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    BattleField 4 Announced, But I'm still waiting for BF3

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Zymphad, Nov 16, 2011.

  1. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    Sorry to all the BF3 fans, but I personally feel I just have two copies of BC2. One with Jets, the other not.

    The maps are pretty much BC2 maps. I don't see any difference in squad play from BC2. There isn't any incentive in the game to play as a squad, people get far more rewards and perks for being #1 rambo than playing as a squad. The hit detection is still borked like BC2. The leveling, perks seem very COD to me.

    I have not played BF2, so was interested in what BF3 would be as DICE claimed it would be a PC focused successor to BF2.

    Well as I said, I'm still waiting for this BF3, but EA/DICE went ahead and announced BF4 development. Where is BF3?!?!? Shouldn't you develop BF3 first before going to BF4? Where is this PC focused BF2 successor? Cause I know I'm just playing a BC2 console port with jets right now.
     
  2. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    You can call it XQR if you want, doesn't bother me. I'm personally enjoying BF:XQR and I refuse to call it anything other than that. Of course, the entire point of a name is to distinguish between things just to have a system by which everyone knows what everyone else is talking about, but feel free to call it whatever. It's pretty trendy.

    I believe the quotation that bothered you is this: "There is going to be a Battlefield 4."

    Well, let me really mess with your head. This is my quote, but I guarantee it to be true:

    There will be a Battlefield 5.

    OMGOMGOMGOMGOMOGMOMGOMG (Sorry to have to ruin your week).
     
  3. GamingACU

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    lol...exactly why I didn't buy BF3 or MW3 this time around.

    Also XQR?
     
  4. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    Yeah BF:XQR. Apparently it's trendy to call it BF:BC3. I don't think that's going far enough.
     
  5. Zymphad

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    Yeah unfortunately EA also announced BF:BF3, so your XQR may work.

    Personally I call it, BF:BC2 Jets DLC, with an extra dose of console COD idiocy (Dumbest Perks...)
     
  6. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    It's a little wordy for a title.
     
  7. junglebungle

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    Whiners will always whine.
     
  8. oan001

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    Worst thread title.
     
  9. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    Seconded. .
     
  10. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    I love it.
     
  11. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    you also made the thread
     
  12. darkloki

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    Sniping is COMPLETELY different
     
  13. GamingACU

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    So what does XQR stand for?
     
  14. HTWingNut

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    This whole thread has confused me.
     
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    I agree with op, I am very disappointed on BF3. Actually prefer BF:BC2 to it.
     
  16. HTWingNut

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    I've been lambasted on several occasions to dare pointing out flaws and issues with the game, and my disappointment with it in general. So tread carefully, as you will be sliced, diced, cooked, and eaten.

    At this point it is what it is. EA/DICE have yet to release a client side patch, nor have they indicated what will be in the first patch. I actually got a response from a moderator at the Battelog forums saying he'd inform me of status, but haven't heard anything back. It's Bad Company 3, 2-1/2, whatever you want to call it.

    It can be fun. It's not what I was expecting as far as a Battlefield 2 successor. I'm just playing for fun and not worrying about all the hit detection problems or general game glitches. I just don't see it having the same staying power as BF2, not even close.
     
  17. Geekz

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    Bf3 has much better graphics, sniping is much better compared to bfbc2, jets/copters are handled better, less rubber banding and bugs than bfbc2 launch.

    but somehow something is lacking, I enjoyed playing bfbc2 more than BF 3.
     
  18. philiphan

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    Game's been working out great for me. I prefer this to BC2 but I don't really agree to DICE calling it BF3. More of a hybrid + (sadly) console port.

    Still worth the money imo if you have a decent GPU to enjoy all the eye candy it has to offer. While it's not what a BF2 veteran might have expected, it's still worth the money though in my opinion.

    So please everyone stop ranting about how you've been disappointed by the game or whatnot. I mean it's

    a) not going to change anything
    b) annoying for the people reading it for the 103249th time
    c) not going to help you in any way either.

    YES YOU ARE NOT ALONE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF OTHER PLAYERS disappointed in this game but hey, if you don't like it, just ask for a refund or don't play it.
     
  19. junglebungle

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    Haters just make me love the game even more.
     
  20. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    Don't worry, I won't slice / dice / cook / eat you *turns on stovetop*

    I'm with you. I think some people got the raw end of the stick and are having issues with their ISP or something. It's like we aren't all playing the same game.
     
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    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    BF:XQR is what they should have called the game they released. It obviously isn't worthy of the sacred title "BF3", nor is it worthy of the title "BF:BC3". Fans have more authority to select the title than the developers, (obviously), so we should call it BF:XQR.

    I'm being facetious.
     
  22. HTWingNut

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    I don't think he knows what XQR means as in acronym. I don't either, although I have an idea (piece of cow dung?)
     
  23. Prydeless

    Prydeless Stupid is

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    I agree this is more a hybrid, but it's a little fun calling it Bad Company 3 and I'm still enjoying the game (when I don't experience a crash, stuck at loading/blackscreen, disconnects when I'm doing good) and it's a whole lot better than BC2 with regards to destruction, vehicles, and map size.

    a) It won't change anything on this site. Maybe if it was posted elsewhere and not as a rant.
    b) Could've just ignored it after reading the thread title. :p
    c) It soothes the anger and/or ego! Anyway, it's going to be posted somewhere. Apparently you get banned from your Origin library if you don't say nice things on EA's forums.

    How would you go about getting a refund for it though in the US?
     
  24. @nthony

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    I think that's exactly it. BF fans knew "BF" as that PC-game with sprawling Battlefields, strategy, tactics, commanders, jets, multiple layers of combat on an expansive map. And then suddenly EA just iterates on their BC content and goes "welp we're gonna call this BF now".

