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    Batman Arkham City Discussion

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Zymphad, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. hockeymass

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    The second one isn't going to make a ton of sense without the first one.
     
    hockeymass, Nov 25, 2011
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    I really don't mind. Just as long as it as good graphics and I can run around freely then I'm all good :)
     
    mrcarter, Nov 25, 2011
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    How do you change the graphic's settings? I did initially when setting up the game (put everything on max) and the FPS drop too low and need to adjust. Cannot seem to find a menu for graphic settings beyond "brightness and invert controls".

    Nevermind figured it out:

    Find the BMlauncher.exe file in the Batman AA directory and launch the launcher and access the settings.

    Why this is not available at the start screen if not in game is beyond me but the developers are having much bigger problems with DX 11 and DRM...
     
    Dr. J, Nov 26, 2011
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  4. hockeymass

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    This game is brilliant, GFWL issues aside.

    I love watching the inmates run around, terrified, while I pick them off one by one.
     
    hockeymass, Nov 27, 2011
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  5. Vitor711

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    Anyone know if you can specify individual physx features via the .ini or the like? My GPU hates the particle effects, but volumetric smoke, and interactive paper aren't a problem in the built in benchmark. But, as there's only high and low settings, I can't seem to pick and choose.
     
    Vitor711, Nov 27, 2011
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  6. ViciousXUSMC

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    30+ GB Installer o_O
     
    ViciousXUSMC, Nov 27, 2011
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  7. tyranus7

    tyranus7 Notebook Evangelist

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    What's wrong with this game and physX?? If physx if off I get 70fps avarage, and if I set physx at medium I get 30 fps av. on high 24 fps.. That's insane... I was getting around 50 fps on Arkham Asylum with physx on high. :(
     
    tyranus7, Nov 28, 2011
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  8. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Possibly Nvidia gimped on purpose. It would not be the first time.

    They did it with Mirrors Edge and they pulled a on purpose gimp on Assassins Creed even though it was not Phisx related.

    That way when they post pretty bar graphs comparing Nvidia w/ Phisx vs AMD people thing the Nvidia cards are way stronger when if on an even playing field they are not.

    Any modern quad core cpu can handle the phisix easy if it was implemented as so, but they purposly do this horrible inefficient coding to force use of Nvidia stuff.

    It could just be a bug as well I suppose, it is a new game. Time will tell.
     
    ViciousXUSMC, Nov 28, 2011
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  9. Zymphad

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    PhysX probably more intense. But Rocksteady didn't use the latest SDK which has improved multi-threading for PhysX so it's still junk for modern hardware.
     
    Zymphad, Nov 28, 2011
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  10. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    DEagleson, Nov 28, 2011
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  11. ArabellaUK

    ArabellaUK Notebook Consultant

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    IN case nobody has responded on this - I run it with 460m and I think the benchmark was average 38
     
    ArabellaUK, Nov 28, 2011
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  12. ArabellaUK

    ArabellaUK Notebook Consultant

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    Theres a statement on the official forums about DX11 problems, that could be your issue

    Runs fine for me once I disable all the stuff.

    A
     
    ArabellaUK, Nov 28, 2011
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  13. LaptopNut

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    After playing for longer I notice how much the new moves and flexibility in combat really makes a difference.

    Find yourself surrounded by too many thugs, particularly armed ones, drop a smoke bomb and use sonar vision to take them out or escape, grab enemies from ledges, disarm them with your batclaw, dodge knife attacks (if timed correctly), take out two at once, catch thrown objects and return the favour and so much more.

    I love how the sonar vision sounds and looks like the one in the Dark Knight movie (where he used all of the mobile phones as sonar mapping devices). In Arkham Asylum you felt like Batman, in Arkham City, you are Batman...
     
    LaptopNut, Nov 28, 2011
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  14. Getawayfrommelucas

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    So I bought this game last week when it was on sale for 25 bucks and I was wondering, did they add anything to PC besides PhysX
     
    Getawayfrommelucas, Nov 28, 2011
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  15. DEagleson

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    They did some Dx11 stuff but its underperforming when you enable it.
    Its not like BF3 where they made the game in Dx11 with Dx10 to fall back too.
     
