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    BF3 - No Steam release?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Pluberus, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Pluberus

    Pluberus Notebook Evangelist

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    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    Still will buy it, but from Retail even though all copy will force to buy from Origin.

    Whatever it suck, but why sacrifice your happiness? I too hate buying game that not on steam ugh.
     
  3. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Getting a retail copy. I don't want to support EA with it's "exclusively on Origin" idea. Hopefully they only make half the money when I purchase retail. Honestly, I am now almost planning on buying MW3 just to ensure it beats out EA and this pathetic idea.
     
  4. Prydeless

    Prydeless Stupid is

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    Pre-ordered months ago when it popped up on Amazon. I don't see the problem with buying retail though since people bought Starcraft II which wasn't on Steam and neither will Diablo III from the looks of it. BF3 will still be available on D2D if you're dead set on only Steam as your only third party software. Even then I don't see the issue if Origin won't require itself to be always on like Steam.
     
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    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    Is there any special or limited edition? I want myself all 4 classes action figures kind of like what they did for Halo reach. I have never ever bought a limited or special edition of any kind of game and I been gaming for more than a decade.
     
  6. Tyo

    Tyo Notebook Deity

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    I will buy retail and won't support Origin.
     
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    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    LOL are you sure you can buy from D2D and it has a code for Steam? Seem like EA is doing everything it can not to let this game be on Steam.
     
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    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    I worry that no matter where you get it from (retail or not) it still must be play on the origin network, that what I'm afraid off. If that the case, I won't be buying since I will have GW2 and Skyrim to keep me occupy for a long time, and by then BF3 will be like $20 bucks and maybe $8 bucks with next year Steam summer sale :D
     
  9. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    I will buy BF3 and play single player only; as I do with most games
     
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    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    I don't understand y...?
     
  11. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    I play the single player portion of most games too. Only a few that I actually get involved with multiplayer. For me most multiplayer games are for crap anyhow. Fun for an hour but tiresome after that.
     
  12. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    I don't get the fanboyism going on over steam. I like steam as much as the next guy, but you guys are taking it to a whole new level. You really are going to turn down this game because of it not being on steam? Buy a subpar rediculously repeated game out of spite? Whoever said yes to those questions, Glad that you guys won't be on BF3 stick to CoD I will be flying Jets. You can also tell who has never used Origin because all it really is EADM just updated to give you an overlay and chat features if you decide you want to use it like steam you can. It does not need to be running to play a game, and you are going to have to login to the EA network not the "Origin network".

    Also, for the fanboys it is most likely Steams fault that they will not have BF3 just look at what happened with Crysis 2. That was not EA's decision it was Steams due to their rules on Exclusivity. If you read the article it is listed for sale on over 100 online vendors so I don't get the "Exclusively on Origin" argument either.
     
  13. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    IMO, it was both companies being stubborn and playing the issue. Steam wants certain rules and their way, and EA probably wanted an excuse to not sale on Steam; boosting the marketing and publicity of Origin. So they're both to blame, or not blame :D

    Again, IMO.
     
  14. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You just answered your own question for why I don't play multiplayer unless it's with my close friends.
     
  15. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    I will agree that it could be both parties being stubborn.
     
  16. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    there is already a thread on this...
     
  17. redrazor11

    redrazor11 Formerly waterwizard11

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    I don't care if it's on steam or not, but i'm certainly not shelling out 60 bucks for a retail copy.

    The reason I prefer steam is

    1) All my games live there
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    2)Unreal Deals on games during sale time. I will never buy another game full price as long as steam exists.
     
  18. Gulkor

    Gulkor Notebook Consultant

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    I am buying BF3 if i have to go to the store and buy retail or not, it looks like a sweet game, and i play bfbc2 so i know bf3 will be worth it.
     
  19. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    Playing battlecorridor makes me not want to get BF3...
     
  20. kurtcocaine

    kurtcocaine Notebook Evangelist

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    Same here for me.. I just hope the single-player campaign is a bit long..
     
  21. _Cheesy_

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    BUT BUT BUT....NOT EVEN Guild Wars 2????????????????????
     
  22. roliath

    roliath Notebook Consultant

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    amen man, i'm stick of these threads and people just being misinformed on how origin works. like having origin installed is going to hose your system, 8gb is stupid cheap.
     
  23. redrazor11

    redrazor11 Formerly waterwizard11

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    Too many times have I Pre-Ordered a game for 60 bucks, and then ta month later I see it on steam for 45.99 or some crap like that.

    Not to mention, all of the bugs/patches/glitches/server overload headache from the initial release.

    I'd rather not start playing a game until they get all the exploits and bugs worked out.
     
  24. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    The truth of it is that EA thinks they have the cachet to burn Steam to the ground with Origin by shifting their titles to it. What's probably going to happen is the marketplace will become fragmented and end up driving some users away from the PC platform.

    A poor business decision by a company known for making poor business decisions.

    I agree that the software/network is not that big of a problem, it's just that these kinds of decisions are stupid and irritating.
     
  25. nikolai090

    nikolai090 Notebook Evangelist

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    Damn, I really don't want to install another client to my PC, its annoying. I'll get it on origin if they give lower price than retail. And not just 5$ discount, I want above 10 at least.
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    Rest assured, they won't.
     
  27. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    I don't think that EA wants to burn steam to the ground by revamping EA Download Manager into what is now Origins. I do believe that it could be both companies having issues with the other, Steams Exclusivity rules and EA wanting Origin to become more popular. I doubt that EA will completely knock out the largest Digital distributor of PC games. That would indeed be a horrible business decision.
     
  28. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    I really do think EA wants to become the largest digital distributor. That is a totally EA move. I also think it has absolutely no chance of happening.
     