    I wish EA talked in their own terms, or at least did a better job at translating "$$ sales %quarterly $$".
     
  25. GamingACU

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    This.

    All I could find was "Extended Quadratic Residue". I looked that up and it's a bit out of my league in the math department, so if it's a math joke I don't get it.
     
  26. Prydeless

    Prydeless Stupid is

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    I dunno how everyone binds it, but X is prone for me so XQR means prone spot reload! :D
     
  27. Mjolner

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    If anyone hasn't seen this article it is worth a read:
    GameSpy: BF3: Post-Launch Developer Q&A - Page 1

    Basically KMT says that BF3's core gameplay is perfect and the only issues are balance and stability issues. He also seems to think that they did indeed "focus on PC as the lead platform" because they forced us to use their "wonderful and innovative" battlelog feature, which doesn't have a working server browser and eats RAM like nobody's business.

    As per usual the interviewer asked softball questions and didn't call KMT out on anything he said. When KMT said that BF3 on PC was better because it had "64 player capability" the interviewer should have asked him why half the maps DON'T WORK WITH 64 PLAYERS and were CLEARLY designed for console numbers.

    I mean seriously, how does someone NOT as a dev they were thinking when they designed Operation Metro? THAT is a 64 player map? REALLY!?!?!
     
  28. Zymphad

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    I agree whole heartily. I remember with BC2 there were hacks floating around that did exactly what the IRNV scope does. So seeing in BF3 just makes me laugh. And then when seeing BF3 players use it, I just think s since I'm sure many of them were aware of people using that cheat with BC2 and not being happy about it.
     
  29. HTWingNut

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    @ Mjolner --

    Yeah I posted that at in the BF3 Discussion Thread as well. Such a crap interview. After seeing the first question I was like YES! Then it was just crap Q&A afterwards. Very political and soft responses. Not only 64-player maps, but the cluster of capture points, and all the choke points in so many maps.


    And regarding the IRNV. I use it. It's a tool they gave you and if others are gonna use it, I'm gonna use it too. It's cheese for sure, but no more so than lacing a Humvee with C4 and using it as a bomb, among many other cheese tactics.
     
  30. junglebungle

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    Despite it's flaws, come on, it looks beautiful at 1080p with ultra details running at 100fps, there isn't quite anything else like it right now, I prefer it to BF:BC2.

    I've not had one issue with the game since launch, I can't understand how so many people are having so many problems with it.
     
  31. Mjolner

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    I sometimes use the IRNV, but I haven't been lately as I prefer more of a challenge. Then again, I am the guy running around with the Rex as my pistol when it quite honestly SUCKS in BF3 (I have 1400 kills with it in BC2 because it actually had power in that game). In BF3 it often takes 3 torso shots to kill at close range, but has a very slow fire rate. I also have been using the MP7 even though it appears to fire BBs and has a tragically small clip; I just like using "underdog" weapons.
     
  32. HTWingNut

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    I've been switching up weapons though to unlock accessories, but pull out the IRNV when our team is getting pwned. I like the shotgun but it's a mixed bag. Sometimes it takes up to 4 shots to kill someone even if they're very close to me, other times just one.
     
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    BC2 was the better and more fun game IMO. Sure BF3 is better graphically but graphics mean jack to me if the gameplay isn't as good. I found everything to be a step down from BC2 and lots of annoyances added in. The unlock system is absolutely terrible, they added really annoying mechanics and items like flashlights which somehow fully blind you in broad daylight, the destruction is nowhere near as good, the maps are crappier, the game doesn't feel nearly as good as BC2, BC2 had less annoyances, the knife sucks balls (BC2's knife was 100x worse than BC1's knife but I'd take it over BF3's anyday), it's just not the same.

    The very core game on the simplest level is BC2 but all the changes just make it not as good. I hate how your character feels in BF3, BC2 nailed that perfectly IMO. It seems like since BC1, DICE is hellbent on making your character more sluggish and weighty but BC2 had a great combo of 'weightiness' and smoothness. Now everything in the game has to be cinematic and have annoying animations like jumping or knifing or just getting up from prone (Prone needs to go away in BC3). They don't add to the realism for me, they're just annoying as hell.

    Hoping Bad Company 3 is just a better BC2 and not a reskinned BF3. BC2 had it's flaws like sniper shotguns, magnum ammo/body armor, the sniper class being way too overemphasized and the knife being outright broken sometimes but other than the shotty, it wasn't that bad at all. Here's hoping that BC3 is nothing like BF3.
     
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    I am really not sure what they could add in BC3 that wouldn't already be BF3! I don't think there will be a BC3. I think they just turned Battlefield into the new Bad Company.
     
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    I think the majority of people just wanted BF3 to be BF2 with all the flaws fixed and with better graphics, more maps and more guns. But instead they have some weird BF2/BC2 combo with some other crap thrown in. It doesn't work as well as either of those games. BF2 and BC2 are so different but they both do what they do really really well. DICE was trying to have the best of both worlds but it didn't work as well. It's not nearly as fun as either of those games. For BC3 I just want the feel and style of BC2 back, with much better destruction, lots more maps and weapon choices and to fix the problems that BC2 had. And...that's it. I don't care if the graphics are worse than BF3 and are on par with BC2. That's all you need to do and BC3 will be a great game.

    BF4 needs to be all about scale. There needs to be absolutely huge maps, more players, it needs to feel like a true BF. It just needs to be a bigger and better BF2.
     
  36. Flapo

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    well keep waiting... :) heres a cookie while u wait *give cookie