    DEagleson, Nov 28, 2011
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  16. Dynamo44

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    Anyone else playing using a GTX 560M? If so, what settings would you recommend? Thanks!
     
    Dynamo44, Nov 28, 2011
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  17. bgstan

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    I got same specs as you. Plays fine with these settings.

    1080p res
    v sync = yes
    AA = 32x CSAA
    Dx11 = off
    Tessellation = off
    Detail level = very high
    Physx = off
     
    bgstan, Nov 28, 2011
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  18. Getawayfrommelucas

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    Ah well, at least it'll be a great game
     
    Getawayfrommelucas, Nov 28, 2011
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  19. Dynamo44

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    Ah, PhysX kills too much performance on the rig?

    :(
     
    Dynamo44, Nov 28, 2011
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  20. Zymphad

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    Just disable hardware PhysX. Just run PhysX on CPU. Rocksteady claims that PhysX effects are no different whether it's on CPU or GPU.
     
    Zymphad, Nov 28, 2011
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  21. LaptopNut

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    I get more consistent performance when I set Physx to use my CPU.
     
    LaptopNut, Nov 28, 2011
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  22. tyranus7

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    Well my cards aren't directX 11 capable, so I guess the game runs on DX9 by default. So I think the PhysX issue is not related to the DX11 problem. This game need a patch... Installed the last PhysX but it didn't help

    OK: a website already took note of the PhysX issue, here you can check what I am talking about:

    [​IMG]

    This one is a low resolution and AA off:

    [​IMG]

    You can read the full article here:

    http://www.dsogaming.com/news/want-to-play-batman-arkham-city-with-physx-enabled-get-ready-for-some-abysmal-framerates/
     
    tyranus7, Nov 28, 2011
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  23. johnnyman27

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    i run the game sliky smooth at constantly 60fps all ultra FXAA(low),stock speeds dx11 disabled cuz it is buggy as hell.very nice game,better than the first one!!
     
    johnnyman27, Nov 30, 2011
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  24. LaptopNut

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    The game is capped at 62 fps but for some reason the frame rate limit in my ini files were not always registering so I was getting uncapped frames every now and then and thought I was getting better performance because of this. I didn't know that all Unreal3 engine games had this cap.

    In the bmengine.ini file you will notice:

    bSmoothFrameRate=True
    MinSmoothedFrameRate=22
    MaxSmoothedFrameRate=62

    Uncapped my frame rate can go as high as 93 fps but I am fine with 60fps.

    Edit: Looks like a new patch has been released although it doesn't look like it is supposed to be avaliable officially yet.
     
    LaptopNut, Nov 30, 2011
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  25. hockeymass

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    I finished the main story (extremely good) but I feel like there's soooo much more to do in this game. The setting is awesome and the combat is fun. The only thing I don't like is the bros with stun sticks. The stun sticks are really hard to see and in a group it's really hard to attack them properly. Perhaps I really should play with a controller.

    Beating the hell out of the dudes with body armor is hilarious, though.
     
    hockeymass, Nov 30, 2011
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  26. trinox

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    I get slight lag when i spin my camera 360 when the game loads but after that it doesnt lag.. does anyone get this or know how to fix it?
     
    trinox, Dec 1, 2011
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  27. trvelbug

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    i just bought the retail version of the game. problem is ive already taken out my dvd player and i dont want to bring it along all the time just to play the game.
    will this game install on steam? ie will my activation code work on steam and make it a steam game?
     
    trvelbug, Dec 8, 2011
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  28. djboz

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    The retail version requires the DVD in the drive to work, and the the retail version can not be activated on Steam. Sucks. Big time. I cant even remember the last game I purchased that needed the CD / DVD in the drive.

    Has anyone tried the new patch with DX11? I managed to install it last night, but did not have time to test / play with it.

    Boz
     
    djboz, Dec 8, 2011
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  29. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    As long as GFWL still rely on having a DVD inserted to launch a game it will never beat Steam or Origin.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
     
    DEagleson, Dec 8, 2011
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    i wouldve bought it from steam but it isnt available in my region yet so i opted for retail, not knowing about this dvd foolishness.

    how do i even download the patch for the retail version?
     
    trvelbug, Dec 8, 2011
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  31. LaptopNut

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    The new patch has decreased my DX9 / DX11 performance and has introduced stuttering that I never used to have. Good stuff! I will certainly think twice about buying crap like this next time, that's for sure.
     
