure by how much. There are a lot of benchmarks available, im sure you'll find some if you search the forum.
     
  9. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    Well, I thought I'd throw something in here. The MPC TransPort T3100 and X3100 are 14.1s and can be equipted with the X700 with 128 VR. I'll warn you, I know zero about MPC. It looks a bit over priced for what it is though. 'Leased in my opinion.
     
  10. gianefiasco

    gianefiasco Notebook Guru

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    hmmm i never heard of them but Ill check it out thank you!
     
  11. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The X700 is 1.5-2x faster than the X600, and the difference is especially prominent when it comes to the latest games. The X700 is capable of much higher settings and resolutions.

    If you can move to 15.4", you can get a lot more power. In that Acer, it has an X1400, about the same speed as the Go7400 in the Sony SZ. If you are going 15.4", I would go for an X1600 or X700.

    Have you checked out the Asus V6VA? It's gorgeous.
     
  12. gianefiasco

    gianefiasco Notebook Guru

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    yeah im actually looking at that one....its only about 200 dollars more canadian, but im wondering if portability will be an issue for me? and also the cost.

    my main problem is I dont wanna forsake portability for gaming, BUT I dont want a machine im not gonna be able to game with on my occasional breaks from schooling. *sigh*
     
  13. kreidel

    kreidel Notebook Evangelist

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    I have never heard of these laptops before? The one you can configure with a ATI Mobility X700 w/256MB. That sounds insane!!! Anyone know anything about these please post.
     
  14. gianefiasco

    gianefiasco Notebook Guru

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    I looked them up and they do come with great grphics cards like he stated, I think the major tradeoff is that these computers are hevay and bulkier then your other 14 inchers.
     
  15. dizzyegg

    dizzyegg Notebook Consultant

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    whats the best GPU avaliable in a 15" laptop?
     
  16. NissanSupraGTR

    NissanSupraGTR Notebook Evangelist

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    I think the w3j's the best one. It has the x1600, looks **** sexy, and has good build quality (from what I've read). Price is the only downside, but since its not a factor for you, it should be perfect. They recently refreshed it (1 gig ram in one dimm instead of 2 and t2500 instead of t2400) so now's the bst time to get it.
     
  17. Final_Spirit

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    I'd say the Asus w3j is the best 14" notebook for gaming. Equipped with an ATI x1600 gpu, its the best gpu you can get for the size of the notebook.
     
  18. NissanSupraGTR

    NissanSupraGTR Notebook Evangelist

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    Looks like I beat ya to it :)

     
  19. dizzyegg

    dizzyegg Notebook Consultant

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    is the x1600 the best gpu avaliable in 15 inch too?
     
  20. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    There are 6800 Go's in 15.4", but thicker and heavier then most 17" laptops lol
     
  21. JackBauer

    JackBauer Notebook Deity

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    Another vote for the W3J. You get the X1600 + Asus quality in a 14" notebook that's built nearly as well as my V6Va.
     
  22. anubissx

    anubissx Notebook Consultant

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    Wait a sec, I think you should also look at the baby the ASUS A8jm with 512MB 7600. I know some peoples here said 512MB is a waste but the more the better right? Plus the price is cheaper than W3j and it have same spec at W3j with better interface and poorer style
    Think about it
     
  23. Jaymz

    Jaymz Notebook Evangelist

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    i know your post was a year ago.. but now there's a younger sibling in the Asus family: A8Js with a 7700/512Mb .. anyway, which other lappy beats this Asus ? :rolleyes:
    and what's with all this x3100 and Santa Rosa excitement? is it at least comparable with a 7400 shared memory ? :confused:
     
  24. Formula1freak

    Formula1freak Notebook Guru

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    I was about to mention the Asus A8js is the best 14.1" laptop on the market at the moments hand down, between its geforce 7700 512mb dedicated GPU , intel core 2 duo 2.0ghz, and upgradable to 2gigs of ram, you cant find a better laptop in a smaller package, check out the review here
     
  25. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    asus a8js is really the only 14 inch gaming notebook.

    There is also the compal hgl 30
    overseas there are the related models zepto znote 6214 and the benq joybook ( you can get this in canada)
    But all of those are one step behind the 7700 in the a8js.
     
  26. _radditz_

    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    why was this thread brought back from the dead?!?!?!?!?!?
     
  27. Thorne

    Thorne Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, isn't it obvious, someone had something to say considering the topic? :)
     
  28. Jaymz

    Jaymz Notebook Evangelist

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    because there's a new Best Gaming 14" notebook ? aren't you interested in this ? :rolleyes:
     
  29. RichBaines

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    Well im pretty sure that I know THE most powerful 14.1 / 15" notebook from the 9th of May.

    Zepto Znote 6224W/6324W - 14.1", 8600
    Zepto Znote 6625W - 15", 8600

    Quote from ZeptoUK on this site:

    I can exclusively reveal that the NEW z-note 6625WD with the santa rosa processor will be available through Zepto`s Uk website on the 9th of may. I cannot give you any exact pricing information as yet. It will be available in 14"(6224,6324) and 15.4" with the Nvidea 8600.
     
  30. shaheenarshan

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    anoter vote from me to te asus a8js
    im sure its a deal ard to resist for many
    14 inch screen
    7700 512 mb
    2gb of ram
    quite a gamers notebook if i aint mistaken
     
  31. ronkotus

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    It certainly seems so. A quick review of Znote 6224W.
     
  32. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    Currently, the Asus A8Js is the most powerful 14.1" gaming notebook. The only problem with the A8Js is that it scratches easily, and its battery life is rather subpar (around 2-2.5 hours).