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    Steam has such a strong foothold on digital distribution, it'd be near impossible to get people to use there service primarily. Only EA games I buy are C&C and Battlefield stuff, and even C&C the crap they've shoveled out since C&C 3 I don't even bother any more.
     
  30. hakira

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    It's not about knocking steam out, that can't realistically be done now... they want a piece of the online pie. Problem is, like others have said, it's EA - they will find a way to do it wrong. An example would be punkbuster for bfbc2: it is fairly intrusive (a process that runs that detects and records all activity started by programs, and continues to run after the game has been exited), it often misdetects and/or kicks legit players from games for "losing connection to the punkbuster server" AND it still fails to catch cheaters. All because EA is simply too lazy to come up with an anti-cheat system of their own to rival VAC (VAC isn't perfect at catching cheaters either but it is a hell of a lot less intrusive, and very rarely misdetects). It would be utterly hilarious if origin's overlay gets detected by punkbuster as a cheat, like steam's did for a while.

    Also I think what people are frustrated at is the friends list. If origins' or BF3s' friends list works anything like bfbc2s', we're all in for a headache. And if you want to keep your steam friends list, a major draw for steam, you'll need to add bf3 under nonsteam games and run it via steam, essentially defeating the purpose of origin.
     
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    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Exactly, that is why I don't think EA is the Dr. Evil of the Digital Distribution world. :D
     
  32. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    they are still making C&C? good lord! stopped at generals, since it was good to pawn my friends in it

    For me I dont have a choice, I must submit to origin, the other only option is to pirate the thing, they dont distribute physical copies here.
     
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    Hey Mr. MM glad you are going to be flying jets with me!
     
  34. tetutato

    tetutato NBR Troll

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    Agreed that EA is evil but it's not so bad when it comes to regional restriction stuff. While steam put regional restriction on most of their games, origin is always region-free.

    PS: I'll be selling BF3 EA Origin Digital Download Code (Scanned CD Key) for about $35 here on NBR when the game releases in the marketplace section. Had it approved by the mods. :)
     
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    I gotta break my joystick out for BF3 though. I was pretty decent chopper pilot in BF2, but didn't use it for BFBC2, and I suck with mouse and keyboard. I intend on becoming a master pilot with BF3.
     
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    I gotta get a new one, sadly my joystick broke. Any recommendations?

    I was using my Xbox 360 controller to fly in BFBC2 because I was terribad with the keyboard. lol
     
  37. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Sure thing! just let me get my egpu setup on thunderbolt, than I will be flying like a mad man! mostly lie a mad man since I never learned to fly anything on the BF series :)

    I would go for any of the saitek joysticks
     
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    I dunno, I use my trusty old Microsoft Sidewinder Pro. Too bad Microsoft stopped making those things years ago. So solid and great control, and never break. Mine is probably ten years old at least.
     
  39. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Being on Steam or not is not that big of a factor for me personally.
    And to the people commenting on only playing the singleplayer of BF3, the only reason why it features a singleplayer part is because of Call of Duty and BF: Bad Company.
    The only singleplayer on BF2 was smaller versions of the online maps with bots.
    (Not that its a bad thing. :D )

    Also check this out. :3

    [​IMG]
     
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    Man I was just checking out the X65-f combat control system from Saitek. It is amazing may get that.
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    Saitek makes pretty good sticks. I would get the X65 if I had 400 bones to drop.
     
  42. alexUW

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    If it didn't come with a single player, I wouldn't buy it. I'm not saying I'm playing SP because I love Steam and EA sucks; I only play SP mode only.

    If it was only multiplayer, I would consider it an unfinished game as everything nowadays has a SP component. I really hope the SP isn't an after thought to the game, that would make it suck.
     
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    Honestly, it looks like they put a lot of effort into the single player. So we just gotta wait and see if it will be epic or not.
     
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    From the videos and interviews it sounds like they're putting some significant effort into the single player game. And things will be different between the single player and multiplayer too.
     
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    Good to know :D
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    There was a weird phase where MP-only games were popular, probably because they were easy to make. Now it seems that cinematic storylines are back.

    I remember buying Tribes 2 because it said there was a campaign and installing it to find 5 scripted missions :(
     
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    For as long as i can remember Battlefield has been a multiplyer focused series.
    They added singleplayer when they released Bad Company 1 for Xbox 360 and PS3.
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    I am toats gonna be flying some jets/helicopters. I love the concept of the BF franchise. 2142 was probably my favorite, ideawise, but the execution wasn't there. Still, I might fire it up this weekend.
     
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    Origin is largely an alien concept to many PC gamers. So, naturally, it isn't particularly well-liked.

    But EA can easily remedy this and its other digital distribution woes -- all they have to do is appeal to customers' wallets (the precise reason why Steam is currently so successful).

    How can they do this? Simple. Release titles on Origin, Steam, and every other service, but slash the prices on Origin. If BF3 was released on the same day for $59.99 on Steam and $29.99 on Origin, it's obvious where the sales would go. Wallet-grubbers would be happy. Steam fanatics would be (somewhat) happy. Releasing a day early on Origin accomplishes nothing and offering exclusive DLC over Origin just pisses people off. By offering an exclusive low price though, EA would ensure that no one would have any real grounds for complaint. I bet many people would quickly forget their allegiance to Steam and flock over to Origin for their EA fix. It would only take a few cycles of this price undercutting for EA to establish a stable, loyal, self-sustaining customer base on the PC the way Steam, Xbox Live, and PSN already have.

    Economics -- it's foolproof!

    (Of course, I wouldn't expect EA to actually do this. It IS EA after all.)
     
  50. Pluberus

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    @Tthursday - That is an excellent idea. I'd still buy it from Steam though. :D
     
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