    LaptopNut, Dec 8, 2011
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  32. trvelbug

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    ok i see, gfwl updates the game, but with laptopnuts reply i just declined the update.

    i dont know but i remember arkham asylum to be much more cohesive and intense, at least in the first hour...
     
    trvelbug, Dec 8, 2011
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    My laptop runs it on Max settings, AA enabled, 16x AF @720p on my HDTV FLAWLESSLY.

    Fluid gameplay and some of the best visuals I have ever seen.

    Been playing for 2 hours last night and LOVE the game, a worthy successor to the great Arkham Asylum.

    Love how they added characters and new costumes, only played as Batman and Catwoman so far but I see Robin and Nightwing too.
     
    andros_forever, Dec 8, 2011
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  34. hockeymass

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    That's because Arkham Asylum isn't as big a game. AC is more of a sandbox type of game, you can follow the main story or you can do a ton of side missions.
     
    hockeymass, Dec 8, 2011
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  35. DEagleson

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    The Elder Scrolls: Batman? :D
    I did test it out briefly on Xbox 360.
    Catwoman be stalking me.
     
    DEagleson, Dec 8, 2011
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  36. Getawayfrommelucas

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    Same setup/Same boat as you. I logged on briefly last night to apply the patch and see how much progress has been made...not a whole lot ;x
     
    Getawayfrommelucas, Dec 8, 2011
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  37. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Yup same here as Laptopnut and getawayfrommelucas. DX 11 performance is still bad and DX 9 is now suffering never dipped below 59 on vsync before, now it is constantly dropping to the 30's.

    Edit: See bottom post.
     
    Mechanized Menace, Dec 8, 2011
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  38. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Ok, DX 9 is working now after I reinstalled the game. DX11 is still broken

    DX11

    DX9

     
    Mechanized Menace, Dec 8, 2011
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  39. bgstan

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    With Physx on I use these settings and it runs fine.

    1080p res
    v sync = yes
    AA = FXAA (high)
    Dx11 = off
    Tessellation = off
    Detail = very high
    Everything = yes
    Physx = normal

    With the new patch not much difference in performance for me (fps wise). The game does load faster with the patch, that's about it.

    Beat the game on easy and it didn't unlock new game plus, so now I'm playing on hard. :)
     
    bgstan, Dec 8, 2011
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  40. trvelbug

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    what are you playing it on?
     
    trvelbug, Dec 8, 2011
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  41. bgstan

    bgstan Notebook Enthusiast

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    i7-2630 | 560M | 16GB 1333 Ram | Win 7 Home | 500gb HD | Sager NP 8170
     
    bgstan, Dec 8, 2011
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  42. reaversedge

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    i read somewhere that they used a downgraded version of physx sdk? its really strange that in B:AC the physx is awesome even without dx11 enabled, but once dx11 is enabled. its a low cap :( i used the unofficial patch, somehow it helped by giving less starting load times, the dx11 bug...hmm a little improvement..
     
    reaversedge, Dec 8, 2011
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  43. trvelbug

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    darnit, my dvd caddy seems to be acting up, windows just wont recognize it.
    well at least it installed the game, and i was able to play for an hour or so...
     
    trvelbug, Dec 8, 2011
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  44. trvelbug

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    are there challenge rooms like in aa?
     
    trvelbug, Dec 8, 2011
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  45. bgstan

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    Yes they are.
     
    bgstan, Dec 8, 2011
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  46. shinakuma9

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    :(

    I want a third game now. This gets you hooked so fast.
     
    shinakuma9, Dec 9, 2011
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  47. trvelbug

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    do i need to beat the game or solve a number of riddles for this?
     
    trvelbug, Dec 9, 2011
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  48. LaptopNut

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    I think you have to beat the game on normal to unlock that mode.
     
    LaptopNut, Dec 9, 2011
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  49. trvelbug

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    whats it supposed to unlock?
     
    trvelbug, Dec 9, 2011
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  50. andros_forever

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    Not if you have DLC's :D
     
    andros_forever, Dec 9, 2011
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