    Asus will refresh the A8 series very quickly with the release of Santa Rosa. Low end A8's (the A8Sc) will carry the Geforce Go 8400 graphics card. Higher end versions expected by June will carry the Geforce Go 8600.

    Asus is also updating the chassis to make the A8 stronger, and also give it a swivel webcam and make it more aesthetically pleasing. It'll be called the F8 and will be available in August.
     
  33. shaheenarshan

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    well thats good to know acctually since ill be purchasing one in october
    but what nags me is that the 8600 is kinda crippled as compared to the 8800 if im not mistaken
     
  34. mujtaba

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    My concern about the Zepto is the heat.I don't think I'm going to buy another 14" with such a powerful GPU.
     
  35. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    Meh, don't expect anyone to cram a Go 8800 into a 15.4" laptop without having the laptop melt a few months later :) The Go 8600 will be no Go 8800, but it'll still be pretty powerful ... if what we've seen from desktops applies to Nvidia's Geforce Go 8 mobile lineup, the 8600 will come pretty close to the Go 7900GS in benchmarks but lag slightly behind in FPS.

    Considering the Go 7900GS is almost twice as powerful as the Go 7600 or X1600, that's quite an improvement.
     
  36. stamar

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    my a8js never gets hot. Its actually its most amazing feature. gaming for 6 hours straight it never gets hot.
     
  37. Jaymz

    Jaymz Notebook Evangelist

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    so what is 8400 then comparable to ? 7600 or even 7700 ? :confused:
     
  38. mujtaba

    mujtaba ZzzZzz Super Moderator

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    It depends.We can't tell.They might choose to cripple the GPU so we can't really tell now
     
  39. shaheenarshan

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    FREN i assume it is an improvement
    but in that case we wouldnt be seeing 8800s in laptops soon until unless they can reduce power consumption and provide better cooling
     
  40. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    I assume asus will have something like an 8700 go for just their machines.


    I dont have even an inkling that they will but in 2006 a large percentage of their sales were the a8js and the g1.


    If those machines didnt have a better gpu than their competitors I dont think they would have sold so much.
     
  41. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    We don't really know, because no benchmarks have been leaked for the 8400. There's also no desktop version of the 8400 that we can compare the laptop one to (for instance, the desktop 8600GTS is related to the Go 8600GT that Nvidia is releasing soon, but there will be no desktop 8400GT for a while). I don't think the performance will be exactly on-point with the Go 7600; I think the Go 7600 will be more powerful. I'd expect the Go 8400 to fall somewhere halfway between the Go 7400 and Go 7600, in all honesty, but as mujtaba said, we won't know until one actually comes out.

    Oh yes, I totally agree. But, Nvidia will release the Go 8700 when ... October? November? Seems like Asus will have to do with the Go 8600 for now.
     
  42. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    um

    if the 8600 comes in different flavors...
    which i think it does I think the 8600 gt in the asus c90 is different than the 8600 in the zepto znote.

    then asus machines will come out that have exclusive use of the 8600 gt for a certain amount of time...

    Possibly even the same models like an a8js and a g1. But behind these first machines obviously. Maybe october or september is a better time.

    The 7700 is a lot like a 7600 gt its just a naming difference.
     
  43. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The best gaming 14" notebook would have to be one with an Nvidia 7700 or next best an ATI X1700.
     
  44. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    If you mean the 8600GT, then sure. Asus is doing it, but we still haven't seen any press releases of Santa Rosa notebooks from Alienware, Sony (remember their AR series only carried the 7600GT?), Compal, etc. about their higher-end models that support better video cards.

    I also think the G1 is scheduled to have the upgrade to the Go 8600GT, not the regular 8600, in the first wave of Asus refreshes. I think you can pick one up by June.
     
  45. shaheenarshan

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    so in short asus wont be providing the best in its laptops as soon as santa rosa its the shelves
    guess well have o wait qite a bit till they refresh their series
    hopefully along with an chassis improvement
     
  46. Jaymz

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    And it'll probably cost well over $2,000 as the current model is around $1,900
     
  47. shaheenarshan

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    it ranges from 1699-1799 actually
    i certainly hope its not above 2000
     
  48. Chris27

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    what are the chances that the Asus v2je refresh will come with an 8600 and that they will add the hotswappable bay that it was originally intended to have?
     
  49. stamar

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    A ha well heres whats going on here, where asus can always beat alienware or dell or uniwill or whatever.

    Youll notice that the 7600 go came out in 5 different varieties last year if u include 7700 go

    Asus is the manufacturer of the gpu for nvidia, they make that part for all laptops, acer alienware etc. Its not possible for alienware to beat asus own brand bringing it to market on this part because it has to leave asusteks factory first. It says asus right on the gpu

    Just like saphire makes the x1600 or msi makes the x2600 asus makes the 7600 go

    I mean youre talking about upcoming 8600 go models, but asus has it for sale right now, you can buy an asus laptop with the 8600 go right now, today, and the gt. In general they should be the first to market with every variety thats going to come out and possibly exclusive to market with one or two as well
     
  50. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    0.00001% that both will be implemented.

    The refresh will without a doubt have a Geforce Go 8400 (or the Radeon 2400 if ATI cards come out prior to the V2 refresh). It's a business laptop, so it's oriented to battery life, so the Go 8600 would be out of place (just like Asus didn't put the 7600 into the V2Je).

    Hot swappable is a possibility, Asus hasn't really given us any reason why they didn't include it with V2 release when they said they would.
     
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